I'd say Occupy has lost it's way. Have they been infiltrated? Perhaps. But it's becoming more and more evident that the average person doesn't care about it anymore. The MSM isn't helping, but no one expected them to either.

You, wherever you are, might have different information.

Breaking into city hall and starting fires is not a peaceful movement... and I'm not talking about the flag photos in general, although others will no doubt.

so this issue is the issue that got me back to DU 3 for the first time in weeks... I see nothings changed. anti occupy

MSM making big deal about the flag burning. Say how bout the flags being torn to shreds stampled on etc.. those cops are out of control. couldn't avoid a riot if they tried. keep provoking one.

If DU won't protect freedom of speech (and that includes flag burning), who will?

What I'm saying is that this will hurt their image to the mainstream public. People will not see them as peaceful, but as radical. We don't need that. This must be fixed if the movement is to survive. It must be denounced.

that's the WHOLE POINT in a nutshell, of agent provocateurs.

Of course I have no evidence, but just enough age to be cynical.

I certainly believe that the probability is very high that the vandalism associated with the newest wave of protests, particularly the flag burnings, is largely the work of establishment forces trying to discredit the OWS movement.

absolutely nothing has changed, other than the effect on our national dialogue. Some people are mad about occupy, and that is as it was, and as it will be.

I will never forget sitting at a meal with a long time peace activist and listening to her complain about OWS, how they are "too new" and were "not there" all the times they were needed in prior protests, how they "dont know how to do things", etc.

n/t.

We're glad to have you with us! Your namesake is a hero in my neck of the woods, a statue on the historic Revolutionary War battlefield and the biggest bridge in four counties named after him!

and how long will it take to go to the judicial process

Oakland is going to go bankrupt fighting them