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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:20 PM Jan 2013

RNC: Obama’s Executive Actions A ‘Power Grab’

Source: TPM



PEMA LEVY 2:10 PM EST, WEDNESDAY JANUARY 16, 2013

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus rejected President Obama's executive actions on guns in a statement Wednesday, saying they "amount to an executive power grab."

"He paid lip service to our fundamental constitutional rights, but took actions that disregard the 2nd Amendment and the legislative process," Priebus said.

Here's the full statement on Obama's press conference:

“President Obama’s series of gun control measures amount to an executive power grab that may please his political base but will not solve the problems at hand. He paid lip service to our fundamental constitutional rights, but took actions that disregard the 2nd Amendment and the legislative process. Representative government is meant to give voice to the people; President Obama’s unilateral executive action ignores this principle,” said RNC Chairman Reince Priebus.

“Instead, we need to work together to find real solutions – many of which do not come from the federal government – that help protect our children and communities while also being firm in protecting Americans’ constitutional rights.”


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Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rnc-obamas-executive-actions-power-grab

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RNC: Obama’s Executive Actions A ‘Power Grab’ (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
Someone should ask him which ones he objects to. Renew Deal Jan 2013 #1
GOP,humanoid, whiner class. jambo101 Jan 2013 #17
What are they objecting to? Background checks for all? Mental health parity under the ACA? pnwmom Jan 2013 #2
The Republicans are or HAVE made this country the laughing stalk of the world liberal N proud Jan 2013 #3
Well they did it to themselves. They were the ones who courted the lunatic fringe as their base cstanleytech Jan 2013 #18
Really? Why? They don't do anything. bowens43 Jan 2013 #4
LOL, the last thing republicans want are mental health checks. n/t Bonhomme Richard Jan 2013 #5
bingo ! jlover70 Jan 2013 #21
So? -- R. Cheney. Isn't that what politics is about? nt bemildred Jan 2013 #6
Not to mention that precedent has been set. I have been researching this okaawhatever Jan 2013 #7
I've never been keen on government by Executive Order. . . Journeyman Jan 2013 #8
Scotus found in 1952 that executive orders were legal provided they okaawhatever Jan 2013 #9
WELL.........! orbitalman Jan 2013 #10
Onehandle: Gerrymandered House An Actual Power Grab. onehandle Jan 2013 #11
Boo effing hoo. Andy Borowitz's column yesterday is actually accurate, LOL. catbyte Jan 2013 #12
This is the same RNC that was arguing for a "Unitary Executive" (Dictatorship) when W was pResident. Ian David Jan 2013 #13
Was it written yesterday? One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #14
Reince, lather, repeat. truthisfreedom Jan 2013 #15
An actual power grab SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #16
Meh, appears to me someone is still pissed they lost. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #19
Regarding presidential executive orders, by the numbers Tx4obama Jan 2013 #20
Yeah I'm listening John2 Jan 2013 #24
Filth like Priebus are lecturing the President on power grabs? GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #22
What legislative process? jumptheshadow Jan 2013 #23

jambo101

(797 posts)
17. GOP,humanoid, whiner class.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jan 2013

Some one should tell those whiny malcontented GOP gun nuts that Obama is the duly elected President, he gets to wield the power, if the GOP dont like what he's doing,,,tough,you get some one up there as President then you can wield the power, maybe start some new wars..in the meantime quit the whining as it isnt what Americans are made of, in fact its embarrassing

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
2. What are they objecting to? Background checks for all? Mental health parity under the ACA?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:23 PM
Jan 2013

I'd like to know how they justify their complaints about those items.

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
3. The Republicans are or HAVE made this country the laughing stalk of the world
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jan 2013

Every time Obama opens his mouth, the republicans have to stick their foot in with exactly the opposite regardless of what Obama says.

cstanleytech

(26,310 posts)
18. Well they did it to themselves. They were the ones who courted the lunatic fringe as their base
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jan 2013

and now those same lunatics are in charge.

jlover70

(13 posts)
21. bingo !
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jan 2013

they don't like background checks either...because it may lead to the truth...that they're CRAZY AS HELL

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
7. Not to mention that precedent has been set. I have been researching this
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:40 PM
Jan 2013

and pretty much after every incident of mass public violence, an ensuing change in gun laws.
Here's a good article with timeline

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/A-History-of-Mass-Shootings-and-Gun-Control-184051431.html

President George H.W. Bush signed an executive order in 1989, not long after the shooting of school kids in California 1/17/1989.

I'm sick of the propoganda. Start your lame azz faux civil war already.

Journeyman

(15,037 posts)
8. I've never been keen on government by Executive Order. . .
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:41 PM
Jan 2013

I too believe our laws should be worked through the established legislative process.

I'm interested, though, in what if anything the RNC objects to within the proposed executive actions. If they can be forced to give their reasons now, it may make legislative enactment later a lot easier. And if their objections are strictly about the illegality of executive action, will they now propose legislation to nullify all such executive orders, both those given by Democrats as well as those by Republicans?

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
9. Scotus found in 1952 that executive orders were legal provided they
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jan 2013

have a previous act of congress (law) or constitutional power as it's origin. In kindergarten terms, they can enhance an existing law. Something like that. When George H.W. Bush made his ex order I think he used the gun law from the 1968 Gun Control Act. From what i've read, they say Obama could also use the 1934 National Firearms act (levied a tax on guns) or 1938 Federal Firearms Act (required gun dealers to be licensed) to extend existing laws.

orbitalman

(1,098 posts)
10. WELL.........!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jan 2013

Just WHO the fuck is trying to grab power??? Time to bust the concrete out of the GOP brains.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
13. This is the same RNC that was arguing for a "Unitary Executive" (Dictatorship) when W was pResident.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jan 2013

Scholar says Bush has used obscure doctrine to extend power 95 times

The Bush administration has been using an extreme version of an obscure doctrine called the Unitary Executive Theory to justify executive actions that far exceed past presidents' power, RAW STORY has learned.

The doctrine assumes, in its extreme form, nearly absolute deference to the Executive branch from Congress and the Judiciary.

According to Dr. Christopher Kelley, a professor in the Department of Political Sciences at Miami University, as of April 2005, President Bush had used the doctrine 95 times when signing legislation into law, issuing an executive order, or responding to a congressional resolution.

More:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/CanExecutive_Branch_Decide_0923.html

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
16. An actual power grab
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jan 2013

would be having the Republican leadership seized and shipped off to some secret prison for "interrogation".

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
20. Regarding presidential executive orders, by the numbers
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jan 2013

Obama: 143
George W. Bush: 291
Clinton: 363
Reagan: 380

ALL presidents here: http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html

Executive orders are official documents, numbered consecutively...


p.s. The link above is a good one to keep handy to refute the right-wingers that always FALSELY say that Obama has issued more EOs than Bush and other presidents.
 

John2

(2,730 posts)
24. Yeah I'm listening
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jan 2013

to Rachel Maddow now. This woman does her research. I think the NRA and Republican Tea baggers need to go back to school and learn some U.S. History. I also recomend this to a certain Senator in Florida. They are lacking about the knowledge of this Country's History. They are unfit for U.S. Leadership.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
22. Filth like Priebus are lecturing the President on power grabs?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

Now, that's fucking laughable. Isn't he the vermin that's pushing for rigged elections in order to continue his party's decades-long grab of power? Fuck you, you hypocritical waste of human flesh.

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