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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:58 AM Feb 2013

Bobby Jindal: Republicans Can Continue Discriminating Against Gays And Still Win Elections

Source: ThinkProgress


By Igor Volsky posted from ThinkProgress LGBT on Feb 24, 2013 at 9:49 am

Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) — a possible Republican candidate for president in 2016 — rejected former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman’s argument that conservatives must embrace marriage equality for gays and lesbians if they want to survive as a party and reiterated his support for “traditional marriage.”

“Look, I believe in the traditional definition of marriage,” Jindal said during an appearance on Meet The Press on Sunday, and went on to claim that Republicans don’t have to make the case on social issues to attract young voters and win future elections and instead should continue focusing on economic issues. “We lost [the 2012 election] because we didn’t present a vision showing how we believe the entire economy can grow, how people can join the middle class. We’re in aspirational party and we need policies that are consistant with that aspirational private sector growth.”

In an essay for The American Conservative entitled “Marriage Equality Is a Conservative Cause,” Huntsman — a Mormon whose previous support for civil unions set him apart from Republican presidential candidates in 2012 — argued that if the Republican Party wants to survive, it must enhance its appeal to gay Americans and the growing majority that supports marriage equality.

“It’s difficult to get people even to consider your reform ideas if they think, with good reason, you don’t like or respect them,” Huntsman wrote. “Building a winning coalition to tackle the looming fiscal and trust deficits will be impossible if we continue to alienate broad segments of the population….Consistent with the Republican Party’s origins, we must demand equality under the law for all Americans.”

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Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/02/24/1631311/bobby-jindal-republicans-can-continue-discriminating-against-gays-and-still-win-elections/

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Bobby Jindal: Republicans Can Continue Discriminating Against Gays And Still Win Elections (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2013 OP
So much for not being the party of stupid n/t Gore1FL Feb 2013 #1
"Instead, we're the party of bigots!" sakabatou Feb 2013 #19
Go Cards !!!! pangaia Feb 2013 #22
Poor Huntsman. He's fighting a losing battle! bluethruandthru Feb 2013 #2
Don't you mean "Speedboated" exboyfil Feb 2013 #3
Or, since it's Lincoln LibertyLover Feb 2013 #32
So basically what Jindal is saying is that the GOP just needs a bigger megaphone ck4829 Feb 2013 #4
Uh, "Bobby"? Stupid. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #5
He shouldn't try an dissuade them from this notion. iandhr Feb 2013 #6
Translation: Republicans want to drag the country around to their whim Ash_F Feb 2013 #7
Yea do it to win ...don't do it because of heart ...because they have none. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #8
Huntsman Must Think That He Belongs To The Party Of Lincoln DallasNE Feb 2013 #9
continue focusing on economic issues. AlbertCat Feb 2013 #10
Jindal 2016. What a sideshow that would be Ratty Feb 2013 #11
Not if they can't redistrict, disenfranchise voters, or literally flip the votes electronically.Nope judesedit Feb 2013 #12
I guess the republicans are not going to change. liberal N proud Feb 2013 #13
Not until many of the older ones die out. And even then... GodlessBiker Feb 2013 #15
It seems the younger republicans are more radical than the older ones. liberal N proud Feb 2013 #16
Just the vocal ones. I know quite a few socially conservative Republican parents who have ... GodlessBiker Feb 2013 #17
Perhaps for a short time. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #14
"...don’t have to make the case on xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #18
Bobby Jindal's combination of stupidity, myopia and pandering is why the Re thugs belong to a party... Nika Feb 2013 #20
Rethugs are at Ground Zero goclark Feb 2013 #33
When Rethugs are at rock bottom and they refuse to go upward/change... Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #34
Their record on economic issues vis the middle class isn't too good either daleo Feb 2013 #21
Never underestimate stupid, look how they are doing at the state level. CK_John Feb 2013 #23
Piyush's approval ratings as governor are now in the toilet. BlueStater Feb 2013 #24
F Piyush Jindal. n/t area51 Feb 2013 #25
Good. That just improves the odds for Democrats. n/t Lil Missy Feb 2013 #26
GOP: Southern rump party, of old white racist evangelicals blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #27
fuck him , even NEwt Gingrich supports same sex marriage JI7 Feb 2013 #28
"aspirational party".. sendero Feb 2013 #29
That's the trouble with reactionaries, they live in the past. nt bemildred Feb 2013 #30
Sorry, Piyush, but you and your insane bedfellows Arkana Feb 2013 #31

bluethruandthru

(3,918 posts)
2. Poor Huntsman. He's fighting a losing battle!
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:07 AM
Feb 2013

Today's republicans are so far from their origins that if Abe Lincoln tried to run for president today, he'd be 'swiftboated' by his own party.

ck4829

(35,085 posts)
4. So basically what Jindal is saying is that the GOP just needs a bigger megaphone
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:55 PM
Feb 2013

"Let's just shout louder than everyone else, that has to work!"

You know what? Just let them try it.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
7. Translation: Republicans want to drag the country around to their whim
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
Feb 2013

...rather than listen to their constituents.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
8. Yea do it to win ...don't do it because of heart ...because they have none. n/t
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:33 PM
Feb 2013

It's not what you say or do, it's what you are that counts.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
9. Huntsman Must Think That He Belongs To The Party Of Lincoln
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:45 PM
Feb 2013

That must make him pretty lonely out there.

It's not just the social issues that are the headwind for the GOP. It is also how they focus on economic issues and continue to insist on a plan that is a proven failure. Neither Jindal nor Huntsman seem to understand this so they can talk all they want but they will never gain traction with their message. That is how it is with nails on a chalkboard.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
10. continue focusing on economic issues.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:48 PM
Feb 2013

Yeah! Like vaginal probes and "In God We Trust".

Maybe a better way to say it is "continue focusing on economic blackmail."

judesedit

(4,442 posts)
12. Not if they can't redistrict, disenfranchise voters, or literally flip the votes electronically.Nope
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:57 PM
Feb 2013

Never have. Never will.

GodlessBiker

(6,314 posts)
17. Just the vocal ones. I know quite a few socially conservative Republican parents who have ...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:42 PM
Feb 2013

socially liberal, at least when it comes to LGBT issues, Republican children. I know that's anecdotal, but I think it's a trend. The kids simply know more gay people and may have gay friends, and it is difficult for them to be as dogmatic as their parents about the issue.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
14. Perhaps for a short time.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:02 PM
Feb 2013

Gerrymandering will only buy them so much time on this issue. Full gay rights are inevitable at this point, and Republicans will eventually have to embrace it if they want to survive.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
18. "...don’t have to make the case on
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:54 PM
Feb 2013

social issues to attract young voters and win future elections..."

But since the rethugs have focused on social issues (war on women, immigration, LGBT, etc.) for so long, they are going to have address those issues before theu can even think of having a National party again.

Nika

(546 posts)
20. Bobby Jindal's combination of stupidity, myopia and pandering is why the Re thugs belong to a party...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:45 PM
Feb 2013

... on the road to extinction.

His is an incredibly stupid and destructive point of view that gets him and his party nowhere.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
33. Rethugs are at Ground Zero
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:58 AM
Feb 2013


The 47% stuff and the last election should have taught them a lesson - they are lost in the twilight zone.

They thought they could BUY the election ( I thought they could too and I was scared) but they did not.

Jindalbells is all those things you mentioned and more.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
34. When Rethugs are at rock bottom and they refuse to go upward/change...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:58 PM
Feb 2013

where do they go? Pounding or rubbing their noses in cement...is the only thing they can do.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
21. Their record on economic issues vis the middle class isn't too good either
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:01 PM
Feb 2013

Aspirational goals are often just wishful thinking, meant to hoodwink people and to avoid realistic thinking.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
23. Never underestimate stupid, look how they are doing at the state level.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:58 PM
Feb 2013

It is easier to control smaller groups with fear and bully efforts.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
24. Piyush's approval ratings as governor are now in the toilet.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:37 AM
Feb 2013

He can feel his presidential hopes slipping away from him. Only solution is to pander to the crazies!

sendero

(28,552 posts)
29. "aspirational party"..
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:13 AM
Feb 2013

.... we aspire to convince the unwashed masses to believe the ridiculous ideas about the economy we hold dear, all while said ideas have been PROVEN to fail.

Tax cuts for the rich produces jobs - FAIL

Deregulation produces jobs - FAIL

You stupid fucks keep talking, every day more and more Americans are waking up to your BULLSHIT.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
31. Sorry, Piyush, but you and your insane bedfellows
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:04 AM
Feb 2013

are on the wrong goddamn side of history, just like the lunatics who claimed miscegenation was Communism back in the 50s and 60s.

And Huntsman's got to know he's fighting a losing battle.

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