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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:09 PM Mar 2013

Two Afghan Boys Accidentally Killed by NATO Helicopter

Source: NY Times

KABUL, Afghanistan — Two boys out collecting firewood with their donkeys were killed by weapons fired from a NATO helicopter, Afghan and American military officials announced on Saturday.

The new American commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., promptly issued an apology and said the killings were an accident.

The victims, Toor Jan, 11, and Andul Wodood, 12, were brothers and had been walking behind their donkeys in the Shahed-e-Hasas district of Oruzgan Province when the helicopter fired on them, according to Afghan officials in the district. The two donkeys were killed as well.

General Dunford said that coalition forces had opened fire on what they thought were insurgent forces, and killed the boys by accident. “I offer my personal apology and condolences to the family of the boys who were killed,” General Dunford said. “We take full responsibility for this tragedy.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/world/asia/two-afghan-boys-accidentally-killed-by-nato-helicopter.html?hp

When there's no more bogeymen to kill, they'll have to settle for children and donkeys.

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Two Afghan Boys Accidentally Killed by NATO Helicopter (Original Post) NeoConsSuck Mar 2013 OP

Why do they hate? nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #1

For our freedoms /nt Ash_F Mar 2013 #8

Oopsie! Our bad. Again. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #2

Uhm ...the GOP considers donkeys (Dems) to be terrorists. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #13

My country could avoid the whole "apology" phase by not firing on teenagers out walking their Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #3

Or by not being in that country... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #9

Best way NOT to kill kids in Afghanistan is NOT be in Afghanistan Kennah Mar 2013 #28

accidentally or mistakenly? olddad56 Mar 2013 #4

I'm not in Afghanistan ...and even I hate us. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #12

With the technology the military has, how can this be considered an accident? Tempest Mar 2013 #5

they'll give the families a few thousand and it'll be like it never happened frylock Mar 2013 #6

Yea ...they are just dirt dogs anyway ...they'll gladly take the money for a dead son or daughter. L0oniX Mar 2013 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2013 #7

You found the words I couldn't find. bvar22 Mar 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2013 #16

Tea? Signal_Corps Mar 2013 #29

Excellent post!~ Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #17

Very well said. We have met the enemy and it is us. kiranon Mar 2013 #21

Military job security ...creating more terrorists seeking revenge for killing the innocent. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #10

These children weren't even born yet when September 11 happened. undeterred Mar 2013 #15

Now that is a thought provoking post. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #20

Now THERE'S gun camera footage that should put someone in jail! nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2013 #19

Yep. I'm tired of murders and thugs getting away with it. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2013 #23

Why were they identified John2 Mar 2013 #24

We take full responsibility for killing your children daleo Mar 2013 #25

FWIW Americans were not involved pettypace Mar 2013 #26

"We can believe US soldiers wouldn't have been so reckless. " Nihil Mar 2013 #30

winning hearts and minds............fucking idiots Demonaut Mar 2013 #27

So, they got mistaken for a wedding? nt bemildred Mar 2013 #31

polly7

(20,582 posts)

1. Why do they hate? nt.

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:10 PM

Mar 2013

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)

8. For our freedoms /nt

Reply to polly7 (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:06 PM

Mar 2013

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

2. Oopsie! Our bad. Again.

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:12 PM

Mar 2013

Oh, and we killed their donkeys. I suppose they thought they were terrorist donkeys.

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

13. Uhm ...the GOP considers donkeys (Dems) to be terrorists. n/t

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:20 PM

Mar 2013

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)

3. My country could avoid the whole "apology" phase by not firing on teenagers out walking their

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:16 PM

Mar 2013

donkey. I'm a solutions man and this one seems to make some sense. I'm distraught that this is the kind of tragic misadventure my tax dollars funds.

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)

9. Or by not being in that country...

Reply to Ed Suspicious (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:06 PM

Mar 2013

in the first place.

Kennah

(14,261 posts)

28. Best way NOT to kill kids in Afghanistan is NOT be in Afghanistan

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:47 PM

Mar 2013

olddad56

(5,732 posts)

4. accidentally or mistakenly?

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:32 PM

Mar 2013

The guys in the helicopter meant to kill the two boys, it was no accident. They just mistaken their identity. No big deal to them. Kill first, ask questions later. Were the guys in the helicopter in any danger from the two boys? Can't understand why the people in Afghanistan hate us.

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

12. I'm not in Afghanistan ...and even I hate us. n/t

Reply to olddad56 (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:18 PM

Mar 2013

Tempest

(14,591 posts)

5. With the technology the military has, how can this be considered an accident?

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:46 PM

Mar 2013

They have the tech to see the horror in the boy's eyes as they were fired upon.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

6. they'll give the families a few thousand and it'll be like it never happened

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:46 PM

Mar 2013

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

11. Yea ...they are just dirt dogs anyway ...they'll gladly take the money for a dead son or daughter.

Reply to frylock (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:16 PM

Mar 2013

Response to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

guyton This message was self-deleted by its author.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)

14. You found the words I couldn't find.

Reply to guyton (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:34 PM

Mar 2013

My outrage matches yours.

"We take full responsibility"????

REALLY?
Then here is a pistol with a single bullet.
Go behind the bushes and Take Responsibility.

WHY ARE WE STILL IN AFGHANISTAN?????

WHY ARE WE STILL KILLING INNOCENTS?
Everyone who had ANYTHING to do with 9-11 is Long GONE.

Response to bvar22 (Reply #14)

guyton This message was self-deleted by its author.

Signal_Corps

(9 posts)

29. Tea?

Reply to bvar22 (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:32 AM

Mar 2013

Your ridiculous suggestion sounds like something a tea partier would say, but I agree it is long past time to leave.

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)

17. Excellent post!~

Reply to guyton (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:15 PM

Mar 2013

kiranon

(1,727 posts)

21. Very well said. We have met the enemy and it is us.

Reply to guyton (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:19 PM

Mar 2013

To borrow from Pogo.

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

10. Military job security ...creating more terrorists seeking revenge for killing the innocent. n/t

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:14 PM

Mar 2013

undeterred

(34,658 posts)

15. These children weren't even born yet when September 11 happened.

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:57 PM

Mar 2013

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)

20. Now that is a thought provoking post.

Reply to undeterred (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:11 PM

Mar 2013

We kill people who were not even born yet to quench our bloodlust for 911.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)

18. Now THERE'S gun camera footage that should put someone in jail! nt

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:47 PM

Mar 2013

Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #18)

guyton This message was self-deleted by its author.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)

22. Yep. I'm tired of murders and thugs getting away with it. nt

Reply to guyton (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:21 PM

Mar 2013

Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #22)

guyton This message was self-deleted by its author.

John2

(2,730 posts)

24. Why were they identified

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:30 PM

Mar 2013

as the enemy?

daleo

(21,317 posts)

25. We take full responsibility for killing your children

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:26 PM

Mar 2013

Here's a hundred bucks. Plus, sorry about that, chief.

pettypace

(744 posts)

26. FWIW Americans were not involved

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:28 PM

Mar 2013

http://rt.com/news/afghan-children-australian-death-722/

The soldiers who fired were Australian.

I think this makes me feel better at least about our role. We can believe US soldiers wouldn't have been so reckless.

Prayers for the victims.