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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:26 AM Feb 2013

The PowerPoint That Proves It’s Not Obama’s Sequester After All

Source: Daily Beast

It’s a PowerPoint presentation that Boehner’s office developed with the Republican Policy Committee and sent out to the Capitol Hill GOP on July 31, 2011. Intended to explain the outline of the proposed debt deal, the presentation is titled: “Two Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable.”

It’s essentially an internal sales document from the old dealmaker Boehner to his unruly and often unreasonable Tea Party cohort. But it’s clear as day in the presentation that “sequestration” was considered a cudgel to guarantee a reduction in federal spending—the conservatives’ necessary condition for not having America default on its obligations.

The presentation lays out the deal in clear terms, describing the spending backstop as “automatic across-the-board cuts (‘sequestration’). Same mechanism used in 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.”

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And that’s pretty much exactly what’s scheduled to start happening on March 1. Democrats could just as easily spin this as “Boehner’s Sequester” or “Cantor’s Sequester” and offer indelible digital evidence to back up their claim.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/20/the-powerpoint-that-proves-it-s-not-obama-s-sequester-after-all.html



Here is nice bit evidence that has come out that blows a hole in the Republican/Fox News talking point of trying to blame the sequester on President Obama. Of course, this is in addition to video clips showing Cantor and Boehner bragging about the passage of the sequester. The amazing thing is that the mainstream media does not immediately slap down Republicans for pushing this demonstrably false talking point that ignores the role of Republicans of putting the Nation on the verge of default as leverage for the sequester.
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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
1. ''The amazing thing is that the mainstream media does not slap down....''
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:14 AM
Feb 2013
- Not amazing. Amazing would be if they did......

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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Not only that, they let Boehner get away with calling it 'Obama's Sequester.'
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 03:11 AM
Feb 2013

The bias of the media is so blatant now, they are ALL Fox News. I see no to little difference om any of them, even if they wave a token 'liberal' in our faces to seduce us into watching the other 99.999% conservative slop. The stuff served up on television in the fifties was like being slowly suffocated. This is much worse.


 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
14. As difficult as I know it is for most to admit......
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 03:03 PM
Feb 2013

...but we have now crossed-over into the beginnings of the very dystopian world that Orwell and Huxley wrote about. We've actually been in it for quite some time now, but we didn't see it as well. Because they no longer go to the lengths they once did in order to hide it from us.



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. But it's not time to give up. Despite the hierarchal nature of this, we must work in our own world.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 03:05 PM
Feb 2013
 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
2. Maddow showed the video of Ryan boasting about the sequester
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 02:40 AM
Feb 2013

and then another video of him blaming Obama for it.

And the media continues to whine about not being invited to a golf game.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Media have divorced themselves from their proper role in our society.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 03:03 AM
Feb 2013

They're now folks who carry gossip and direction our attention to shiny things.

Sometimes, they are propagandists.

Almost never are they journalists worthy of respect.

Finally, with all due respect to untrained citizen journalists, about 95% of them are nowhere near as good as they believe they are.

Purplehazed

(179 posts)
4. But Obama does own it.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 02:58 AM
Feb 2013

It's a pretty sleazy bit of legislation on the part of the Republicans but Obama accepted it and signed it into law. He is the head of state, the leader of our country! He better own it. That's what leaders do. That's what makes him responsible to bring the nitwits in congress to some kind of consensus and resolve this fregin mess.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
8. So, shouldn't Boehner own it as well?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:52 AM
Feb 2013

And don't Republicans bear a responsibility for trying to resolve it as well?

I think the problem is that Republicans are given a free pass. They demand that President Obama "show leadership" by trying bid against himself and read their mind and come up with a plan that makes him happy. Of course, they never are. This is why I think President Obama is doing the right thing by setting forth his proposed plan, and waiting for Republicans to say what they want with respect to cuts to entitlements.

Purplehazed

(179 posts)
10. Certainly Republicans bear responsibility
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:02 PM
Feb 2013

They should pay dearly in the midterm elections for being entrenched in ideology over the realities of running a nation. However, if there is a successful outcome to this budget debacle, were not going to give a ticker tape parade for the Republicans/teabaggers. The White will, and rightly so, take the credit. Similarly if there is a failure, the executive branch will have to accept accountability and thus be ultimately responsible.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
12. If I'm not mistaken
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:23 PM
Feb 2013

the deal he signed had the language in it that averted the default on the nation's debt last year... so was he supposed to allow the nation to default on its obligations? You might try seeing the grey in the matter instead of focusing on the black and whites of it.

The rethugs are wholly and totally responsible for where this is right now--they refuse to adopt revenue increases from the wealthy and corporations. The "American people" they're talking about are those who fund their re-election campaigns, not those who are going to be quite hurt by this.

When Ryan, Boehner and those of their ilk sat around last summer in their circle jerk behind their sequestration victory, they were pleased as punch that finally, they'd be able to throw social programs overboard and leave a lot of people to shift for themselves. Now that we're less than a week away from that happening and they see that their policy is failing before their eyes, it's now President Obama's problem. No, not hardly. And the American public sees that clearly.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. The story has been updated to include Boehner's response.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 03:10 AM
Feb 2013

I don't think the story disproves or is inconsistent with Boehner's version.

The plan may well have originated with the Republicans, but this story is not definitive proof that it did.

Maybe's Maddow's film clips are. I don't know. I did not see those.

ETA: After I posted, I saw this, FWIW:


The bill was the final chance in a series of proposals to resolve the 2011 United States debt-ceiling crisis, which featured bitter divisions between the parties and also pronounced splits within them. Earlier ideas included the Obama-Boehner $4 trillion "Grand Bargain",[13] the House Republican Cut, Cap and Balance Act, and the McConnell-Reid "Plan B" fallback. All eventually failed to gain enough general political or specific Congressional support to move into law, as the midnight August 2, 2011, deadline for an unprecedented U.S. sovereign default drew nearer and nearer.[14]

Ultimately, the solution came from White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling, who, on July 12, 2011, proposed a compulsory trigger that would go into effect if another agreement was not made on tax increases and/or budget cuts equal to or greater than the the debt ceiling increase by a future date. The intent was to secure the commitment of both sides to future negotiation by means of an enforcement mechanism that would be unpalatable to Republicans and Democrats alike. President Obama agreed to the plan. House Speaker John Boehner expressed reservations, but also agreed.[15]

On July 26, 2011, White House Budget Director Jack Lew and White House Legislative Affairs Director Rob Nabors met with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to discuss the plan. Reid, like Boehner several days before, was initially opposed to the idea, but was eventually convinced to go along with it, with the understanding that the sequester was intended as an enforcement tool rather than a true budget proposal. [16]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_Control_Act_of_2011

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
13. The President should show this at a news conference?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:28 PM
Feb 2013
Maybe the Fox News Fucks will shut up; find something else to lie about.
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