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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:01 AM Feb 2013

Protester hurls shoes at Paul Bremer, former US envoy to Iraq

Source: NBC News

Former U.S. diplomat Paul Bremer had shoes thrown at him during a meeting held Wednesday in the British Parliament in an attack reminiscent of the 2008 shoe hurling directed at President George W. Bush.

The incident occurred as Bremer, a former U.S. envoy to Iraq, was giving a speech at a meeting organized by the Henry Jackson Society, a British-based think tank named for the late U.S. senator from Washington state. Bush, who appointed Bremer to his post in Iraq was the target of a similar attack when he visited Baghdad in 2008. Shoe hurling is a traditional Arab gesture of disrespect.

In the latter incident, a man stood up, seemingly to address Bremer, and announced he was delivering two messages, one from Saddam Hussein and one from the Iraqi people.

"This is the first message," the man said, as he threw the first shoe. Bremer can be seen ducking, but he then started laughing, in seeming disbelief.





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Protester hurls shoes at Paul Bremer, former US envoy to Iraq (Original Post) cal04 Feb 2013 OP
A message from Saddam, eh? MADem Feb 2013 #1
Well, since things are more transparent, I guess it was well worth the trouble. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #21
You can come to that conclusion, if you'd like. nt MADem Feb 2013 #23
Sounded like you did. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #24
No, I didn't come to that conclusion at all. MADem Feb 2013 #25
Bremmer almost snagged the second shoe. Interesting reaction. wake.up.america Feb 2013 #2
Bush, anyone? sakabatou Feb 2013 #3
Never tire of seeing that. Marie Marie Feb 2013 #4
Me either! Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #15
He deserved that. Kath1 Feb 2013 #6
toss hibbing Feb 2013 #8
9 months in jail muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #12
The second one came pretty close davidpdx Feb 2013 #13
It'd be fun to see that internet game come back, but we need Cheney up there. nt patrice Feb 2013 #29
There was a game? sakabatou Feb 2013 #33
Yep polly7 Feb 2013 #34
Yeah! It was pretty simple; used the actual images, with GW popping up & down & the patrice Feb 2013 #35
Gotta give credit, it was a nice dodge. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #32
Classy. I'm sure that convinced lots of people to join the cause. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #5
Yes, one must be polite with war criminals. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #26
When Bremmer starts to 2naSalit Feb 2013 #7
Agree!!! patrice Feb 2013 #30
good Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #9
Question is dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #10
Or a plastic OTAFUKU, very popular in the Middle East.... MADem Feb 2013 #27
He should have thrown a turd. secondvariety Feb 2013 #11
Was "Scoop" Jackson a militarist Commie-phobe? Kolesar Feb 2013 #14
a hero of the neocons Enrique Feb 2013 #16
Congressmen who never said no to the aerospace-weapons-builders Kolesar Feb 2013 #19
wow, we're coming on 10 years Enrique Feb 2013 #17
Good. polly7 Feb 2013 #18
K&R! patrice Feb 2013 #31
Where did all the money go, Mr. Bremer? deminks Feb 2013 #20
These guys really... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #22
Crude Missiles nt Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #28

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. A message from Saddam, eh?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:13 AM
Feb 2013

His crew ain't done, apparently....I think we can say with some degree of certainty that the shoe tosser is a Sunni. He might even be from Tikrit.

But trying to insist that he is delivering a message from 'the Iraqi people?' Maybe the ones who are Sunni and benefited from the Ba'ath regime, but a huge population of Shi'a are delighted that Saddam is gone, and a lot of Kurds aren't arguing either.

Iraq is a frigging mess, but it's more transparent now. The brutality used to be hidden.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. No, I didn't come to that conclusion at all.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:22 PM
Feb 2013

You're the one who suggested "improvement." I certainly didn't.

Just because things are more apparent doesn't make them necessarily better.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
6. He deserved that.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:35 AM
Feb 2013

Starting an illegal and immoral war has consequences, even if it is just a shoe thrown at you.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
8. toss
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:20 AM
Feb 2013

Hi,
I wonder what happened to the guy. I'm surprised the idiot son could move quick enough to duck out of the way. An illegal and morally unjustified war while millions and millions are made by the criminal ruling class from it.

Peace

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
13. The second one came pretty close
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:21 AM
Feb 2013

Too bad he wasn't three legged, he might made the third one a charm.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
35. Yeah! It was pretty simple; used the actual images, with GW popping up & down & the
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:43 PM
Feb 2013

player clicked to throw the shoe.

I think some people complained about it, so it went away pretty quickly, because when you hit GW with the shoe that you just threw there was the BIG red SPLATTER complete with a squashing sound.

I actually agree with that critique, but then I personally remember JFK & Bobby Kennedy.

It felt VERY good to hit GW with the shoe, when you managed to do so, but there should probably be some result other than "blood".

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
7. When Bremmer starts to
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:57 AM
Feb 2013

have his say it sounded like he was telling the guy to his right that this has happened to him before. I like the part where he got to say FU a couple times.

I don't think it matters much if he was Sunni or Shi'a, Bush F'd Up his country and killed a bunch of his family, I'd throw shoes at that slimebag myself. Bremmer is the equivalent of an economic hit man and the conditions he was sent to Iraq to foist upon all the people of that country is so unbelievably criminal that that POS ought to be sitting in a cell in The Hague right now. Check out The Shock Doctrine, it exposes him as well as many of the other criminals of his ilk.

I'm glad to see that Bremmer gets called out on the whole thing.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Or a plastic OTAFUKU, very popular in the Middle East....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:29 PM
Feb 2013

They make lots of "slip on" shoes, and sandals, sold cheaply in the bazaars....

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
14. Was "Scoop" Jackson a militarist Commie-phobe?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:16 AM
Feb 2013

I was a preteenager when he was "doing his thing". During the period we wasted a lot of public money on Cold War weapons and wasted a lot of good will in places like Vietnam and Nicaragua.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
16. a hero of the neocons
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:59 AM
Feb 2013

a lot of the neocons call themselves "Scoop Jackson Democrats", they were actually Democrats and converted at some point, maybe around the time of the Reagan revolution. It's a good bet that the "Henry Jackson Society" is basically a neocon think tank.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
19. Congressmen who never said no to the aerospace-weapons-builders
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:33 PM
Feb 2013

I had high school teachers who were selling the same "message".

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
17. wow, we're coming on 10 years
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:02 AM
Feb 2013

surely their great glorious war will be commemorated in a big way, maybe on Iraq Statue Day?

Someone has apparently found Paul Bremer, now we need to find where the others are hiding: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, the "cakewalk" guy, I forgot his name, that other guy that's the "dumbest fucking guy on the planet", etc.

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