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brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 01:53 PM Mar 2013

Michele Bachmann: Obamacare Will ‘Literally’ Kill Peopletle

Source: Think Progress

By Igor Volsky on Mar 21, 2013 at 11:55 am

As the country prepares to celebrate the third anniversary of health care reform, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) insisted on Thursday that the Affordable Care Act will “kill” vulnerable women and children during a speech on the floor of the House.

In a long diatribe against the law, Bachmann predicted that the American people will “pay more” and get less, before suggesting that the provisions of Obamacare will “literally” kill people:

BACHMANN: It’s why we’re here because we’re saying let’s repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens. Let’s not do that. Let’s love people, let’s care about people. Let’s repeal it now while we can.




Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/21/1755271/michele-bachmann-obamacare-will-literally-kill-people/



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Michele Bachmann: Obamacare Will ‘Literally’ Kill Peopletle (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2013 OP
Surely Heron Bachmann has shown BHO the folly and error of his ways indepat Mar 2013 #1
If stupidity killed people there would be no republican party. City Lights Mar 2013 #2
...but wouldn't ACA cover that? brooklynite Mar 2013 #3
"You can't fix stupid." Brigid Apr 2013 #64
Idiots like her would be shouted down in the UK's Parliament. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #4
Everyone is shouted down in the UK Parliament. iandhr Mar 2013 #17
Never was a truer word spoken LeftishBrit Mar 2013 #20
Keep talking Michele, you're doing a great job representing the intellectual side of your Party. Scuba Mar 2013 #5
"Let's love people, let's care about people." narnian60 Mar 2013 #6
Let me fix that for you bobclark86 Mar 2013 #25
Good post, I continue to tell my gun loving antiabortion friend it is still abortion. Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #53
Come on, come on. timdog44 Mar 2013 #28
Where have you been, Michelle? AnnieK401 Mar 2013 #7
If true I hope she's first. JNelson6563 Mar 2013 #8
Everything she says smells like farts. truthisfreedom Mar 2013 #9
The editor in me wants to smack her MountainLaurel Mar 2013 #10
I really don't think she is a well woman. MissMarple Mar 2013 #11
Keith Olbermann was right. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #12
I had exactly the same response. And in the same voice. Dollface Mar 2013 #24
He was actually referring to Sarah Palin. GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #33
He said it about crazy eyes michelle too. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #34
Oh, gawd, she's right. Rozlee Mar 2013 #13
I'm from Minnesota, right next door to her district. This says it all. mac56 Mar 2013 #14
LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2013 #15
There's a uniqueness, shall we say, to the Minnesota 6th District. mac56 Mar 2013 #44
Wow! I read this post Politicalboi Mar 2013 #50
Yeesh . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #65
Repeating the same lies sakabatou Mar 2013 #16
How is it going to kill people? RevStPatrick Mar 2013 #18
They just say this and let people use their imaginations. thecrow Mar 2013 #19
Oh, that's right. I forgot about the Death Panels. RevStPatrick Mar 2013 #21
It will literally kill them. Javaman Mar 2013 #22
ACA is like a corporation... bobclark86 Mar 2013 #26
This woman is an embarrassment. Arkana Mar 2013 #23
A nut in a nutshell... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2013 #37
I just got a call from my insurance agent's office. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2013 #27
You should make an OP out of this. Brigid Mar 2013 #31
I am embarrassed to admit... Cracklin Charlie Mar 2013 #46
It's in GD. Brigid Mar 2013 #49
+1 IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2013 #36
Reminds me of the natural gas providers that louis-t Mar 2013 #47
Really, I wonder what kind of a kickback she is getting from the insurance companies. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #51
I Listened To Her Rant - I Caught It On CSPAN As I Was Looking To Find The President's Israeli.... global1 Mar 2013 #29
Obamacare doesn't kill people. People kill people. KamaAina Mar 2013 #30
Dear Lord, save us from your followers ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #32
BATS!...BATS!... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2013 #35
She is Bat S--- Crazy goclark Mar 2013 #52
Has South Park The Wizard Mar 2013 #38
Because no health care at all is the best way to love and care for people, right Michele? AndyA Mar 2013 #39
Who let her into congress again? EmeraldCity Mar 2013 #40
An extremely gerrymanded district unfortunately. bluesbassman Mar 2013 #41
Thank you EmeraldCity Apr 2013 #63
Obviously people who were not paying attention. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #56
It won't happen again. truthisfreedom Mar 2013 #60
Michele Bachmann is "literally" killing me. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #42
Somebody needs to tell that nimrod Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #43
This Nimrod is too dumb to realize anything flying-skeleton Mar 2013 #45
Sum EZ-listenin muzak fer ya, Michele struggle4progress Mar 2013 #48
I guess she didn't read the studies I read TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #54
FU Bachmann, it's very hard for me to pay more and get less than I already am doing, without O-care wordpix Mar 2013 #55
even Bill-o thinks she's whack wordpix Mar 2013 #57
Tell this ass the affordable care act is LAW!!! ELI BOY 1950 Mar 2013 #58
Bachmann's Crazy Rants get her money dem in texas Mar 2013 #59
The farther the GOP platform moves from reality... Orsino Mar 2013 #61
Dear Michele Bachmann : What you just said is one of bullwinkle428 Mar 2013 #62

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
20. Never was a truer word spoken
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:58 PM
Mar 2013

There are luckily not too many people quite as bad as Bachmann in the UK parliament, but there are some serious nutters in non-Parliamentary politics: local government, the EU parliament, and just on the fringes. Look up 'UKIP' and, worse, 'BNP'.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
25. Let me fix that for you
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:41 PM
Mar 2013

"Let's love people*, let's care** about people."

* Including rich white Christian men and fetuses until moment of birth. Excluding minorities, women, children, the elderly, gay people and spouses, anyone with an income under $1 million a year...

** Terms and conditions apply.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
53. Good post, I continue to tell my gun loving antiabortion friend it is still abortion.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:22 PM
Mar 2013

He has not agreed to put his wife, children or grandchildren up for target practice. They are for forced birth but not for any assistance once born.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
28. Come on, come on.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:58 PM
Mar 2013

That is the only good thing she said. But if she goes back and reviews it, I am sure would say it differently.

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
7. Where have you been, Michelle?
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:04 PM
Mar 2013

The SCOTUS already spoke, and you R's in Congress have already tried to repeal it how many times now? I lost count but I believe the number of attempts is in the 30's. FOX News anchor Chris Wallace even told Paul Ryan it wasn't going to happen. What is it going to take. I do have one idea, if you hate the ACA so much, lets go with a single payer system/Medicare for all. That sounds good to me.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
15. LOL!
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:35 PM
Mar 2013

Well she can't be blamed for it all. Those same people voted her in for another term. They could have gotten rid of her last November.

mac56

(17,574 posts)
44. There's a uniqueness, shall we say, to the Minnesota 6th District.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:54 PM
Mar 2013

Google the phrase "Stearns County syndrome" for more information.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
50. Wow! I read this post
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:55 PM
Mar 2013

Sterns County Syndrome referrers to the inter-family marriages that happened during and shortly after WWII and the resulting increase in children being born with birth defects and mental retardation. There was a study done on this but I don't know if it is available on the internet as it was done before PC's were around.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/minnesota/1631609-there-still-something-stearns-county-syndrome.html#ixzz2ODYzbUto

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
65. Yeesh . . .
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:28 PM
Apr 2013
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200112/10_mainstreet_ourtown-m/church_bar.shtml

Erv Schiffler has been behind the bar for 45 years. He's not positive, but he thinks he may have the oldest liquor license in the state. He and his father kept the bar running all these years while the rest of Main Street St. Anthony disintegrated.

"There used to be a blacksmith. That closed. There used to be a grocery store and a creamery - everything's closed up. Just the bar," says Schiffler.

It's safe to say Schiffler's is important to the town. The street lights stay lit thanks to Erv's liquor license and property taxes.

"We're here all alone. And there are a lot of towns like us," Schiffler says. "I do a lot of driving around and see a lot of towns and all there is is a bar left. Everything else is closed up. The bars seem to survive."


http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/lawrence-odonnell-wants-some-help-understan
 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
18. How is it going to kill people?
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:51 PM
Mar 2013

These people keep saying this, but they don't say how it is going to kill people.
They seem to always leave that part out.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
19. They just say this and let people use their imaginations.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:57 PM
Mar 2013

Kinda like Miss Moose starting up about the "death panels".
If they defined it beyond this vagueness, they'd become a target when the truth shoots them down.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
26. ACA is like a corporation...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:43 PM
Mar 2013

...which are people, my friends.

It will use its God-given rights to own machine guns and mow them down for walking on its lawn.

Or so I've been led to believe by my ultra-conservative relatives...

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
23. This woman is an embarrassment.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:20 PM
Mar 2013

She is loud, stupid, careless, mean, and bigoted--she's the modern Republican Party in a nutshell, and when she is gone Congress will be a better place.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
27. I just got a call from my insurance agent's office.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:48 PM
Mar 2013

Very nice lady from the office called to let me know that my insurance provider was going to be sending me a special offer. Special offer? From an insurance company?

It seems that they would like to offer me the opportunity to purchase 2014's coverage, for 2013's rates. Seems the company is all worried (concerned) that the ACA is surely going to cause my premiums to go up, and they don't want me to have to pay those higher rates. So, just for this one time, I am being offered a savings! Funny how my premiums did nothing but go up all these years, but now they want me to have a savings!

So, I keep talking to the nice lady from agent's office, and she starts confiding that "we don't know what we're gonna do, when all these people start leaving the insurance companies in droves (!) for the health care exchanges". I didn't tell her that I am planning to join the droves, but was absolutely silently fist pumping over and over at my desk. So, when I log on to DU today, I see all kinds of stories, like this one from Bachman, about how bad for us Obamacare is going to be.

I think the big companies are in full-blown panic mode.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
46. I am embarrassed to admit...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:27 PM
Mar 2013

That I have no idea how to do that. But I would gladly give you permission to do that for me, Brigid, as I have only about 15 minutes to try to get caught up on the day's news before I have to go bowling.

I am almost certain that nice lady at the agent's office overshared! LOL!

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
47. Reminds me of the natural gas providers that
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:38 PM
Mar 2013

made people sign up for 3 years at a higher rate because "the prices are going up and you'll be locked in at this rate". Except prices went down and the poor suckers got stuck paying higher rates for 3 years.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
51. Really, I wonder what kind of a kickback she is getting from the insurance companies.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:16 PM
Mar 2013

I think it really would be a good idea that politicans start wearing corporation logos on their clothing. That way we can see who is buying our congress people. Sleeze bastards all of them. Both parties. Of course there are exceptions like Warren and Sanders.

global1

(25,270 posts)
29. I Listened To Her Rant - I Caught It On CSPAN As I Was Looking To Find The President's Israeli....
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:04 PM
Mar 2013

speech. My reaction was that there is a way to assure that all people would be protected - and that is single payer - essentially Medicare for everyone.

If she truly wants to protect these vulnerable women, children and senior citizens that she was speaking of - that would be the solution. Someone should call her on that.

One thing that she said however, and I heard this before from others that don't have an ax to grind on ACA - is that employers under ACA are only obligated to offer insurance coverage to their employees and don't have to extend that to their families - wives, husbands, children. As as result the extended family could be left without health coverage and have to pick that up on their own.

I was going to try and verify that and I never did - and today that is one of the points she was attempting to make.

Does anyone know if this is true? If so that is problematic. If so - I believe that this needs to be attended to before 2014.

Can anyone provide me with some facts either supporting or refuting this.

I've been a big supporter of ACA since the talks began to formulate it. I want to make sure that it is going to help everyone.

Need Help Here!!!!!!

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,077 posts)
35. BATS!...BATS!...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
Mar 2013

...BATS!

And I didn't even have to drink any alcohol, smoke any weed, pop any mescaline or snort any coke and ether to see this one, either!


Apology for the caps.

With all due respect to Hunter S. Thompson, RIP.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
52. She is Bat S--- Crazy
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:44 PM
Mar 2013


Still waiting to see the "huge Crowds" that cvome to see any of these TBags.

On tV last night, we saw her face but the claps sounded like 50 paid people clapping for whatever stupid thing she said --- JohnMc sure knows how to pick um

What a bunch of crap they are ----

The Wizard

(12,549 posts)
38. Has South Park
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:49 PM
Mar 2013

done an episode about her? If they haven't, it could write itself just quoting her verbatim.
She and her husband are scam artists who use fictitious titles and positions that extract tax payer money from the Treasury. His fraudulent psychology practice gets government money to treat homosexuals by praying away the gay. They also get farm subsidies for their property.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
39. Because no health care at all is the best way to love and care for people, right Michele?
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:50 PM
Mar 2013

What a putz. I'm certain all those people that Obamacare would kill will live long, healthy, happy, prosperous lives with no access to health care whatsoever. Yes, that's a much better plan.

The best way to show people you love them and care for them, is to watch them suffer without health care.

Only in Bachmann's crazy, insane world. She is part of the reason things are so messed up. You can't have crazy people making decisions for the country and expect something other than insanity!

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
41. An extremely gerrymanded district unfortunately.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:11 PM
Mar 2013

She'd get bounced so fast it'd make her head swim if she had to face a legitimate district, but as it is she's pretty snug in her little RW evangelical zone.

Welcome to DU EmeraldCity. We're a horse of a different color around here.

truthisfreedom

(23,155 posts)
60. It won't happen again.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:29 AM
Mar 2013

Jim Graves ran against her and had a tiny budget to work with. He almost beat her. He's a great businessman and has a fantastic history in her district. When he runs again against her, she will have absolutely no chance of winning.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
42. Michele Bachmann is "literally" killing me.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:13 PM
Mar 2013

Because I'm dying of laughter.

Though, I would like to see "Obamacare" replaced with a single-payer system.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)
54. I guess she didn't read the studies I read
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:34 PM
Mar 2013

There's the study that found the uninsured had a 25% mortality risk than those with health insurance, from ages 25 to 74. There's the study by the Institute of medicine that found that 18,000 people died in 2000 because of lack of health insurance. An update of the study found 27,000 died in 2006. The latest study by Harvard put the figure at 45K PER YEAR. Which ever study you cite, it can be argued that tens of thousands are dying every year from lack of health insurance.

http://factcheck.org/2009/09/dying-from-lack-of-insurance/

This woman us dumber than a bag of hair.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
55. FU Bachmann, it's very hard for me to pay more and get less than I already am doing, without O-care
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:36 PM
Mar 2013

starting yet

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
59. Bachmann's Crazy Rants get her money
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:18 AM
Mar 2013

Every time she goes on one of her crazy rants, she gets lots of campaign contributions

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
61. The farther the GOP platform moves from reality...
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:26 PM
Mar 2013

...the tougher it is to tell their run-of-the-mill hucksters from the literally deranged.

Yeah, Everything Bachmann says is stupid, mean or both, but not much more so than what you'd hear from their mainstream.

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
62. Dear Michele Bachmann : What you just said is one of
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:07 PM
Mar 2013

the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent speech were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this country is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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