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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:50 AM Feb 2013

Iran claims released footage is from downed U.S. drone

Source: CNN

Iran says it has decoded and released footage from a U.S. drone that it downed more than a year ago.

The black and white aerial footage, Iran claims was from a RQ-170 spy plane, was aired by Iranian news agencies and placed on YouTube.
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Iran had said it downed the drone on December 4, 2011 near Kashmar in the country's northeast, some 225 kilometers (140 miles) from the border with Afghanistan.




Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/world/meast/iran-drone-video/index.html



Iran has posted the footage to YouTube. It is also available at link.
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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. "We've asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond," Obama said later that month.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:53 PM
Feb 2013


I wouldn't have been so open about it, and I would have let Carney field that one.

Now what happens when the Iranians want to declare a drone assassinate one of its citizens? How will it look when the US denies it?

Whether it is true or not, the assassination, how would it look to then deny such an event having previously owned up to this?

bananas

(27,509 posts)
2. Is this it?
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:03 PM
Feb 2013


Iran airs decoded video from US drone

PressTVGlobalNews
Published on Feb 7, 2013

Iran has for the first time released decoded video recordings obtained from a US RQ-170 Sentinel stealth drone downed and captured by the Islamic Republic in December 2011.

<snip>

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
3. It's truly AMAZING to me
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:38 PM
Feb 2013

that the Iranians managed to "capture" one of these drones in the first place! Once this thing was hijacked it should have automatically self-destructed. It should have ended it's time with the Iranians scouring many square miles of Iran for the tiny bits of aftermath from an internal explosive device.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. If the Iranians can grab one then perhaps
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:56 PM
Feb 2013

they can also destroy them as well.

I'm sure that the USA is figuring out counter measures as you specify, but how is one to stop that if an enemy can hijack a drone and turn off any countermeasures?

This is hi-tech tech warfare, and the players are all becoming more sophisticated at it.
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
12. IF they were able to commandeer this drone
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:02 PM
Feb 2013

and then - on whatever flight duration it had left - were able to decipher said "countermeasures" we have MUCH to fear of our Iranian foe!
There should be a totally un-integrated self destruct system that could be set off independent of the main control systems.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. I doubt they hijacked it
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:09 PM
Feb 2013

it is much more likely it crashed due to a mechanical malfunction - drones, especially new models, have a poor reliability record.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
11. Then it STILL should have had
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:57 PM
Feb 2013

built-in provisions to self-immolate. If it DID crash, they sure did a great job of reconstructing it for display.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. Considering we have no detailed pictures of the real thing
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:13 PM
Feb 2013

how do you know that what they put on display actually were the remnants of a US drone. It doesn't take much to put together a fiberglass mold.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
19. I understood what you were comveying
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:48 PM
Feb 2013

Consider if you will, that there wasn't strong denial or refute from the USA. One risks looking dumber if down the road one has to back track.

I have to wonder WHAT is the purpose of cloaking the underside of the displayed drone. I understand the questions that raises. Again tho - there was little protest from the US.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
17. In December of 2011, the U.S. admitted that Iran had one and we asked for it back
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:56 PM
Feb 2013

Also it is speculated that the RQ-170 does not have a self-destruct option.

Back in December 2011 the US government first lied, then grudgingly had to admit that Iran had seized one of its RQ-170 Sentinel drones, which crash-landed in the middle of the country, after Iran released a video showing its scientists attempting to reverse engineer the contents of the drone. Naturally, the US politely asked for its drone back, and just as naturally, Iran politely refused to comply. So what was Iran doing in the intervening 14 months? Hacking the drone of course, which it finally succeeded last night when it released a short clip of what it had supposedly extracted from the remains of the Sentinel.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-07/iran-releases-footage-hacked-us-drone

hack89

(39,171 posts)
18. I know one crashed and that they have the wreckage
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:47 PM
Feb 2013

I was just questioning whether what they put on display was the actual wreckage they recovered. That's all.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
9. It's painfully obvious that footage is fake.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:41 PM
Feb 2013

It's footage taken by a camera in an airliner and from a car, on a road.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
10. No, see, it's just so far advanced that it breaks from every military camera system on the planet
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:57 PM
Feb 2013

...avoiding such absurd conventions as time and range stamps, and eschewing so-called "useful" things like focus and high resolution.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. The drone had no business being there in the first place. It has just elevated the Game of War to
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:28 PM
Feb 2013

another level. It's good we're sparing our own military recruit, jobless teenagers the tacky death and destruction of the real-life killing fields with our new video game air toy. Why, some kids will barely know the difference.

The American Empire, like all others, has a shelf time. I just pray it isn't in my, or my son's, time.

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