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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:01 PM Feb 2013

Sheriff’s Official: Dorner Died Of Gunshot Wound To Head

Source: CBS Los Angeles

Capt. Kevin Lacy of the San Bernardino County Sheriff-Coroner said a 6-hour autopsy conducted by the Riverside County Coroner’s Division showed that Dorner died of a single gunshot wound to the head.

“During the autopsy yesterday, the doctor who conducted the process, concluded that the cause of death was a single gunshot wound to the head,” Lacy said, adding that officials are not yet ready to comment on the manner of his death.

“We will tell you that while we’re still compiling the information and putting our reports together, the information that we have right now seems to indicate that the wound that took Christopher Dorner’s life was self-inflicted,” Lacy said.

Read more: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/15/sheriff-john-mcmahon-dorner-died-from-gunshot-to-head/



Cue the cover up conspiracy allegations based on . . . nothing.
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Sheriff’s Official: Dorner Died Of Gunshot Wound To Head (Original Post) geek tragedy Feb 2013 OP
That fits the circumstantial evidence from that evening. longship Feb 2013 #1
It's what everyone not emotionally invested in condemning the police geek tragedy Feb 2013 #2
Yep. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #9
He took on the entire 10,000 member LA police department. He knew that he would die. What a coward. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #11
LAPD wasn't involved in his death. n/t ColesCountyDem Feb 2013 #13
Your assertion doesn't change the fact that he took on the entire 10,000 member police force. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #15
"Instead of being cooked alive." FALSE. He shot himself instead of surrendering geek tragedy Feb 2013 #16
If only the two pickup-driving women, and the pickup-driving surfer, had submitted to the cops, AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #17
Those cops are to blame for what they did and didn't do. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #18
Don't waste your time MindPilot Feb 2013 #35
I said what I meant, plain and simple. ColesCountyDem Feb 2013 #25
Plain and simple, you said "LAPD wasn't involved in his death" which is obviously not true. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #29
It obviously IS true that LAPD wasn't involved in his death. ColesCountyDem Feb 2013 #33
Killing those people was cowardly Mz Pip Feb 2013 #24
He didn't "take on" anybody. Unless you count an unarmed college student and her fiancee, who were msanthrope Feb 2013 #30
Ayuh! + one zillion. graham4anything Feb 2013 #27
+a million graham4anything Feb 2013 #26
Speaking of being emotionally invested... MindPilot Feb 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #36
Jesus, I ask politely MindPilot Feb 2013 #37
The coroner would be able to determine smoke and fire damage to the lungs nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #3
6 hour autopsy is pretty thorough, especially if there is a gunshot wound to the cranium. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #4
Rampant Corruption montex Feb 2013 #5
Of course. If a finding makes too much sense, it must be fake.Nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #6
"some will refuse to believe the report." nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #8
Except if there wasn't anything in it to hide. caseymoz Feb 2013 #10
Not emotionally involved either way.... it's just plain sad lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #7
Slight correction to your post OnlinePoker Feb 2013 #12
Mr. Dorner seemed ambivalent about escaping, but he was never willing to be taken alive. bemildred Feb 2013 #14
I admit I thought he would go out guns blazing at the cops geek tragedy Feb 2013 #19
I also thought for sure that he was going to suicide by cop. Light House Feb 2013 #20
Yeah, the old Butch and Sundance thing, but as I was saying, I don't think that's what he wanted. bemildred Feb 2013 #21
I don't know that we'll ever know what exactly he wanted. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #22
Seems unlikely. bemildred Feb 2013 #23
Yes we do. He wanted to be remembered. Too bad the press released his name. graham4anything Feb 2013 #28
You don't really want to censor the names of assassins, do you? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #31
Yes, I do. No need to know their names. graham4anything Feb 2013 #32

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. That fits the circumstantial evidence from that evening.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:12 PM
Feb 2013

As reported on scanners, as reported here on DU and live reportage.

A single shot. Then no more. The fire started about that same time.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
15. Your assertion doesn't change the fact that he took on the entire 10,000 member police force.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:50 PM
Feb 2013

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, he also knew that additinal police agencies would be involved and he took them on as well.

Your statement that the "LAPD wasn't involved in his death" doesn't make sense unless you only mean that the LAPD wasn't on the scene at the time of his death. Obviously, it continued to be involved with running him down and letting it be known through their actions that they had no intention of trying to capture him alive and ensuring his safety if he surrendered to police authorities.

So instead of being cooked alive, he chose to shoot himself. It is obviously irrational to say that a person who openly takes on entire police department and all the police agencies in the area is a coward.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. "Instead of being cooked alive." FALSE. He shot himself instead of surrendering
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:54 PM
Feb 2013

and submitting himself to the authority of the cops he hated so much. He had the option of leaving the cabin.

The LAPD did not prevent him for surrendering peacefully. Only Chris Dorner did that.

He was real brave shooting that unarmed young woman. Real brave hiding like a rat.

When it came time to face the consequences of his action and turn himself in to face trial, he punked out instead.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
17. If only the two pickup-driving women, and the pickup-driving surfer, had submitted to the cops,
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

maybe their pickups wouldn't have been shot up, and their lives put at risk, by trigger-happy cops.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Those cops are to blame for what they did and didn't do.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:03 PM
Feb 2013

Chris Dorner is responsible for everything he did (killing five people including himself) and what he did not do--he did not take responsibility for what he did and turn himself in to face the legal process. He had a week to do walk into any church, any media outlet, any McDonalds and put his hands on his head and say "tell the police I'm here. Someone get this on film. I'm unarmed."



He wasn't brave enough to wind up in a court room with the families of those he butchered without his guns.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
35. Don't waste your time
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:06 PM
Feb 2013

You are dealing with people who worship authority and for whom the police are god-like and infallible.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
29. Plain and simple, you said "LAPD wasn't involved in his death" which is obviously not true.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:08 AM
Feb 2013

The LAPD was involved with the chase since the beginning. It did not publicly invite him to turn himself in while guaranting that the LAPD would not immediately try to kill him.

The LAPD was in on the chase.

When there is a fox hunt, the lead dogs are not the only ones involved in the hunt.

If you believe that anyone has interpreted your words in a way that you did not intend, all you have to do is look at the sequence of posts. The post at #9 called him a coward. At #11, I used a 10,000 number to show that he took on overwhelming odds. At #13, you changed the subject by saying "LAPD wasn't involved in his death." At #15, I responded by writing, in part, "Your assertion doesn't change the fact that he took on the entire 10,000 member police force."

Nobody misinterpreted your words.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
24. Killing those people was cowardly
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:45 PM
Feb 2013

What a brave guy to take out innocent people and to threaten to take out more.

That sealed his fate more than his manifesto.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
30. He didn't "take on" anybody. Unless you count an unarmed college student and her fiancee, who were
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:37 AM
Feb 2013

sitting in car in a parking garage. He ambushed them, and murdered them.

Then he ambushed two cops sitting at a stoplight in Riverside.

That's not "taking on" anyone--or perhaps you could point to the brave act which you think personifies the outrageous claim:

He took on the entire 10,000 member LA police department. He knew that he would die.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
34. Speaking of being emotionally invested...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:03 PM
Feb 2013

Take your cop-loving authoritarianism and hold your little LAPD appreciation group meeting someplace else.

Thank you.

Response to MindPilot (Reply #34)

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
3. The coroner would be able to determine smoke and fire damage to the lungs
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:16 PM
Feb 2013

and air passages. I hope this proves that he was not burned alive, not that some will refuse to believe the report.

 

montex

(93 posts)
5. Rampant Corruption
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:57 PM
Feb 2013

Unfortunately, the LA Police department is so incredibly corrupt, there isn't any way to believe them, or a coroner under their influence. We'll never know what the real story was about because they've buried everything under a code of silence. In short, I don't trust a thing they say.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
10. Except if there wasn't anything in it to hide.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:32 AM
Feb 2013

I don't know. Why would things look any better or worse about the LAPD if he burned to death instead? What would they have to hide here? That they took him into custody, shot him in the head, then dumped him back in the cabin and burned it down to make it look like, what?

Everybody already knew Dorner would be killed, that he had about a ten percent chance of making it to trial. He would either fight to death, or police would kill him in custody for being a cop killer and a first rate dick. And he would do the former because he knew the latter would likely happen. So, giving out a cover story about the cabin would do what for them?

The LAPD already looks pretty bad already. People don't go through the effort to cover up things when the outcome doesn't make a difference.
 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
7. Not emotionally involved either way.... it's just plain sad
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:26 AM
Feb 2013

No matter which side of the debate you take... it is just plain sad... sad that people were killed, sad that the USA has devolved to this.

Any one who has ever applied for a job at LAPD know how strenuous the application process is. It is no easy task.

Dorner was a Captain in the Naval Reserve... again.. no easy task.

Dorner was (or could be viewed) as the "Cream of the crop" of police recruits.

To see how this process went wrong.. has to ring a wake-up alarm.. somewhere in the process?

We need to look at what we are doing on the world stage. We need to review how police are treating tax-payer Citizens. We need to question what our Military is doing in 135 Countries around the globe.

It's far passed the time.. to take care of America first.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
12. Slight correction to your post
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 04:03 AM
Feb 2013

He was a Lieutenant (O-3) in the Naval Reserve, 3 ranks below Captain.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. Mr. Dorner seemed ambivalent about escaping, but he was never willing to be taken alive.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:27 AM
Feb 2013

So I think in the end he kind of got what he wanted, a big dramatic showdown in which he was overwhelmed by superior force on 24x7 TV.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. I admit I thought he would go out guns blazing at the cops
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:11 PM
Feb 2013

rather than deciding to kill himself to avoid the indignity of having cops shoot him.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
21. Yeah, the old Butch and Sundance thing, but as I was saying, I don't think that's what he wanted.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:15 PM
Feb 2013

I wondered about that at the time.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
23. Seems unlikely.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:34 PM
Feb 2013

We have the manifesto and what we can discern of his activities between then and his demise.

However, if he simply wanted to escape, he had many chances to go for it and did not. And he left a number witnesses alive behind him, in fact that's how he got nailed. He did not want to be apprehended, but he was not planning to go away or to end his vendetta either. He seemed to go back and forth, first he'd shoot somebody and then go wait to be chased, but they never found him when he was hiding, only when he went after them or was running. And he had to know once he hid in that house it was all over.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
28. Yes we do. He wanted to be remembered. Too bad the press released his name.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:06 AM
Feb 2013

this is why NO killer or assasssin or terrorist should be named.

Fame makes people do things, no matter if its good or bad.

Look at the wipearse that asssasssinated John Lennon.
Some people now put the two names together, as if they were equals.

It's why we celebrate Dr. King's BIRTHDAY and not the day he died.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
32. Yes, I do. No need to know their names.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:56 PM
Feb 2013

They want fame.

Not releasing their name means cults don't start with people idolizing them.

Dorner was a corrupt cop turned vigilante terrorist.

The world would be better off not having facebook fanclubs for him.

Same with any of the people in the past who did horrible things with guns and other non-life affirming equiptment.

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