US Pulls Plug on Iran Cable News (Press TV)
Source: Common Dreams
As part of the United States expansive new sanctions against Iran, North American cable networks have pulled the plug on the country's state-run, English-language news network Press TV.
Calling the move a "flagrant violation of freedom of speech," Press TV announced Saturday that they had been dropped from the Galaxy 19 satellite platform which had previously broadcast the channel in the United States and Canada.
New sanctions announced by the US Treasury Department this week blacklisted Iran's state-run television network, the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), as well as its director, Ezatollah Zarghami.
So long as Iran continues to fail to address the concerns of the international community about its nuclear program, the U.S. will impose tighter sanctions [...] against the Iranian regime, David S. Cohen, Treasury Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, said in a statement. We will also target those in Iran who are responsible for human right abuses, especially those who deny the Iranian people their basic freedoms of expression, assembly and speech.
Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/02/09-2
EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)on the right board? CBC, BBC, and Al Jazeera English are some of the best broadcasts out there.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Iran's channel is less outright biased than RT.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Do you listen to RT/Russia or is it RT/America/Question that you have a problem with?
What exactly is your problem with either or one or the other?
Do you feel that Americans should be denied access to them...if so WHY?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I have to agree with "Hell hath No Fury." The news available through most American owned outlets is so adolescent, primitive and infantile as to be nearly useless. It wasn't always this way.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)or Aljazeera and then US news, US news is infantile. This reminds me of the Iron Curtain. In the old days, then, the US would have used radio wave jamming, similar to what we criticized others of doing. Herein lies the problem with the internet, and control of content. Some of us like to hear what them, over there are saying ... it's being well informed. During the cold war one could always hear Radio Moscow on SW radio.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Just gave you my first heart.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Just gave you my first heart too!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Socal31
(2,484 posts)I like reading it for the entertainment factor, but it is pretty bad otherwise. Still I recommend reading it to people who are bright enough to know who funds it and why the stories are presented like they are.
English Language Al-Jazeera is a much better choice, but I also read English language news from SK, and China. Not so much for the news, but for the message boards. I like to read what the common citizen thinks.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)...respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)who is Saudi Arabian as I understand it were born outside the U.S.
No. Let them speak.
Who listens to Iranian media anyway. I didn't even know they broadcast into the US.
I don't like censorship of any kind, not even based on the nationality or the financial supporters of the media.
DBoon
(22,397 posts)nt
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)That's just so amazingly stupid I'm not sure I have words for it.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)"broadly" these days.
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)The government is SO concerned about the civil rights of other countries....
At home they impose NDAA, wire tap Emails and phone calls without warrant, and put their hands down the pants of citizens at the airport.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It is as if the Gov't does not even hear itself anymore.
ok, if ever.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)None I've ever seen.
This won't exactly be a big deal. Something else is going on.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)who watch media from abroad. Some cables have access to foreign news for those from abroad who live and work here. I guess Iranian citizens and students and others who have Visa's here will now be denied access. Punished for being an ethnic group that our American Govt. has declared on their "unapproved list."
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)on state run propaganda for news, is absurd.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)What's the dif?
Check out the Bill Moyers link downthread here.
Moyers and "Democracy Now" are about it for discussion and diverse opinion on US Media. There are a few online shows that try...like "The Real News" and indies that pick up Sam Seder and a few others...but, they aren't widely available to average Americans.
http://billmoyers.com/
Katorama
(48 posts)We live in Mysterious Times.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Why are Americans censored from being able to view media from other countries.
What's next? Will our libraries and bookstores, plus E-Book sellers ban books from countries we don't approve of?
This is dangerous stuff.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)When I lived in Chile I had access to Russian movies and periodicals which we weren't allowed to get here in the USA during the cold war.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)...shouldn't we do something about it?
Should this be the norm that we are told we are the Land of Free Speech while other countries propagandize their people? We are "supposed" to be bringing freedom and democracy and rights of Free Speech and Though to millions who live under what are known as Regimes who try to suppress their people.
We did it before...should we continue to do it now that we know what has been done that we weren't aware of until after the fact?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)in shorter weeks. I notice they have more Hannity than Bill Press on their political shelves too. Maybe it's because the Heritage Foundation and other right wing think tanks donate the RW drivelers published works to the libraries who can't afford to buy very much any more. It's like a plan to keep us uninformed. Now they are shriveling the Post Office where many of us get our periodicals by subscription that no longer seem to be available in the mag sections of the stores. It seems they are working on limiting what we can access on the internet too. They just haven't figured out how yet. Welcome to the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.
I really don't know how we are going to go about getting the attention of those who can do something about this. If we can't get their attention about wars, Gitmo and drones, why would they listen to us about preserving our free speech?
Katorama
(48 posts)Anyone remember Kimberly Clark vs. Ed Asner/Lou Grant?
One of the best shows ever on television run down by a corporation.
Land of the Free and all that rot.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and the European version?
The covers are very very different.
Thank god the internet does allow wider access to non-US news.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)also business channel CNBC EUROPE...CNBC AMERICA....it goes on and on.
In a touted by our Government "Global Economy" when we are supposedly Democratizing other Nations and doing Drone Strikes it would seem the American People should be exposed to the views of other Countries and especially those we choose to pick fights with.
I'm from Vietnam Era....I will never forget what was done there. This is our Tax Money going for our battles and now we are denied access to a voice that we hope to Democratize? Tell me how this makes sense?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)"they" just went underground until the 1980s, then become more and more brazen and public.
Tis tje way it has always been.
Peace is the aberration.
War is the norm.
Sigh.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Big whoop.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)I'm betting propaganda so I have no problem with what the cable networks are doing
KoKo
(84,711 posts)for decades to push the "American Viewpoint" on countries that we feel need "enlightening" to our "freedoms."
Edited Post: For current name: VOA.
You do realize that America was settled in large part by those escaping their countries because of oppression of their rights. Including what books they read, how they chose to express their religion and thoughts?
Or have you overlooked that?
alp227
(32,060 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)alp227
(32,060 posts)I guess you confused real life & the movie.
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KoKo
(84,711 posts)Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
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This article is about the US government-funded radio broadcast service. For the R.E.M. song, see Radio Free Europe (song). For the UCKG UK radio station, see Liberty Radio.
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
RFE/RL official logo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RFE_Broadcast_Regions_crop.jpg
RFE/RL Broadcast Region 2009
Abbreviation RFE/RL
Motto Free Media in Unfree Societies
Formation 1949 (Radio Free Europe), 1953 (Radio Liberty), 1976 (merger)
Type private, non-profit Sec 501(c)3 corporation
Purpose/focus Broadcast Media
Headquarters Prague Broadcast Center
Location Czech Republic Prague, Czech Republic
Official languages English. Programs are also available in Albanian, Armenian, Arabic, Avar, Azerbaijani, Bashkir, Bosnian, Belarusian, Chechen, Circassian, Crimean Tatar, Dari, Georgian, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Pashto, Persian, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Tajik, Tatar, Turkmen, Ukrainian, Uzbek
President Kevin Klose (since January 26, 2013);[1] Dennis Mulhaupt is Chair of RFE's corporate board (since October 2010).[2]
Parent organization Broadcasting Board of Governors
Budget $83,161,000 (FY 08)
Staff 497
Website http://www.rferl.org
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) is a broadcaster funded by the U.S. Congress that provides news, information, and analysis to countries in Eastern Europe, Central Asia, and the Middle East "where the free flow of information is either banned by government authorities or not fully developed".[3] RFE/RL is supervised by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, a bi-partisan federal agency overseeing all US international broadcasting services.[4]
Founded as an anti-communist propaganda[neutrality is disputed] source during the Cold War, RFE/RL was headquartered at Englischer Garten in Munich, Germany, from 1949 to 1995. In 1995, the headquarters were moved to Prague in the Czech Republic. European operations have been significantly reduced since the end of the Cold War. In addition to the headquarters, the service maintains 20 local bureaus in countries throughout their broadcast region, as well as a corporate office in Washington, D.C. RFE/RL broadcasts in 28 languages[5] to 21 countries[6] including Armenia, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq.[7]
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Radio Free Europe
Radio Free Europe was created and grew in its early years through the efforts of the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE), a US anti-communist organization that was formed in New York City in 1949. The committee was composed of an "A list" of powerful U.S. citizens including former ambassador and first NCFE chairman Joseph Grew; Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director Allen Dulles; Reader's Digest owner Dewitt Wallace; former diplomat and the co-founder of Public Opinion Quarterly Dewitt Clinton Poole; and prominent New York investment banker Frank Altschul.[8]
Its mission was to support the refugees and provide them with a useful outlet for their opinions and creativity.[9] The NCFE divided its program into three parts: exile relations, radio, and American contacts.[8] Although exile relations were initially its first priority, Radio Free Europe (RFE) became the NCFE's greatest legacy.]
RFE was developed out of a belief that the Cold War would eventually be fought by political rather than military means.[10] American policymakers such as George Kennan and John Foster Dulles acknowledged that the Cold War was essentially a war of ideas. The United States, acting through the CIA, funded a long list of projects to counter the Communist appeal among intellectuals in Europe and the developing world.[11]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty
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Board running Voice of America, Radio Free Europe is condemned in hard-hitting probe
EXCLUSIVE: Board of Broadcast Governors member Victor H. Ashe, a friend of George W. Bush, is criticized
Comments (1)
By James Warren / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, January 20, 2013, 9:53 AM
Victor Ashe, who roomed with George W. Bush, is under fire
The White House-appointed board overseeing government-funded broadcasts to 100 countries is a dysfunctional mess beset by acute internal dissension revolving around a longtime friend of former President George W. Bush, according to a new inspector generals report obtained by the Daily News.
The damning investigation skewers the Board of Broadcast Governors, which oversees the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty and other broadcast entities that together employ 3,500 people and reach 190 million people worldwide each week at a cost to taxpayers of $750 million a year.
The inspector general says the board is hobbled by chronic absenteeism, vacancies that have gone unfilled, outright conflicts of interest and a degree of hostility that renders its deliberative process ineffectual.
Though it names no names, the report characterizes board meetings as dominated by one member whose tactics and personal attacks on colleagues and staff have created an unprofessional and unproductive atmosphere.
It concurs with accusations that he impedes free board discussion and uses outside media to support his views and attack colleagues and staff who disagree.
Several board sources confirmed that the controversial and powerful member is Victor H. Ashe, who roomed with Bush at Yale and served under him as U.S. Ambassador to Poland from 2004-2005. He was previously mayor of Knoxville, Tenn.
The inspector general's report is silent on whether the board's problems are impeding its crucial but tricky mission: overseeing broadcasts that are supposed to inform people around the world while also supporting U.S. foreign policy.
MORE AT...........
ead more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/board-running-voice-america-condemned-article-1.1243471#ixzz2KSCLbc2q
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)like the Soviets either did or tried during the Cold War, but that has nothing to do with the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting is controlled by the Iranian government and only puts out news that the Iranian government approves
Right now, the US and other countries have an embargo against Iran and that includes Iranian businesses. I guess it doesn't matter to you that the Iranian government, which controls the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting, supports terrorism around the world.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Look at the changing terms that go on. What were our American Revolutionaries? Freedom Fighters or Terrorists against the Crown and the Torries in the US who supported the Crown?
It cuts both ways.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)and if you're not bright enough to understand the difference, nothing I can say will make you see the difference
Katorama
(48 posts)And I'm pretty sure the United States government has supported a number of terrorist organizations.
In fact, America has used terror groups to further our foreign policy objectives.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)So they don't care about it yet they care about it? I'm so confused.
Both sides are hypocrites. I don't see the big deal. Press TV is propagandistic anyway. Yes, I've seen it. Yes I know what propaganda by omission is. The US media is similarly propagandistic. None are immune except they have different priorities. US media is profit, Press TV is parroting anti-American Emmanuel Goldsteins.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)unlike the Iranian government
some people may want to put on their little tin foil hats and say they do but that won't make it true
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Yes, commercialistic propaganda is still propaganda. I do think the newswire is relatively good, however, despite what people here will say about it (AP, AFP, Reuters, etc). The main problem with the US is its cable media more than anything else.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)of real news and some spun stuff. Their current headline news concerns your storm.
Still available on line anyway.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)to have information that they can decide on themselves as to the validity of it.
"Someone or Some Folks" are happy with Limbaugh and his clones and Fox News and others who have voices like CNN (the war channel) but when Americans want to learn about what goes on in other countries in our "Global Economy" that we've been told to support because its so Good for us....we are told that we need to be denied news from sources that our Government deems..."Propaganda."
We obviously are too stupid or uneducated to have such stuff broadcast in our homes or on our airwaves...because it's not on the "Approved List" declared by those who "know better than we do."
.
Sheesh....
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)it's useful to know how other people see the world, and who knows? They may even be right about some things.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)how about Joseph Gobbels? was he right about anything?
how about the crap put out by that workers' paradise in North Korea?
propaganda by its very definition is biased and designed to evoke emotion rather than inform
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)even people we dismiss for very good reasons can be right, sometime for the wrong reasons.
Prime case in point, the Nazis were trying to create the master race, so they studied people who lived long, healthy lives, i.e. got to be very old without too much physical deterioration. They found out that the healthiest people ate lots of fruits and vegetables, got regular exercise, drank in moderation, and didn't smoke. In fact, they found out that smoking was one of the worst things you can do for your health. They used their propaganda apparatus to convince Germans to stop smoking, limit their drinking, eat healthy foods, and get plenty of exercise.
Was this valid information? Of course. Were the researchers' and propagandists' motives admirable? Of course not.
That didn't change the truth of their conclusions.
For years after World War II, this information was discredited as "Nazi propaganda," especially by the tobacco companies. But it happened to be right, and gradually the rest of the world caught up.
Does this mean that Nazism was a good idea or that every Nazi belief was worthy of consideration?
Definitely not!
Soviet sources were often correct about the skullduggery that the CIA was up to, things that the American people weren't supposed to know about because of "national security," even though the Soviets obviously knew about them anyway.
North Korea is a law unto itself. The Kim family has been crazy since forever, and everyone outside of North Korea knows it. I've actually read some of their propaganda. They've never caught on to the fact that you're not supposed to sound insane in your own external PR.
In any case, it's still good to know what other people are thinking. We used to criticize the Soviets for blocking the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe, and the Republicans still go into mouth foaming mode when they're reminded that Cuba blocks Radio Martí.
What harm is done if the Iranian viewpoint gets through to the U.S.? Are masses of Americans going to convert to Shiite Islam and start advocating an Islamic Republic in the U.S.?
I know, I know, it's useful for the purposes of the foreign policy hawks if Middle America thinks of Middle Easterners as faceless "terrorists."
frylock
(34,825 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)it would seem. Even with that repaired crack....it's worth a try.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)Nothing of value has been lost.
Katorama
(48 posts)I don't watch it either, but I sure wish I could if I wanted to.
Land of the Free, and all that.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)"I don't like what you're saying so I don't care if you're prevented from saying it".
Scary.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Because we do it too.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)and then make up one's mind.
Some of us have more time than others to do it...but, should we be penalized?
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It's akin to Voice of America. Of course, whenever we push VOA on other countries it's considered USAID conspiracy stuff, and if those countries refuse to show it, then they're protecting themselves from the US imperialist threat.
Robb
(39,665 posts)It is state media. Press TV, and its affiliates, are required by the Iranian constitution to exclusively represent the opinions of the government. That should give you pause.
As I've said before, there's nothing wrong with non-MSM sources. In fact they are largely preferable.
But this PressTV business is another matter; you are praising a source that is part and parcel to a government. You are helping contribute to increasing the reach and influence of a government, not that of an independent news source.
And this is, not parenthetically, a government that makes being gay an imprisonable offense. There is no argument that this is not the case. Whatever else one might believe about Iran, this should be enough for any progressive to steer clear.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Tax Dollars) to help contribute to "... increasing the reach and influence of a government, not that of an independent news source" (Quote from You)
And...up above I have what our "Radio Free Europe/Voice of America" has done and is doing to Propagandize for Our Government Globally.
See....I shouldn't steer clear. I love Free Speech and to read and Listen and Watch what I want to...no matter where it comes from because I am an independent thinker born and bred in AMERICA where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is our FOUNDING!
Just so you know.......that you can't stop folks seeking information by wagging your "personal finger" saying "...this should be enough for any progressive to steer clear."
I think the Nazi's & Fascists tried that before....and it worked out badly for a huge population of the world. Hey...what about that FREE SPEECH for IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, LIBYA, EGYPT, SAUDI ARABIA, MALI, the AFRICOM CONTRIES, CHINA, and all the other countries we call down for Censorship of their Citizens?
Robb
(39,665 posts)That you claim to support the latter and "free speech" in the same breath beggars belief.
It's like saying you support labor and then shopping at non-unionized businesses, because "I want the freedom to shop where I want." No one's saying you can't shop at WalMart, but when you do I'm going to assume you aren't committed to labor in any meaningful way.
When you aggrandize the state-run media of a homophobic state, I've frankly got a lot of assumptions.
..."Nazi's." Spare me.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Shop at Walmart?
You have got to be kidding! BTW up until recently the USA was a "homophobic state" and before that a Government that denied Blacks and Women the Right to Vote. We invaded Korea and Vietnam and we now fly drones over territories of Sovereign States or Dictator States but it's OTHER PEOPLES LANDS.
Who the hell are you to tell me what to watch and what I can read and where I can shop or I will not be considered a Democrat or a Progressive or a Union Supporter?
Who are you to judge anyone in such an antagonistic way?
Robb
(39,665 posts)alp227
(32,060 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)They should not be seen by anyone as a legitimate source of news.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)So at worst, the country conservatives are so eager to bomb are their soulmates.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)from Radio Personalities and even the hate/CT stuff from conservative ravers on CABLE. Remember Hillary accused of killing Vince Foster and some congressperson who staged shooting a melon to show how she could have done it? What about the Clinton Tapes that Limbaugh bloviated about supported. I hear he's on our Armed Services Radio broadcasts and approved still even though there have been efforts to get him cancelled for doing propaganda to our service people.
If it's allowed in MSM here in the US..and we can broadcast news in other countries that is US oriented (remember we did that after we invaded Iraq) then isn't it censorship to deny access to foreign news? After all there's BBC, German, French, Canadian also available to many Cable subscribers along with Asian News for balance.
That's my point...not condoning some of the reports on Press TV that are like your link or even on other countries broadcasts that allow some on to spout (what many might consider CT stuff)....but, if we don't believe in censorship as Americans, then we need to let folks make up their own minds and not shield them from what is going on even if it's vile and ugly stuff that's being promoted it should be confronted with discussion pointing it out rather than hidden in corners of the internet where it festers and grows.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)and in having watched his reports of Occupy and other activism events in and near this area, I have to say he's told the truth and not purposely omitted critical details which would completely change the story (as our mainstream media have oft done). I can't speak of PressTV in general but I applaud the local reporter. PressTV have also continued to put out "OWS Week" segments detailing Occupy and other activism. Of course, they and RT likely grin with glee in being able to broadcast about the States' internal trouble, but quite honestly, after a year of OWS and zero banksters arrested or even charged, and having seen US media LIE their asses off on the same subjects if not ignoring them entirely, that the US deserves it aired like dirty laundry. Fix the problems and they'd have nothing to air.
Example of US mainstream media being bastards:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525506
Remember that US media are in general, owned by six corporations. Mitt Romney's Bain is involved at some level, such as with Clear Channel, IIRC.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Moyers: FCC moves toward more media consolidation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021924578
http://billmoyers.com/2012/12/03/fcc-moves-towards-more-media-consolidation/
Aaron: Well, thats the $64 million question. Barack Obama as a senator was one of the leading voices against the exact same rules that his FCC chairman is pushing forward now. He wrote op-eds, he co-sponsored legislation to throw out these exact same rules, legislation that passed in the Senate. And yet, his own FCC chairman, his appointee, is suddenly in a huge rush to get this deal done....
....
Aaron: "....I dont think the publics opinion on this has changed at all 99 percent are against it. I dont think the Congresss opinion has changed. We just saw ten or eleven senators send letters to the FCC saying dont go forward. And I honestly believe the courts opinion hasnt changed. They rejected these same rules twice before, and if the FCC continues down this path they will reject them again. But we shouldnt have to get to that point. We have an opportunity here to stop the runaway push toward media consolidation. How will this impact diversity of ownership? How will this impact local news? Lets have a conversation about it a public conversation and stop trying to just push through favors for a small handful of moguls.
Moyers: What does it say to you that the chairman of the FCC is running a secret process that would, in effect, gut media ownership limits?
Aaron: Well, I think hes forgotten who hes supposed to actually work for. I think the chairman of the FCC thinks its his job to just negotiate between companies. And this is an opportunity to remind him that this is actually not his job. His job is to promote diversity. His job is to promote competition. His job is to promote consumer choice. That is not something he has always seen as part of his job, but this is really the time for him to learn that lesson. The Federal Communications Commission is a very captured agency. The big companies have a lot of power there. A lot of people who used to work in the building now work in industry; a lot of people who used to work in industry now work in that building. But at its core, what the FCC is supposed to do is represent the American public. And thats something unfortunately this chairman is having to find out the hard way.
cali
(114,904 posts)Press is a wholly owned government Propaganda outlet. Silly to ban it, but defense of it as legitimate is as fucked and stupid as defense of Fox..
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Where they report from. Many of their reporters are American and attended US Universities and Grad Schools. If you go to their website and view their staff for RT America you would be surprised at their diversity. Their reporting, documentaries and discussions are of a caliber you won't see here. Remember....we are at "Endless War" and our news reflects that.
Check out RT.... As for Press TV doing one story with a headline that's offensive. Have you ever wondered what the average Iranian feels about our offensive headlines accusing their country of heinous things that we have no idea the truth of. In their case they have a right to defend their viewpoint. Obviously closing ones ears to other viewpoints got us into an Iraq Invasion and now has us involved in 5 actions in what Cheney/Rumsfeld called 'Our Theaters of Interest."
Anyway...check out both online and see what you think.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)sat dish, Press TV is sat only and blocked on Iranian internet. How you can support a State owned media outlet of any State is beyond me, but of an anti gay State that would claim Sandy Hook kids were killed by Israelis is sort of double beyond.
When you claim the content is of a caliber we don't see here, that is ironic because Iranians don't see it there, and that content is created to show here and in the west. I also do not agree with you that it is all that great, content wise. And it is an owned and operated arm of the Iranian State, which is not unique among States in that it serves it's own interests.
I feel sorry that you think that by just not being western, media is instantly good and one should shut down all critical thinking. It is State owned Media, and you like that. Would you also trust US State owned media? Israeli?
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)So you don't trust BBC, RTE, ABC (Australia), CBC (Canada) etc? Lots of countries have state media.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Thanks for your experience with the PTV reporter. RT/America even did a retrospective on OWS this past week. It ran several times a day for the whole week. It was outstanding.
I watch them both and get a perspective of news from different viewpoints lacking for two decades from our Cable/network Media. Aside from Bill Moyers and Democracy Now...there's nothing that passes for "discussion from varying viewpoints" on our US TV.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The government which employs that reporter jails my people. Occupy should do a mic check on that one. Does this reporter report on those abuses in his own nation? Of course not.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)sorry (words don't work) about your people and the real, actual crimes done by Iran's and any government in its own self-interest. Peace...
The Stranger
(11,297 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Not yet blocked by The Great American Firewall".
http://www.presstv.ir/
Robb
(39,665 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)in the censorship dept. Go USA! Lady Liberty has a huge wedgie.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)There's a reason why I've always called it PreSS TV, folks.....