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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:39 PM Feb 2013

GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by a 10 percent reduction in federal work force

Source: AL.com

Congressional Republicans are firing back at President Obama's plan to once again delay sequestration, offering instead a proposal that would permanently do away with $1 trillion in cuts without raising taxes.

Senate and House members of the Armed Services Committee presented their plan today. It calls for a 10 percent reduction in the federal work force over the next decade, with the cuts coming from attrition. The plan calls for one federal worker to be hired for every three that leave.

Similar to a GOP bill introduced last year, the plan would fend off the $1 trillion in across-the-board cuts over the next decade - half from defense, the rest from other sources - that are set to trigger March 1.

"This is a way of doing this without cutting defense, without cutting domestically and without raising taxes," said Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Inhofe said the president's proposal of "25 percent domestic (cuts), 25 percent defense (cuts) and then the 50 percent tax increases" were a "non-starter."

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GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by a 10 percent reduction in federal work force (Original Post) Redfairen Feb 2013 OP
Republicans are AGAINST JOBS! But we've always knew that. n/t Tx4obama Feb 2013 #1
Yeah, let's do term limits! coldbeer Feb 2013 #3
No not term limits. Just vote the damn republicans out-of-office. n/t Tx4obama Feb 2013 #4
To hell with voting! Plucketeer Feb 2013 #9
No fair! The GOP should get credit for creating one very important job. savalez Feb 2013 #13
they're determined to crash the economy KG Feb 2013 #2
and that would do it underpants Feb 2013 #5
So they want to cut federal jobs Andy823 Feb 2013 #6
They aim to slow any reduction of the unemployment rate, NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #7
...START with Congress and move on to the Pentagon. SoapBox Feb 2013 #8
Hmm ... probably more people cut, adding to the jobless zbdent Feb 2013 #10
Bu through attrition adieu Feb 2013 #11
It may sound reasonable Sunny_Sunshine Feb 2013 #25
I agree with you adieu Feb 2013 #33
That only works if the jobs aren't needed to be performed. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #34
herd of idiots Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #12
They just can't help themselves. They're stuck in their ideological bubble and can't get out. Monk06 Feb 2013 #14
First, they will reduce... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #15
Asinine. n/t defacto7 Feb 2013 #16
The cons are bad at math; watoos Feb 2013 #17
Are they being paid by China? aquart Feb 2013 #18
Can the whole 10% come out of Defence? wickerwoman Feb 2013 #19
Amen...we have way too many Air Force Evangelists anyway...might get the cuts all there. (nt) Moostache Feb 2013 #22
This does comport with Republicans' long-term goal of whittling the Government down to nothing Samantha Feb 2013 #20
Death by a thousand cuts. sakabatou Feb 2013 #21
How many of Rincewind Feb 2013 #23
What A Stupid Idea DallasNE Feb 2013 #24
No it isn't atreides1 Feb 2013 #29
What's Your Point? DallasNE Feb 2013 #32
Ok well lets start with Home Land "Security" Drale Feb 2013 #26
start with a 10 percent reduction in GOP congress persons... mike_c Feb 2013 #27
GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by laying of workers in an already down economy abelenkpe Feb 2013 #28
More unemployment is their solution? Repugs are unbelievable. brush Feb 2013 #30
The GOP want to make sure it's obama who gets blamed for downsizing the military. That's okaawhatever Feb 2013 #31
This is a way for the GOP to not actually have to do anything to fix the problem jmowreader Feb 2013 #35
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
9. To hell with voting!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:48 PM
Feb 2013

Just lay the obstructionist bastards off. That way they can really beat their chests and brag about doing as the say.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
13. No fair! The GOP should get credit for creating one very important job.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:06 PM
Feb 2013

Barack Obama's second term as President.



underpants

(182,803 posts)
5. and that would do it
Reply to KG (Reply #2)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:56 PM
Feb 2013

Of course each segment on Fox News (and CNN of course) is either CUT SPENDING....or.... INCREASE THE ECONOMY

everyone knows that you can't do both at the same time

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
6. So they want to cut federal jobs
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:14 PM
Feb 2013

I say we start with "THEIR" jobs first. The republicans don't seem to want to actually do any "real" work to fix the economy, so I say cut their jobs first, fire the whole bunch, especially the house, they don't work enough hours to earn their pay anyway!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. They aim to slow any reduction of the unemployment rate,
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:24 PM
Feb 2013

and there is no easier way to accomplish that than cutting back Government jobs. The very first Government jobs to be cut should be in Congress.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
10. Hmm ... probably more people cut, adding to the jobless
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:51 PM
Feb 2013

than were ever "touched" by the Obama tax "increases" (read: return to pre-Bush era) ...

Watch them turn around and b*tch about the rise in unemployment being Obama's fault ...

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
11. Bu through attrition
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:54 PM
Feb 2013

is a more palatable method of decreasing payroll. I don't think it's good or fair to lay people off to cut head count and payroll. But letting it drop through attrition is the most humane and reasonable way to do so.

Sunny_Sunshine

(89 posts)
25. It may sound reasonable
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:49 PM
Feb 2013

Yeah, this way it is painless for the fools, no one has to say what will be cut. But things will be cut. How long do you wait for your tax refund. How long do you wait for a passport? How many rich guys get away with not paying all the taxes they owe because we don't have enough tax examiners to audit them? Then Congress will yell at the different directors and ask why they are not doing better customer service, why it takes so long. Why the roads and bridges are falling apart. Republicans want small government but they don't want to give up any services. Veterans are already dying before they can get their benefits review for the damage that was done to them while serving our country. If they want to cut something, say it and stand by it, don't hide behind "attrition."

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
33. I agree with you
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:42 PM
Feb 2013

I'd rather not see the attrition occur with replacements, and we really ought to do something about the revenue side of things, which Congress has refused to look into.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
34. That only works if the jobs aren't needed to be performed.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:26 AM
Feb 2013

Most federal jobs are probably bare bones as it is.

Remember this. Whenever anyone says that that federal government is too big fail to take into consideration the population of the USA. When it grows of course there will be more federal employees. The true test to see if it is too big is if the ratio increases.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. First, they will reduce...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:47 PM
Feb 2013

federal jobs by 10%. Then they will use that club to make the other 90% fear for their jobs. Once they are scared, they will start going after the remaining workers benefits.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
17. The cons are bad at math;
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:09 AM
Feb 2013

70% of our GDP comes from consumer spending. Cutting jobs and wages and benefits will never balance the budget. Sad, but the MSM is controlled by the Corpoatists so we will continue to hear the narrative of cutting spending.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. This does comport with Republicans' long-term goal of whittling the Government down to nothing
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:24 AM
Feb 2013

Not surprising in the least.

Sam

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
24. What A Stupid Idea
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:34 AM
Feb 2013

What federal agencies will do is to contract out the work at an increased cost, on a larger scale than already is happening today. Perhaps that is the real purpose -- funnel more money into the private sector. One has to wonder. If your only goal is cutting costs then you appropriate less money and let the managers figure out how best to allocate the reduced budget -- cutting people, services, contracting out, whatever.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
29. No it isn't
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:56 PM
Feb 2013

Republicans will have their justification for privatizing all federal jobs, with the exception of defense and intelligence!

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
32. What's Your Point?
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:31 PM
Feb 2013

That slashing head count is how you contain costs rather than setting budgets then letting the managers determine how to manage that reduce budget?

By the way, defense contracting happens today on a large scale. Remember the problems that caused in Iraq with Blackwater?

Drale

(7,932 posts)
26. Ok well lets start with Home Land "Security"
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:52 PM
Feb 2013

and move on to Gito, the staff of the House, the Staff of every General in all the services and how about we cut some House Repukes? O wait I forgot they are not Government employees, they work for Coropations now.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
28. GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by laying of workers in an already down economy
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:56 PM
Feb 2013

unconcerned with the ripple effects of how this will damage the local economy at large.

Jobs Jobs Jobs, eh?

As in lets cut workers, destroy unions, do away with minimum wage and child labor laws, fight equal pay for equal work, and block any attempt to stimulate the economy or stop offshoring. O those tricky republicans!

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
31. The GOP want to make sure it's obama who gets blamed for downsizing the military. That's
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:38 PM
Feb 2013

what that's about. They accused him of hiring Hagel so the downsizing of the military could be put on a Republican. Dang, we don't need that size of military. C'mon guys this is ridiculous. Also notice they aren't going after any gov't suppliers, you know the companies who make money and support GOP candidates.

I'm thinking Obama needs to call their bluff to get some military cuts or approve it and then wait until 2014 and do what he needs to do if/when we get dems in control.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
35. This is a way for the GOP to not actually have to do anything to fix the problem
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:41 PM
Feb 2013

The GOP knows exactly how they want the economy fixed. But they won't tell anyone what it is, and they won't accept anything else.

The truth is the economy cannot be fixed the way the GOP wants it fixed. Ten percent reduction in the federal workforce, whether by attrition (just not hiring a new worker to replace one the Republicans finally pissed off severely enough to see him or her walk out the door) or firing, isn't nearly enough. Spending cuts aren't nearly enough. It will take budget cuts AND tax increases. They know it. They don't want that.

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