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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:03 PM Feb 2013

Indiana GOP Lawmaker Wants To Block Out-Of-State Students From Voting

Source: The Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- Indiana lawmakers are debating Wednesday on legislation that would prohibit students who pay out-of-state tuition from voting in the Hoosier State -- and that may be unconstitutional.

The bill, introduced by state Rep. Peggy Mayfield (R-Martinsville), would amend the Indiana Code regarding elections to specify that "a person does not gain residency in a precinct into which the person moves for educational purposes if the person pays a nonresident tuition rate."

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Specifically, Rowland said that to obtain in-state tuition -- and, thus, the right to vote under Mayfield's bill -- a student must first be a resident of Indiana for a full year. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that states cannot set such an extended time barrier to voting, she said.

"The courts, including the Supreme Court in a case from the 1970s, have said very plainly that states cannot create restrictions on obtaining voting residency that are longer than 30 days," Rowland told The Huffington Post. "So 365 days is pretty clearly in violation of that constitutional law."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/indiana-students-voting_n_2631572.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

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Indiana GOP Lawmaker Wants To Block Out-Of-State Students From Voting (Original Post) Bjorn Against Feb 2013 OP
Jeebus! Do they really think they are being crafty? Or are they really that stoopids? benld74 Feb 2013 #1
The walk on their knuckles sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #4
Bulletproof R Majorities in Both Houses... democraticinsurgent Feb 2013 #2
Any prospective Indiana students please come to Illinois Paulie Feb 2013 #3
Republicans and their desperation is getting really jaysunb Feb 2013 #5
TRANSFERS BABY! chuckstevens Feb 2013 #6
Blatant, is the word. defacto7 Feb 2013 #7
Hey, Bobby Jindal told you point blank... Grassy Knoll Feb 2013 #8
If he or she lives there, that student is a resident of IN. Deep13 Feb 2013 #9
In many states, there is a citizenship exception clause for students OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #10
That's for tuition, not voting. Deep13 Feb 2013 #13
In California, it was a legal residency issue OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #14
Is it that there has to be "intent" to stay? BadgerKid Feb 2013 #11
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States... Deep13 Feb 2013 #12
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
4. The walk on their knuckles
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:41 PM
Feb 2013

and yes, they are that stoopid, but their stoopid is backed by wealth and power. As they get redder and stoopider, more blue state money will be sent to them than they pay in taxes. Their educational system will become 3rd rate. Life spans will decrease, crime rates will increase, teen pregnancies, divorce rates and poverty will soar, church attendance will spike upward at the same rate as sexually transmitted diseases. It really is a shame that after a conflict of 150 years, the Confederacy is finally winning.

democraticinsurgent

(1,157 posts)
2. Bulletproof R Majorities in Both Houses...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:33 PM
Feb 2013

Which means the jerks are throwing out the most insane legislation this year. Yesterday, the senate passed a bill requiring the teaching of cursive writing in schools.

They've also introduced bills requiring school prayer, allowing students to carry guns on college campuses, and other madness which I can't recall at the moment. The Indiana Dems had a majority in the house a few scant years ago but they let it get away.

Now Indiana is screwn.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
5. Republicans and their desperation is getting really
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:46 PM
Feb 2013

scary. The need for power and control over the majority is a serious problem for the near term future of our country.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
6. TRANSFERS BABY!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:44 PM
Feb 2013

If that actually do this, then It's quite simple: Any non-white Protestant student, who is viewed as a potential "threat" to the Hoosier Way of life should immediately transfer out of the state. Hurt these Stalinist Thugs where it counts and cripple their university system across the board. I love to see the loss in college sports revenue, let alone the tuition and room board losses with a mass exodus out of the state.

It amazes me that so many right-wing elected officials can so blatantly disregard the US Constitution.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. Blatant, is the word.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:56 PM
Feb 2013

The RW aristocrats have to find a way to keep people "from" voting.

Giving people the ability to vote, helping to make it easy for people to vote, encouraging people to get out the vote is passé. Thwarting the right for Americans to have their voice heard is the new chique in modern GOP trends.

How fashionable!

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
8. Hey, Bobby Jindal told you point blank...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:57 PM
Feb 2013

"You Have to STOP being the STUPID party"
A great Quote from the movie Scrooged: Sometimes you
have to KICK them in the head to get their attention.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
9. If he or she lives there, that student is a resident of IN.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:27 PM
Feb 2013

What if it's a private college without differential tuition?

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
10. In many states, there is a citizenship exception clause for students
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:47 AM
Feb 2013

It's exactly to prevent out-of-state residents from paying lower in-state rates. Generally, one has to withdraw for a semester and work to get around that.

Students generally are supposedto vote absentee in their parent(s)/guardian(s) home state and district.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
13. That's for tuition, not voting.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:56 PM
Feb 2013

Voting is a fundamental right and the 14th Amendment states that an American citizen is also a citizen of the state where he or she resides.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
14. In California, it was a legal residency issue
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

If you are an out-of-state student, you don't "reside" in the state in a legal sense. You still hold your full legal voting rights in your state of legal residence.

BadgerKid

(4,552 posts)
11. Is it that there has to be "intent" to stay?
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:51 AM
Feb 2013

IOW, you would need to be living off campus and paying utility bills.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
12. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:54 PM
Feb 2013

and subject to their jurisdiction, are citizens of the United States AND THE STATE WHEREIN THEY RESIDE.
--14th Amend.

There's no conditional language attached to that. Citizenship is a personal right, not a property right. It doesn't matter who they are paying for what.

And if they move away after four years, there will be new students in the same situation for the next four years. So why should someone be voting in a state where he or she does not live for four years?

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