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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:10 AM Feb 2013

Deb (R-NE) Fischer: Why I can't support Hagel nomination

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Deb Fischer

(The writer, a Republican, is Nebraska's junior U.S. senator.)

The decision to oppose a president's nominee is not one I take lightly.

I acknowledge that the president will nominate individuals with policy views distinct from my own; indeed, such differences do not automatically disqualify nominees. While Sen. John Kerry and I do not agree on much, I nonetheless supported his nomination for secretary of state because his positions are within the mainstream of American foreign policy.

It is my constitutional duty to provide rigorous scrutiny of all nominees, particularly for secretary of defense. As then-Sen. Bob Kerrey once noted, “the defense secretary has to be considered differently than other Cabinet officers because he has the authority to move troops.” I agree with this heightened standard.

I appreciate Chuck Hagel's service, both as an infantryman in Vietnam and as a United States senator representing Nebraska. However, after meeting with him privately and witnessing his confusing and contradictory testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, I cannot support his nomination.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20130207/NEWS0802/702079940/1685#deb-fischer-why-i-can-t-support-hagel-nomination

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Deb (R-NE) Fischer: Why I can't support Hagel nomination (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2013 OP
No one cares what Republicans have to say The Wizard Feb 2013 #1
What a fucking braindead moron davidpdx Feb 2013 #2
Do tell me more leftynyc Feb 2013 #14
I didn't realize AIPAC had made no formal stmt regarding his nom. It seems like every article I read okaawhatever Feb 2013 #15
Here ya go leftynyc Feb 2013 #16
Here is info on the leftynyc Feb 2013 #17
Thanks I read two of those and am reading the other. RJC is Republican Jewish Council, but I think okaawhatever Feb 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author leftynyc Feb 2013 #19
I had thought I heard that AIPAC was opposing Hagel davidpdx Feb 2013 #20
You did. This is rather plain, but in case you haven't seen it... Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #22
Hezbollah and Hamas are responsible for violence "across the middle east"? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #3
My reason for disliking Hagel pipoman Feb 2013 #4
In other words Inuca Feb 2013 #5
Sen. Fischer of Red Nebraska BE10sCoach Feb 2013 #6
"Thank you for your service". Now let me kick your ass out the door. chelsea0011 Feb 2013 #7
it's always nice to see a fresh new wackadoodle in the senate struggle4progress Feb 2013 #8
Teabaggy dingbat, PLEASE! We all know he campaigned for Bob Kerrey against you. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #9
BINGO!! That's what this is all about. Payback for him supporting her opponent. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #10
In related news: GOP throws new roadblock in Hagel's way pampango Feb 2013 #11
What she is telling me is Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #12
In the early morning hours cranberry Feb 2013 #13
Shilling Ian Iam Feb 2013 #21

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
1. No one cares what Republicans have to say
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:33 AM
Feb 2013

unless it's under oath, and even then, no one believes them.
She can't vote for Hagel because Miss McConnell told her she couldn't.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
2. What a fucking braindead moron
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:39 AM
Feb 2013

I have a feeling the Republicans are going to team up with the Israeli lobby and block Hagel's nomination. It's all about the money.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. Do tell me more
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:11 PM
Feb 2013

about this nefarious Israeli lobby. You couldn't possibly be talking about AIPAC as they are Americans and have taken absolutely no position on the Hagel nomination so I wait with bated breath to hear all about it.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
15. I didn't realize AIPAC had made no formal stmt regarding his nom. It seems like every article I read
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:40 PM
Feb 2013

said something about how concerned they were about him and so on. I know J Street and Americans for Peace have both supported him but I thought AIPAC, American Jewish Committee, Anti-Defamation League, RJC, Nat's Jewish Democratic council and the Israel Project were all against. Do you have a better source of information? Most of what i've gotten has been from multiple articles and i'm not sure who the most reliable source of information is on that topic. Thanks

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. Here ya go
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:09 PM
Feb 2013

AIPAC:

The Daily Beast reported that AIPAC – whose annual Policy Conference in DC I have attended for 20 years as a huge fan and supporter – has chosen to sit the Hagel nomination out, desiring as they do a positive relationship with the Pentagon and believing that President Obama has enough votes to get him confirmed.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/02/05/aipac%E2%80%99s-silence-on-chuck-hagel/


The ADL:

\n a major boost for Chuck Hagel, the Anti-Defamation League announced Monday that it will not oppose him for the position of defense secretary.
“Senator Hagel would not have been my first choice, but I respect the president’s prerogative,” Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the ADL, said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/anti-defamation-league-wont-oppose-hagel-85843.html#ixzz2KF3oOLjh


The other threee organizations I have never heard of so I'm going to have to dig on those. My point was calling is calling the ADL or AIPAC the Israeli lobby is simply a fucking lie They are Americans.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. Here is info on the
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:15 PM
Feb 2013

National Jewish Democratic Council:

The National Jewish Democratic Council, which has criticized Chuck Hagel for having a "questionable record on Israel," issued a statement Monday saying the group trusts he will follow President Obama's lead.

"President Barack Obama's unprecedented pro-Israel credentials are unquestionable, and setting policy starts and stops with the president. While we have expressed concerns in the past, we trust that when confirmed, former Sen. Chuck Hagel will follow the president's lead of providing unrivaled support for Israel -- on strategic cooperation, missile defense programs, and leading the world against Iran's nuclear program," the NJDC said.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/01/njdc-trusts-hagel-to-follow-obama-on-israel-153487.html


What the heck is the RJC? I'm getting everything from Republican Jewish Council to Reaching Japanese for Christ.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
18. Thanks I read two of those and am reading the other. RJC is Republican Jewish Council, but I think
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:28 PM
Feb 2013

that like AIPAC and Anti-Defamation they don't endorse candidates in Israel or US. It seems like they will give their opinion, but don't formally endorse or oppose candidates. That makes sense since they will have to deal with whoever Twins and opposing someone who eventually wins election or gets the job would really hurt the orgs until the next election.

Thanks again for the info

Response to okaawhatever (Reply #18)

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. I had thought I heard that AIPAC was opposing Hagel
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:11 PM
Feb 2013

I must have misinterpreted something I read about it.

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
22. You did. This is rather plain, but in case you haven't seen it...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:35 PM
Feb 2013

Pro-Israel Lobby AIPAC Sitting Out Hagel Fight

As Chuck Hagel’s critics line up, accusing him of being anti-Israel, the country’s biggest Israel lobby appears to be standing down. Eli Lake on a surprising move.

Opponent of Chuck Hagel's nomination to be secretary of defense have been lining up for battle, citing concerns about the former senator’s position on Israel.

Notably absent from the cast of critics: the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, Washington’s largest and most well funded pro-Israel lobby.

The powerful lobby, which doesn’t typically shy away from a fight, has decided to sit this one out, say several House and Senate staff members, as well as some pro-Israel activists in Washington.

“Staffers and members are trying to find out what AIPAC thinks of Hagel, and we are not getting anything,” one Senate Republican staff member said. Another Senate staff member said, “AIPAC will be sitting this one out.”


More: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/07/pro-israel-lobby-aipac-sitting-out-hagel-fight.html

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Hezbollah and Hamas are responsible for violence "across the middle east"?
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:52 AM
Feb 2013

Apparently "The Middle east" is a strip of land, 263 miles long and less than seventy miles wide - and nothing else.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. My reason for disliking Hagel
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:20 AM
Feb 2013

is that I dislike all RINOs and DINOs..I don't believe them to be trustworthy..

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
5. In other words
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:35 AM
Feb 2013

you prefer somebody like Ted Cruz to a non-ideologue who speaks his mind (most of the time)?

BE10sCoach

(48 posts)
6. Sen. Fischer of Red Nebraska
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:18 AM
Feb 2013

Fischer is just a continuing example of the fucking morons, the fucking morons in Red states continue to elect to the Senate and House. Can you expect anything less from these Right Wing, Tea Party, Asshole Republicans? Think Not. fuck em'

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
10. BINGO!! That's what this is all about. Payback for him supporting her opponent.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:08 AM
Feb 2013

Republicans are so disgusting

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. In related news: GOP throws new roadblock in Hagel's way
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:06 PM
Feb 2013

Former Sen. Chuck Hagel, President Obama's choice to lead the Defense Department, has generated some controversy, but is nevertheless well positioned to earn Senate confirmation. There's been some chatter about an unprecedented Republican filibuster -- no modern cabinet nominee has ever faced such obstructionism -- but there are more than enough votes to overcome the opposition.

So, it's over? With Hagel set to clear the Senate Armed Services Committee today, it's only a matter of time before the Nebraska Republican is sworn in, right? As Ali Gharib reported late last night, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has put a new roadblock between Hagel and confirmation -- and it's a doozy.

The problem is that the "committee's review of the nomination" will never be completed to the liking of Hagel's Republican opponents, because they've set an impossible bar for the nominee to clear. A Democratic official working on Hagel's confirmation told me: "What they're asking is unprecedented, and it's clear that it's information that he's unable to provide." The official noted that the U.S. had myriad national security concerns on its plate, not least of which was the 66,000 American troops deployed in Afghanistan right now.

Though it appeared the review process, and the scrutiny of Hagel's background, was complete, Cruz launched a new salvo, asking for financial information about private companies he was affiliated with but does not control. Hagel's already provided as much information as he has access to, including everything from his own personal holdings and investment portfolio, but he found some of Cruz' inquiries literally impossible to answer.

For the right-wing Texan and 24 of his Senate GOP allies, this means Hagel is being uncooperative and secretive.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/02/07/16884989-gop-throws-new-roadblock-in-hagels-way

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
12. What she is telling me is
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:49 PM
Feb 2013

'I'm opposed to everything and anyone that muslim communist born in Indonesia and Kenya proposes and for everything he is against. If he comes out opposed to measles, then I'm for measles.'

This is just the attitude of the Spite Right and the Rethuglican faction.

Wolf

cranberry

(8 posts)
13. In the early morning hours
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:35 PM
Feb 2013

after the election I was still celebrating the Obama victory and I saw that despicable Deb Fischer won. I remember telling my wife that land stealing tea party freak would be an embarrassment to our state before she was finished. Hell, she is barely out of the starting gate and is already showing the rest of the country what a ditz she is.

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