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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:17 PM Mar 2013

'I was just freefalling': Golfer plunges into Illinois sinkhole

Source: NBC News

ST. LOUIS - Suddenly being swallowed up by the earth on a golf course's fairway drove a wedge between Mark Mihal and a stellar round.

The 43-year-old mortgage broker was counting his blessings Tuesday and nursing a dislocated shoulder sustained four days earlier when he tumbled into an 18-foot deep sinkhole on the 14th hole of the Annbriar Golf Club near Waterloo, Ill., just southeast of St. Louis.

Friends managed to hoist Mihal to safety with a rope after about 20 minutes. But the experience gave him quite a fright, particularly following the much-publicized recent death of a man in Florida who died when his bedroom fell into a sinkhole. That man's body hasn't been found.

"I feel lucky just to come out of it with a shoulder injury, falling that far and not knowing what I was going to hit," Mihal, from the St. Louis suburb of Creve Coeur, told The Associated Press before heading off to learn whether he'll need surgery. "It was absolutely crazy."



Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/12/17285573-i-was-just-freefalling-golfer-plunges-into-illinois-sinkhole#comments



Not funny, I know. But 'God sinks six footer on 14th' seems to fit the story.
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'I was just freefalling': Golfer plunges into Illinois sinkhole (Original Post) IDemo Mar 2013 OP
What the hell is going on? Is this because of fracking that this keeps happening? Happyhippychick Mar 2013 #1
Someone blamed gophers in the comment section at the link IDemo Mar 2013 #2
The phenomenon is called Misleading Vividness slackmaster Mar 2013 #6
Well, if they're having sinkholes in Illinois, tracking would be my first thought... silvershadow Mar 2013 #9
Illinois is also coal country, thus my first thought was an abandoned coal mine. happyslug Mar 2013 #17
Ah, very likely. By the way, that is some story. Probably a zillion more places like it, all over. silvershadow Mar 2013 #18
Bedrock around there is limestone AngryAmish Mar 2013 #20
I'd put my money on drought. JVS Mar 2013 #10
It seems like in some parts of the midwest, fracking and the drought could be a lethal combination olddad56 Mar 2013 #11
I saw a geological survey map once Cracklin Charlie Mar 2013 #15
Pumping out groundwater for irrigation of golf course Submariner Mar 2013 #16
rather than the coveted hole in one, it was the not so sought after "one in hole". olddad56 Mar 2013 #3
Guess they'll be calling those "molies" moving forward. bluesbassman Mar 2013 #4
Wow. I read that as freeballing. Drunken Irishman Mar 2013 #5
LOL! Oh shit... OneGrassRoot Mar 2013 #12
Happens when you spend the day at the computer in a bathrobe. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #14
Not the same as the Florida sink hole joesdaughter Mar 2013 #7
There are reasons I don't go golfing. This is not one, but there are reasons. Glad he survived. freshwest Mar 2013 #8
They should just call it an honorary hole-in-one mindwalker_i Mar 2013 #13
"he tumbled into an 18-foot deep sinkhole on the 14th hole of the Annbriar Golf Club" Javaman Mar 2013 #19
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
6. The phenomenon is called Misleading Vividness
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:55 PM
Mar 2013

Hearing two similar stories that are unusual from your perspective in a short time creates the false impression of a trend.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
9. Well, if they're having sinkholes in Illinois, tracking would be my first thought...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:17 PM
Mar 2013

but I'm not educated in either sinkholes or the ugly details of fracking. ?? Funny, I just made the connection a few days ago in my mind, and mused about it, wondering if sinkholes could happen here in the midwest. Turns out, I only had to wait a few days for my answer. Now I have to do some more digging into the matter.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
17. Illinois is also coal country, thus my first thought was an abandoned coal mine.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 10:52 PM
Mar 2013

Several decades ago, the Bealing PA Soccer team was playing a Soccer game, one of the players was doing a control kick of the ball down field, then you just saw the ball rolling, the player had fallen into a sink hole.

The Bealing soccer field was and is built over the old abandoned Bealing Coal mine. Thus there was no question what caused the sink hole.

By the way, under the rules of soccer the ball was still in play even as the player climbed out of the sink hole.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
18. Ah, very likely. By the way, that is some story. Probably a zillion more places like it, all over.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:55 AM
Mar 2013

Out of sight, out of mind, and soon forgotten. Even knowing this, as you pointed out to me, it's just something I would never think about much.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
20. Bedrock around there is limestone
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 09:30 AM
Mar 2013

Over time water eats away at the limestone and caves develop. Eventually as the cave gets bigger the topsoil above becomes thinner. Also, golf fairways have sand added both in construction and continually every year. So the soil was weak. Eventually this guys was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Fracking takes places thousands of feet below ground.

So, the short answer is this is in no way related to fracking.

The county where this course is at is the cave capital of Illinois.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
11. It seems like in some parts of the midwest, fracking and the drought could be a lethal combination
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:23 PM
Mar 2013

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
15. I saw a geological survey map once
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:45 PM
Mar 2013

This map included the entire St. Louis area, Missouri and Illinois. This entire area is chock full of underground caves/rivers/voids of all types. There is huge potential for sinkholes in the St. Louis area.

Most likely a natural phenomena, due to the landscape-altering strength of the huge Mississippi River.

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
16. Pumping out groundwater for irrigation of golf course
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 10:19 PM
Mar 2013

and drinking water supplies. The interstitial space between grains of sand is usually filled with water. With groundwater extraction there is only air left in those spaces so the soil particles slip, the ground weakens and then subsides.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
3. rather than the coveted hole in one, it was the not so sought after "one in hole".
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:35 PM
Mar 2013

glad that he is around to tell his golf story.

joesdaughter

(243 posts)
7. Not the same as the Florida sink hole
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:01 PM
Mar 2013

"While disturbing, such sinkholes aren't uncommon in southwestern Illinois, where old underground mines frequently cause the earth to settle. In Mihal's case, the sinkhole's culprit was subsurface limestone that dissolves from acidic rainwater, snowmelt and carbon dioxide, eventually causing the ground to collapse, said Sam Panno, a senior geochemist with the Illinois State Geological Survey.

That region ''is riddled with sinkholes,'' with as many as 15,000 recorded, Panno said"

(From the Fox Sports site)

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
13. They should just call it an honorary hole-in-one
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:26 PM
Mar 2013

Or one-in-a-hole, or something.

I might be pretty t'd off about it if I were him though.

Javaman

(62,533 posts)
19. "he tumbled into an 18-foot deep sinkhole on the 14th hole of the Annbriar Golf Club"
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 09:09 AM
Mar 2013

Which club would you use for that? Wedge?

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