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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:09 PM Feb 2013

Sen. Graham Threatens To Delay Obama's Nominees For Defense, CIA Because Of Libya Attack

Source: Associated Press

ASSOCIATED PRESS | 0 minutes ago in Politics

A leading Republican senator is threatening to hold up Senate confirmation of President Barack Obama's nominees to lead the Pentagon and the CIA until the White House provides more answers about the Sept. 11 attack against a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya.

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham is angered by what he calls White House "stonewalling" about the attack that killed four Americans.

Graham tells CBS' "Face the Nation" that he'll hold up Senate action on the nominations of Chuck Hagel to be defense secretary and John Brennan to be CIA director until he gets what he wants from the White House.

Read more: http://www.newser.com/article/da4bsalg0/sen-graham-threatens-to-delay-obamas-nominees-for-defense-cia-because-of-libya-attack.html

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Sen. Graham Threatens To Delay Obama's Nominees For Defense, CIA Because Of Libya Attack (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
So Even If I Did Win Island Deac Feb 2013 #1
But you'd live near Colbert and have a chance to vote SaveAmerica Feb 2013 #20
He won't be senator for long. He'll be primaried out in 2014. MidwestTransplant Feb 2013 #31
How is that "deal" on filibuster going now Harry Reid awake Feb 2013 #2
He said on Face the Nation that he wasn't going to filibuster liberal N proud Feb 2013 #3
How can it be constitutional to put a "hold" on a president's nomination? awake Feb 2013 #6
The republicans have been about obstruction for 4 years now, maybe... liberal N proud Feb 2013 #24
I think I remember "holds" ReRe Feb 2013 #28
Well is it not about time we "grow a few balls" and stop it awake Feb 2013 #29
Well, as far as I know, the Dems in the Senate reelected Harry.... ReRe Feb 2013 #36
Thanks for the insight awake Feb 2013 #39
I'm far from an expert on the inner workings of the US Congress... ReRe Feb 2013 #41
Well the "Senate Democrats Vote to Oust Their Leader" in N.Y. State awake Feb 2013 #43
Wow... Farrrrrrrrrr Ouuuuuuut (as John Denver would say it) ReRe Feb 2013 #47
The answer is that the Democratic caucus could vote to replace Reid whenever they want, if they want onenote Feb 2013 #73
So I gather... ReRe Feb 2013 #75
Sure I'm frustrated onenote Feb 2013 #76
Hillary testified, Petraeus testified, Dempsey testified, Leon testified... TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #4
Their testimony is equivalent to ashling Feb 2013 #16
And there was a briefing, not a stage for questioning in which not all Congessional.members attended Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #53
All could have attended, if it is important to those who seems to not understand they should Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #71
Imagine just how angry Graham would have been about 9/11 Ezlivin Feb 2013 #5
here you go... kpete Feb 2013 #15
Yes, and he demanded answers and refused to budge until he got them nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #18
When is Graham going to investigate They_Live Feb 2013 #7
The last ambassador killed was in 1979. former9thward Feb 2013 #49
There have been many other times embassies have been attacked and lives lost. Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #52
I hoped there would be links provided. former9thward Feb 2013 #57
I found several links by doing a google search. Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #59
The poster I replied to said there were killings of embassy staff in the Bush years. former9thward Feb 2013 #66
Here you go. jaded_old_cynic Feb 2013 #60
Those involve local people getting killed. former9thward Feb 2013 #65
The poster jaded_old_cynic Feb 2013 #67
He was comparing "Bush embassy attacks"it to the Libya investigation. former9thward Feb 2013 #69
It seems you are the one playing word games. jaded_old_cynic Feb 2013 #70
Investigate away. former9thward Feb 2013 #72
Not Surprised titanicdave Feb 2013 #8
It's Whitewater All Over Again chuckstevens Feb 2013 #9
Are you saying we are going to get a bill for over 100 million dollars and nothing for it? Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #55
GOP Filibuster and Graham BE10sCoach Feb 2013 #10
Cry baby Graham lotsofsnowplease Feb 2013 #11
My vapid, petulant little senator DemoTex Feb 2013 #12
Old winbag will not let it go Coolest Ranger Feb 2013 #13
Can someone please out Graham already... nradisic Feb 2013 #14
Olde Sourpussy Lindsey Graham (R) having a Prissy Hissy Fit Berlum Feb 2013 #17
Let get his sent back to active duty to Lybia where he can ... Historic NY Feb 2013 #64
Graham, McCain, and Ayotte are useless windbags that should be drafted... onehandle Feb 2013 #19
Don't you wonder what the Republicans are holding over SaveAmerica Feb 2013 #21
Wanna bet he didnt hold up any nominations Bush made after it turned out that the intel cstanleytech Feb 2013 #22
Sen. Graham Threatens To Delay Obama's Nominees For Defense, CIA Because Of Libya Attack The CCC Feb 2013 #23
and Jefferson Beaureguard Sessions and Jim Inhofe to your list Botany Feb 2013 #30
Hagel's military record beats both Ayotte and Graham karynnj Feb 2013 #78
wtf does he want? barbtries Feb 2013 #25
FUCK YOU Blue Palasky Feb 2013 #26
I'm so glad Hairy Reed cured the filibuster. Fuddnik Feb 2013 #27
As noted above, this is different than a filibuster onenote Feb 2013 #74
What would happen if the nomination of Chuck Hagel was brought up for a vote awake Feb 2013 #32
In addtion, don't forget anyone OBAMA wants- they do not! malibea Feb 2013 #40
Bernie Sanders would object vehemently among other things onenote Feb 2013 #77
Lindsey is beating his chest Third Doctor Feb 2013 #33
Oh, gimme a goddam break DFW Feb 2013 #34
AMEN to the effing Amen! malibea Feb 2013 #37
Get off the b/s! malibea Feb 2013 #35
Benghazi Is A Remote Outpost DallasNE Feb 2013 #38
What Graham really wants is: vlyons Feb 2013 #42
Not sure what other answers there are. Clearly cutting funding was bad. end of story PatrynXX Feb 2013 #44
More bullshit obstructionism SpankMe Feb 2013 #45
Lindsay, in pearl-clutching apoplexy, musette_sf Feb 2013 #46
Can't someone make these parasites go away, PLEASE judesedit Feb 2013 #48
i hate this little fucker with a white hot passion.. frylock Feb 2013 #50
terrorists issue threats Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #51
Graham is such the popcorn fart I can hardly stand hearing the guy speak anymore,,,, benld74 Feb 2013 #54
Great lordsummerisle Feb 2013 #56
Senator you mean may nit have heard but we have had several mass shootings in the USA recently. Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #58
Obama needs to get on his bully pulpit about this LeftInTX Feb 2013 #61
I hoping he brings this up in his SOTU address Tuesday night. eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #62
he won't Blue Palasky Feb 2013 #63
These DEMS are cowards! malibea Feb 2013 #68

Island Deac

(104 posts)
1. So Even If I Did Win
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:15 PM
Feb 2013

the HGTV Dream Home in South Carolina, I would turn it down. It isn't worth having this "clown" as your Senator.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
20. But you'd live near Colbert and have a chance to vote
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:00 PM
Feb 2013

Graham out. I really yearn for that moment he is gone.

awake

(3,226 posts)
2. How is that "deal" on filibuster going now Harry Reid
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:18 PM
Feb 2013

Our problem is not the Repuks in the Senate it is our Leader or Non-Leader,it is time to get rid of Harry Reid.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
3. He said on Face the Nation that he wasn't going to filibuster
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:20 PM
Feb 2013

Just that he wouldn't allow a vote. Don't know what the difference is but that is how the clown from the south put it.

awake

(3,226 posts)
6. How can it be constitutional to put a "hold" on a president's nomination?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:28 PM
Feb 2013

The Senate has the right to give "advise and consent" the Constitution no where say that one or a few Senators can put a hold on a nominee. We need to grow some balls and charge anyone who tries to prevent a vote on a nominee with obstruction.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
24. The republicans have been about obstruction for 4 years now, maybe...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:26 PM
Feb 2013

if they keep doubling down with their obstruction tactics, the voters will punish them sever ly in 2014.

Assholes like Graham keep getting more extreme and it is becoming harder for the M$M to give them the green light.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
28. I think I remember "holds"
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:34 PM
Feb 2013

in the Senate. And it was holds on many many many of POs nominees.

awake

(3,226 posts)
29. Well is it not about time we "grow a few balls" and stop it
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:38 PM
Feb 2013

If Harry Reid will not stop it then it is time that we replace him with someone with the backbone to do the right thing

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
36. Well, as far as I know, the Dems in the Senate reelected Harry....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:50 PM
Feb 2013

...as Majority Leader. They probably did that the first day of the 113th Congress, no? And if so, they had no idea that Harry was going to go back on his word to change the filibuster rules. Remember, that little filibuster discussion and agreement wasn't worked out until after the Inauguration, with Mitch McConnell. Or that's how Harry made it appear. I, personally, think the filibuster business was worked out before or maybe ON Inauguration Day. Did you watch tie Inauguration? As Harry walked out to the balcony with Nancy and others, he looked physically ill. It worried me, as my mind shot back to PO's first Inauguration luncheon, when Ted Kennedy had to be taken out on a stretcher. Now, here was Harry acting like he could barely keep up, looking down the whole way out. I really was worried about him. So, OK... then comes the luncheon. Schumer toasted Joe Biden first, and then comes Harry Reid's turn to toast PO. I guess it took him a while to get up and walk to the front to give the toast, but he finally got up there. He sat his champagne goblet down behind him and read the toast, not smiling or looking up. It was not rememberable, And then he just walked off. He did not click glasses with the President! He left his glass behind where he had set it down. Huh? I found it very rude of Harry. I can imagine what Schumer said to him later. Anyway, his behavior that day was an omen in my eyes. What was up with Harry? Then we found out that he had caved on his promises to change the filibuster. Coincidence?

awake

(3,226 posts)
39. Thanks for the insight
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:09 PM
Feb 2013

As far as I know the Majority Leader can be replaced any time the majority wants to replace him(or her as the case may be someday)

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
41. I'm far from an expert on the inner workings of the US Congress...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:23 PM
Feb 2013

...i.e., not a parliamentarian. So I hope you're right and they DO IT!. Really, I didn't know that they could get rid of the Majority Leader any time for any excuse. Now, if he/she does something that is totally reprehensible, and against the rules of the house, then I think they can replace him...you know, like TOM DELAY.

awake

(3,226 posts)
43. Well the "Senate Democrats Vote to Oust Their Leader" in N.Y. State
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:32 PM
Feb 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/nyregion/senate-democrats-in-albany-replace-their-leader.html?_r=0

"Democrats in the State Senate, smarting over their inability to take control of the chamber despite winning a numerical majority, on Monday ousted their leader, John L. Sampson of Brooklyn, and replaced him with Andrea Stewart-Cousins of Westchester County."

So if they can do it in New York State I would think it can be done in D.C.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
47. Wow... Farrrrrrrrrr Ouuuuuuut (as John Denver would say it)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:15 PM
Feb 2013

You would think, wouldn't you? Well hey, let's find out. Bet you we could get an answer from Bernie in short order if we wrote or called him?

onenote

(42,714 posts)
73. The answer is that the Democratic caucus could vote to replace Reid whenever they want, if they want
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013

But they don't want. That's because they understand what therole of the majority leader is. The majority leader sets the agenda which means working with Democrats with different priorities to find a happy medium. And his job is to count votes. If the votes aren't there to accomplish a particular objective, he's not going to pursue it, which was the case with filibuster reform. It never had a majority and even more telling, it didn't have the support of many of the most senior Democrats in the Senate, the members that Reid is going to listen to most closely.

I haven't heard a single member suggest that they think Reid should be replaced, which suggests its not going to happen no matter how much table pounding occurs here at DU.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
75. So I gather...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:13 PM
Feb 2013

...that you are not frustrated by what happened in PO's first term, re all the filibustering by the Minority in the Senate? Well, I guess we're up a creek without a paddle, no recourse. Thanks for your reply to my questions...

onenote

(42,714 posts)
76. Sure I'm frustrated
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:18 PM
Feb 2013

but filibuster reform is not an easy question. While the repubs are abusing the filibuster process, Democrats have used it in the past to block odious legislation and nominees and since the odds that the Democrats will hold the Senate forever are slim and none, I'm worried what will happen if its eliminated. Sure, the repubs, if and when they regain control of the senate could attempt to get rid of the filibuster, but they've had that opportunity in the past and they've blinked for much the same reason that many senior Democrats have blinked -- they take the long view.

Plus, getting rid of the filibuster isn't going to have a significant impact in terms of getting legislation passed. The House will remain a bottleneck. As an example, just consider the Violence Against Women Act. Its gotten through the Senate, but if it gets through the House at all its going to be with a bunch of killing amendments (just like last Congress).

That's not to say that there aren't changes that can and should be made to the Senate's procedural rules. Its just that the issue is more nuanced than some realize, which is why so many of the most senior Democrats didn't sign on to the recent proposal.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. Hillary testified, Petraeus testified, Dempsey testified, Leon testified...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:27 PM
Feb 2013

they have all the answers they're going to get, and they know it. This seems to be an excuse for more time to keep fishing for dirt on one certain nominee--we all know the GOP really hearts Brennan the Drone Warrior and will confirm him eagerly.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
53. And there was a briefing, not a stage for questioning in which not all Congessional.members attended
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 06:55 PM
Feb 2013

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
71. All could have attended, if it is important to those who seems to not understand they should
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:48 PM
Feb 2013

Have made arrangements to attend. There was security personnel in attendance to further explain what was occurring. Perhaps the questions of real time video would not have been ask if the Senators attended the briefing instead of getting their information from reporters who had the wrong information. Sometimes information is given in a briefing which should not go out to the general public and I am sure the,Senators are aware of this also. It is all about theatricals, they are playing to their base and do a very poor job of fooling perhaps anyone but their base and themselves. I guess 8% approval rate is not low enough for them.

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
5. Imagine just how angry Graham would have been about 9/11
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:27 PM
Feb 2013

And the failure of top leadership.

I'll bet he was furious.

Wasn't he?

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
18. Yes, and he demanded answers and refused to budge until he got them
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:51 PM
Feb 2013

Oh, wait...

No, they just launched a war against a country that had nothing to do with it.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
57. I hoped there would be links provided.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:16 PM
Feb 2013

I guess that is too much to hope for. Can't wait for the "Do your own homework!" post.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
59. I found several links by doing a google search.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:42 PM
Feb 2013

Since there was an ambassador killed in 1979 the link I am providing contains some of that information. I thought it was common knowledge we have had several attacks since 9/11 but good luck with your homework.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/114173/are

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
66. The poster I replied to said there were killings of embassy staff in the Bush years.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:09 PM
Feb 2013

Your link does not support that.

jaded_old_cynic

(190 posts)
67. The poster
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:47 PM
Feb 2013

The poster They Live did not say anything in his/her post about embassy staff being killed. The question was; "When is Graham going to investigate all of the Bush era embassy attacks and the deaths that resulted?" The word "staff" does not appear in any part of that question. You inserted that yourself after the fact.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
69. He was comparing "Bush embassy attacks"it to the Libya investigation.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:50 PM
Feb 2013

Where the ambassador and staff were killed. As you well know. Don't play word games with me. It doesn't work.

jaded_old_cynic

(190 posts)
70. It seems you are the one playing word games.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Feb 2013

I was merely posting a link to American embassy attacks and the resultant deaths. So because no staff died, the other deaths under the bush era attacks don't warrant an investigation? .

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
72. Investigate away.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:52 PM
Feb 2013

What one has to do with the other I don't know. I don't favor cover ups no matter who is in charge.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
8. Not Surprised
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
Feb 2013

that Senator Jerkwater from a southern red state would do this........get your stuff together and do what is right for the country, you dip wad

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
9. It's Whitewater All Over Again
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:31 PM
Feb 2013

Keep fishing and hopefully something will turn up to score cheap political points. Whatever it is, the GOP and Faux News will hype it into being bigger than Watergate.

Our the American people so stupid that they have forgotten that it was Bush and Cheney who had a major "intelligence failure" that cost the US over 4,000 American lives on 9/11, over 5,000 US soldier deaths in a war that they intensionally lied the nation into, over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilian deaths, and trillions of dollars of our money that made their rich friends even wealthier, all while destroying the US economy? Get to the bottom of Libya? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

I wish we had an attorney General would turn the tables ans start investigation people like Graham, McConnell, Isa, etc. What an unbelievable joke it all is!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
55. Are you saying we are going to get a bill for over 100 million dollars and nothing for it?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:02 PM
Feb 2013

And then the repubs will talk about how much money the Democrats spend. They forget about the two billion a week spent on a senseless war. Yea, just keep spending.

BE10sCoach

(48 posts)
10. GOP Filibuster and Graham
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:32 PM
Feb 2013

First Mr. Leader, inact filibuster common sense and real talking filibuster rules! The Republican are nothing more that obstructionists and learned nothing from the last election, so further and further they will drop into minority status. As for "Twinkle Toes" Lindsey Graham, please come out of the closet, the Log Cabin Republicans need you as a national spokesman!

 

lotsofsnowplease

(19 posts)
11. Cry baby Graham
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:33 PM
Feb 2013

This guy is a fucking piece of shit whine baby loser. He is just one example of why the people of the world do not like FUCKING REPIGLICANS!!!

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
12. My vapid, petulant little senator
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:34 PM
Feb 2013

Even the ultra-right upstate of SC is tiring of this little prick.

nradisic

(1,362 posts)
14. Can someone please out Graham already...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:41 PM
Feb 2013

That would seal his fate with the God-hates-fags crowd and get rid off him once and for all. There are 3 Senators I cannot stand: McConnell, Graham and McCain. I can't wait until they go away for ever...

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
17. Olde Sourpussy Lindsey Graham (R) having a Prissy Hissy Fit
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:51 PM
Feb 2013

..over doodley squat. As usual. These whiney RepubliWankers all need MET (Massive Enema Therapy) to rid them of their Inner ChickenShit.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
19. Graham, McCain, and Ayotte are useless windbags that should be drafted...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

...and parachuted into Tehran.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
21. Don't you wonder what the Republicans are holding over
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:03 PM
Feb 2013

his head that allows them to pull his strings for whatever they want? Some pictures?

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
22. Wanna bet he didnt hold up any nominations Bush made after it turned out that the intel
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:08 PM
Feb 2013

over Iraq having WMDs was false?

The CCC

(463 posts)
23. Sen. Graham Threatens To Delay Obama's Nominees For Defense, CIA Because Of Libya Attack
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:16 PM
Feb 2013

Lindsey Graham... JAG officer with a Reserve grade of Colonel.
John McCain...Pilot in Vietnam.
Kelly Ayotte...Husband in military.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
30. and Jefferson Beaureguard Sessions and Jim Inhofe to your list
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:41 PM
Feb 2013

Sessions is named after 2 people who wanted to destroy the United States. Gen. P.T. Beauregard and
C.S.A. President Jefferson Davis both of whom thought owning human beings was a good idea and
that United States should no longer exist.

And Inhofe just because he is a douche bag who said that nobody in his family is gay or divorced.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
74. As noted above, this is different than a filibuster
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:11 PM
Feb 2013

Holds are an informal practice of longstanding in the Senate that have frequently been used by Senators of both parties. In fact, Bernie Sanders has used holds against President Obama's nominees on more than one occasion. Carl Levin also placed a hold on at least one Obama nominee (first term nominee for undersecretary of Defense).

By putting a hold on a nomination, a Senator can slow its progress but in the end, holds are not a tool for preventing a nomination from reaching the floor. That would take a filibuster and it appears clear from what is known at this point that there are sufficient votes to break any attempted filibuster of either Hagel or Brennan.

awake

(3,226 posts)
32. What would happen if the nomination of Chuck Hagel was brought up for a vote
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:55 PM
Feb 2013

and Sen. Lindsey Graham's "hold" was ignored as being unconstitutional? We should force the wacko right to defend themselves and stop them from hiding behind "rules" of the Senate. We are talking about a war hero being smeared by a bunch of chicken-hawks! The real reason that the right does not want Chuck Hagel is that his is not a "NeoCon" who thinks that the only answer is to start a war when and where ever they can.

malibea

(179 posts)
40. In addtion, don't forget anyone OBAMA wants- they do not!
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:15 PM
Feb 2013

The basic reason the repugs do not want this nominee, Hagel, for "dogcatcher" is that the President wants him. It would not matter what the position was, which I refer to here as "dogcatcher". It could also be referred to with the same outcome as "cat herder"! Same difference. These actions and behaviors are so stupid, knee-jerk, and definitely racist. I don't know what else to call it besides racist. I have seen party opposition, but this is beyond that. In addition, Hagel is a republican!

And for people to continue to vote for these racist assholes make them as racist as their representatives. It is no way these repugnants could win re-election if their constituency were not racist. It is a shame to always continue to say, but it is true. I am also tired of beating a dead horse but there is no other way to see it or say it.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
77. Bernie Sanders would object vehemently among other things
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:46 PM
Feb 2013

Bernie has used holds against several of President Obama's nominees, including Bernanke, so I doubt that he would sit silently if the practice was labelled unconstitutional.

Its an informal practice that is effectively enshrined in the Senate's rules. It doesn't block a vote from occurring -- only a filibuster can do that. It simply slows the process down. I suspect that Reid will allow Graham to have his hold for a couple of days and then move for cloture, which from everything I've read, will pass and the confirmation vote will occur.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
33. Lindsey is beating his chest
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:02 PM
Feb 2013

because the nuts back in SC are thinking about primaring him. This issue has been explained and done to death but the GOP is still clawing at this straw. This is Reid and the senators that would not support reform's fault. I really hope he does not run in 2016.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
34. Oh, gimme a goddam break
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:12 PM
Feb 2013

The Republicans were going to hold up Obama's nominees no matter what. They've been doing that since day one, so don't any of their sleazebag teabaggers try to tell us that this is a response to anything recent. This is their response to America having preferred Barack Obama to their guy (now twice in a row), and to nothing else.

malibea

(179 posts)
37. AMEN to the effing Amen!
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:52 PM
Feb 2013

You called it correct! Everybody should know what is up by now- and if they don't they have slept for the last 4-1/2 years or are definitely in denial.

malibea

(179 posts)
35. Get off the b/s!
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:48 PM
Feb 2013

Come on- do these repugnants think that for a minute it matters what they think happened in Libya-or anywhere else for that matter! They don't care about any person, or persons, let alone anybody in Libya. It is just a bullspit stall tactic intent upon never, ever confirming any of the President's nominees. I don't think the President should put any of his nominees at the mercy of these gutless, shameless, stupid repugnant son of a bitches! The President should go ahead and save everyone some time and probably some money, by appointing whomever he wants to serve in whatever position. I know it is in the U.S. Constituion that the appointees should come before certain committees for benefit of "questioning", but what these lousy repugnants do is so stupid and asinine, it has become a pitiful little GAME! Geez, enough of this bullcrap.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
38. Benghazi Is A Remote Outpost
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:02 PM
Feb 2013

In a dangerous part of the world where, unfortunately, 4 American's were killed in a terrorist attack. But in the scope of things this is small in scale and rather unimportant. Yes, you want to quietly evaluate what happened and take steps to assure that we are better prepared to defend against this kind of action in the future but make no mistake, this has already gotten 1000 times the attention it deserves. Besides, this is not much bigger than a roadside bomb that blows up and kills 4.

What I want to know is why CBS even had Graham on today as he is on almost as much as McCain. In fact, those two are on TV more than all Democrats combined. And they never do anything but rehash the same thing they said the week before. Check it out, how many weeks in a row has Graham been on TV talking about nothing but Benghazi. It is just plain silly and needs to stop. It is like the non-stop coverage Joseph McCarthy got in the early 1950's.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
42. What Graham really wants is:
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:28 PM
Feb 2013

for Obama to drop his pants, bend over, and take it in the you-know-where. I hate Lindsey Graham. I do believe that he gets more and more obnoxious with every passing year--if such a thing is possible

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
44. Not sure what other answers there are. Clearly cutting funding was bad. end of story
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:57 PM
Feb 2013

so alas they want to risk our security just to find some tiny speck where they can blame Obama. Crap at this rate we shoulda held longer hearings on the corrupted voting machines in 2004. Certainly a bigger story than Libyans fighting for us. sheesh.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
45. More bullshit obstructionism
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:59 PM
Feb 2013

1. Tell the Whitehouse you'll hold up their nominees until they answer all of your questions.

2. Ask questions that are rhetorical and/or unanswerable. Or, imply you have questions that aren't being answered, even though you haven't formulated the questions yet.

3. Profit!

The Dems aren't doing enough to expose this MO. They won't get my vote or donations any more until they start playing some hardball and winning these things. They won this election decisively. They need to move the agenda forward. Right now.

judesedit

(4,439 posts)
48. Can't someone make these parasites go away, PLEASE
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:12 PM
Feb 2013

Who the hell does Graham think he i? He's a do-nothing Congressman is all. I'm sick of this bs where one asshole can hold up everything. How old is that coot anyway? Obama should tell Graham-cracker, he'll get more answers after they hold a rigorous interrogation on 9/11 and embassy attacks during the Bushco fiasco and no sooner. Get these parasites outta there, please, people.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
50. i hate this little fucker with a white hot passion..
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:32 PM
Feb 2013

I hope the baggers primary his ass to absolute obscurity.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
58. Senator you mean may nit have heard but we have had several mass shootings in the USA recently.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:28 PM
Feb 2013

What is I you plans to investigate these incidents. I want you to place as much importance on the mass killings as you are to Benghazi and put forth measures to get the gun violence in the USA under control. You think you can hide behind the NRA, guess what we are going to target the Congress members who refuse to regulate weapons of war on our streets. We are following your actions, watch out for the sane voters, we are coming after you.

LeftInTX

(25,376 posts)
61. Obama needs to get on his bully pulpit about this
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:38 PM
Feb 2013

Also, the other Dems need to get on their bully pulpits. These guys are like Sen. McCarthy from the 50s. Ted Cruz is saying that Hagel has ties to Hamas.

Please Dems get on your bully pulpits. Expose these unpatriotic frauds.

 

Blue Palasky

(81 posts)
63. he won't
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:01 PM
Feb 2013

he'll praise the fucks for the "bipartisan" bullshit they were able to get passed. then talk about the need for more, stronger bipartisanship.

malibea

(179 posts)
68. These DEMS are cowards!
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:50 PM
Feb 2013

Well, we got rid of of some/most of the Blue Dog democrats but apparently NOT ALL OF THEM! I have always seen this cowardice in the Dems for a long time and from 99% of them, but it makes me sick that these elected democrats do not support nor sponsor any of the Presidents' policies or mantras.

In addition, do these democrats ever campaign for their own re-election-- or do they just continue to ride on the coattails of the President as they have done in the past? Well, the joy ride and "freebie" is over since the President cannot run again.

As I have said in the past, "with friends like this (Dems) who needs enemies (repugnants)?"

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