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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:25 PM Mar 2013

Former Newark Airport TSA screener says job does little to keep fliers safe (job is a complete joke)

Source: New York Post

Former Newark Airport TSA screener says the job does little to keep fliers safe
Last Updated: 2:14 PM, March 10, 2013
Posted: 1:14 AM, March 10, 2013



A LOT of what we do is make-believe.

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Because the cameras are recording our every move, we have to do something. If someone isn’t checked or even screened properly, the entire terminal would shut down, as this constitutes a security breach.

But since most TSA supervisors are too daft to actually supervise, bending the rules is easy to do.

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Most TSA screeners know their job is a complete joke. Their goal is to use this as a stepping stone to another government agency.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/confessions_of_tsa_agent_we_re_bunch_OhxHeGd0RR9UVGzfypjnLO

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Former Newark Airport TSA screener says job does little to keep fliers safe (job is a complete joke) (Original Post) kpete Mar 2013 OP
Security Theater Only kairos12 Mar 2013 #1
And money for crony/contractors. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #20
It all was a GOP cash cow for Bush buddies. Follow the money...equipment, uniforms, contractors...e kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #24
There are two important factors regarding the DHS/TSA which are rarely taken into consideration: Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #2
One of my friends boarded a plane with a cane. Thav Mar 2013 #3
We knew this from the start Demeter Mar 2013 #4
TSA Screening At Airports Provides The ILLUSION Of Security ZOB Mar 2013 #5
+1 One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #21
This author seems a tiny bit less-than-gruntled, but I do agree that security checkpoints petronius Mar 2013 #6
The TSA is there to harass the flying public, nothing more..... Swede Atlanta Mar 2013 #7
They "had to" pat down my 83 year old mother and my 15 year old daughter both. davsand Mar 2013 #22
TSA now has passengers do a self-pat-down. MindPilot Mar 2013 #23
Yeah, I figured as much. How much are we spending on this? AnnieK401 Mar 2013 #8
Yeah, but look how many terrorists they've arrested! tclambert Mar 2013 #9
Time to cut this expensive joke.... midnight Mar 2013 #10
So getting felt up was just for fun? classykaren Mar 2013 #11
Yet another one to add to the "No Shit, Sherlock!" file. kath Mar 2013 #12
At least it's a paycheck going to Americans and not WAR WAR WAR. valerief Mar 2013 #13
Apparently not always. This story is one of the latest involving an "undocumented worker": AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #16
Bimbo ? really ? olddots Mar 2013 #17
Apparently "Bimbo" was his real name. No wonder why he wanted to take someone else's. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #18
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #14
One obvious solution: take away the video cameras of the supervisors so they are not recording AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #15
I had a cop friend mention the TSA "pat down" issue years ago SpartanDem Mar 2013 #19
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
24. It all was a GOP cash cow for Bush buddies. Follow the money...equipment, uniforms, contractors...e
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:51 AM
Mar 2013
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
2. There are two important factors regarding the DHS/TSA which are rarely taken into consideration:
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:46 PM
Mar 2013

1. The profit motive.

The 2006 Citigroup "Plutonomy Symposium" memo states that technological revolution is one of the drivers of plutonomy, of the very rich becoming ever-richer. We've already seen Halliburton awarded no-bid contracts by former employees then in government, and using the opportunity to charge taxpayers $45 per case of cola delivered to troops, and $100 per bag of laundry done. A nation-wide "homeland security" tech revolution, including drones and TSA scanners, are working to help further engorge the profit parasites.


Meet the Contractors Turning America's Police Into a Paramilitary Force

The national security state has an annual budget of around $1 trillion. Of that huge pile of money, large amounts go to private companies the federal government awards contracts to. Some, like Lockheed Martin or Boeing, are household names, but many of the contractors fly just under the public's radar. What follows are three companies you should know about (because some of them can learn a lot about you with their spy technologies).

http://www.alternet.org/meet-contractors-turning-americas-police-paramilitary-force?paging=off


2. That the profit motive helping drive the very rich to ever further heights, becomes self-reinforcing through government and lobbyists working to vote into law bills which simultaneously limit our freedoms and provide wild profiteering for the very rich.


Anonymous: Night Raid Equipment-Maker Lobbied for NDAA, Singles Out Sen. Rob Portman.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/19/1046972/-Anonymous-Night-Raid-Equipment-Maker-Lobbied-for-NDAA-Singles-Out-Sen-Rob-Portman#

Anonymous singles out Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) for receiving a particularly large sum from companies and PACs lobbying for the NDAA. From the RT report:

Robert J. Portman...we are truly disturbed by the ludicrous $272,853 he received from special interest groups supporting the NDAA bill that authorizes the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

Even in Washington terms, over a quarter million is a ridiculous amount of money from special interest groups supporting an issue to any single legislator. Congressmen have been bought for far less, with around $50,000 considered a serious ante at anyone's table, and much less merely keeping you in the game.

snip

“Among the supporters of NDAA are California-based manufacturer Surefire, L.L.C., who won a $23 million contract from the Department of Defense three months ago.


---

The leaked Citigroup memo, "The Plutonomy Symposium: Rising Tides Lifting Yachts."

https://www.box.com/shared/9if6v2hr9h

Thav

(946 posts)
3. One of my friends boarded a plane with a cane.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:52 PM
Mar 2013

He was also trained to use said cane as a weapon, including a few techniques that are lethal. Not that he'd ever use it for anything other than self-defense.

This wasn't a failure of the TSA, the Americans with Disabilities Act forced the TSA to let him through with it.

Go back to metal detectors and x-ray the bags only. Get rid of all the circus, hire a few more dogs to walk around and smell for things, and save the American people billions in tax dollars.

 

ZOB

(151 posts)
5. TSA Screening At Airports Provides The ILLUSION Of Security
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:10 PM
Mar 2013

I've said that forever.

No nail clippers on a plane, but you can carry a screwdriver as long as it's seven inches or less. ONE person tries to detonate a shoe bomb and millions of travelers now have to take off their shoes. It'd be simple to fill breast implants with explosives, but we have no way of checking for that (let alone the ease of sticking a pound of C4 in one's rectum to smuggle it through security).

The only purpose of TSA checkpoints is to harass millions of travelers so they "feel secure".

petronius

(26,602 posts)
6. This author seems a tiny bit less-than-gruntled, but I do agree that security checkpoints
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:36 PM
Mar 2013

only provide a small increase in security - and are probably one of the lesser impediments to anyone bent on really attacking a plane. Although I do feel that there should be something there, it would be nice if it was less obstructive and a provided a bit more believable security in exchange for the hassle...

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
7. The TSA is there to harass the flying public, nothing more.....
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:33 PM
Mar 2013

The TSA has never thwarted an attack on American civil aviation. The panty and shoe bombers were stopped by other passengers.

All the other reported plots to attack American civil aviation from the plans in the late 1990s in Asia to the planned attacks from London to stopping the cargo bomb from Yemen were stopped by law enforcement - a combination of the efforts of the intelligence services including the FBI, CIA, etc.

I feel no safer after being harassed and porno scanned than if all we had were some basic metal detectors.

The problems on 9-11 were that the cockpit doors were not enforced. Those doors are now enforced and the crew have specific protocols on when they do or do not open the cockpit door.

We waste billions on this charade and along with it cost travelers hundreds of thousands of hours of lost productive time and significant additional cost to businesses.

We should shut TSA down and go back to what we had before.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
22. They "had to" pat down my 83 year old mother and my 15 year old daughter both.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:05 PM
Mar 2013

Mom was flying to Florida with my aunt (who is also another 80 something year old lady) and they pulled my mother out for a pat down. They gave her no reason for the pat down. My 15 year old was flying home from San Antonio, Texas having just attended an Air Force Graduation. They pulled her out for a pat down because her hair was tied up in a bun rather than loose. She offered to take her hair tie out and they refused to let her do it.

Neither one of them presents what I'd call an imposing presence, and for sure neither of them fits any known profile for terrorism. My mother, bless her heart, gave them a raft of crap for making her stand there for very long. She gave them full details of her quadruple bypass a few years ago, and told them that they better get her a chair.

My kid, was flying with a friend of ours who is an Assistant State's Attorney who was at the hospital with us the day she was born. My daughter reported that there there were some pretty hard questions asked of the TSA agent while she was being patted down. She said they all but gave them the bum's rush to get them out of there once it was done.

I find myself wondering, if two of my less than threatening family members are getting patted down, just who all ARE they patting down? Is this some kind of bad lottery system that they change up every so often just for shits and grins? Next week is it gonna be old men in wheelchairs and four year olds with Barbie Backpacks? This shit is crazy. Anybody that thinks this is doing any good--keeping us safer--needs to just go sit in an airport for a while and observe. TSA is a joke, and an expensive joke at that.



Laura

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
23. TSA now has passengers do a self-pat-down.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:38 PM
Mar 2013

I posted about this before, but yes, it's true. Boarding a flight in Bullhead City AZ my SO was asked to "run her hands up and down her legs and pat the pockets" while the TSA agent watched.

I guess this follows the same lines of thinking as Romney's idea of "self-deportation".

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
9. Yeah, but look how many terrorists they've arrested!
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:46 PM
Mar 2013

How many times they've saved us from explosions, gunfights, and crashing airplanes. Oh, the carnage we almost suffered. Like that shoe-bomber guy, subdued on an airliner by passengers and flight crew--okay, bad example. How about the underwear bomber? Also caught by passengers and flight crew on a plane after successfully passing through TSA security. Still, not a good example. Okay, what about Cat Stevens, aka Yusef Islam (translation: Joseph Peace)? They put his name on a no-fly list, and stopped him from flying one time. Why, if they hadn't been on the ball then, he might have started singing soft rock or something right on the airplane.

All right, I can't actually think of a single time they saved us from anything. But that's no reason to give up on the program now. Look at the embargo on Cuba. Fifty years, over fifty years, and we still haven't given up on it. Any day now it may bring down the Castro regime. Then we can put Batista back in power.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
13. At least it's a paycheck going to Americans and not WAR WAR WAR.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:19 PM
Mar 2013

Although plenty more tax money, not used for airport personnel, is pissed away on this Terror bullshit.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
16. Apparently not always. This story is one of the latest involving an "undocumented worker":
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:15 AM
Mar 2013
"A man who supervised more than 30 private security guards at Newark-Liberty International Airport is accused of being an illegal immigrant who took the identity of a man killed 20 years ago, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said Monday.

"Bimbo Olumuyiwa Oyewole, 54, began working as a private security guard in 1992 while allegedly using the identity of Jerry Thomas, a man who was killed earlier that year, according to Steve Coleman of the Port Authority.

"Coleman said Oyewole is an illegal immigrant from Nigeria, but passed numerous background checks with the New Jersey State Police and Border Protection. An anonymous tip several weeks ago helped investigators build a case, Coleman said. Oyewole was arrested at his home in Elizabeth, New Jersey, on Monday and charged with identity theft.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/14/us/new-jersey-airport-arrest
May 14, 2012


 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
17. Bimbo ? really ?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:13 AM
Mar 2013

The people who set up and profit from the T.S.A. should be on the no fly list even though they are a fly on the shit that is air travel .

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
15. One obvious solution: take away the video cameras of the supervisors so they are not recording
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:07 AM
Mar 2013

every move of the TSA employees and allow the TSA employees to actually look for security threats without feeling the need to be constantly doing something.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
19. I had a cop friend mention the TSA "pat down" issue years ago
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:09 AM
Mar 2013

and how bad of technique it was for finding weapons. He summed it well, people wouldn't probably stand for the more invasive real pat down, but most people have never been patted down by the police, they don't the difference so the TSA looks like it's doing something.

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