Salvadorans urge sainthood for martyred archbishop
Source: Associated Press
Mar 24, 4:07 PM EDT
Salvadorans urge sainthood for martyred archbishop
By MARCOS ALEMAN
Associated Press
SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador (AP) -- Salvadorans marched through the streets of San Salvador on Palm Sunday to honor the slain Archbishop Oscar Arnulfo Romero and express hope the new Pope Francis will advance him along the path to sainthood.
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Church leaders say they believe Francis' accession to the papacy will help their effort to win beatification and eventual sainthood for Romero, who was killed after his increasingly strident defense of Central American nation's poor and denunciations of government violence. His killing was one of the triggers that set off a civil war that left nearly 90,000 people dead or missing over the next 12 years.
"We are more hopeful that at last Romero will be beatified. He is a martyr. He is a saint," said Lucia Escalante, a retired schoolteacher of 65 who attended the Mass at the hospital which treats patients with terminal cancer.
"They killed Romero for defending the weakest, the poorest, for saying the truth, for denouncing injustice, and he is a martyr of the church," she said.
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_EL_SALVADOR_REMEMBERING_ROMERO?SECTION=HOME&SITE=AP&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
School of the Americas:
School of Assassins, USA
[center] " We routinely had Latin American students at the School of the Americas (SOA)
who were known human rights abusers, and it didn't make any difference to us."
Major Joseph Blair (retired), former SOA instructor[/center]
Graduates of the SOA have been among the most repressive tyrants in Latin America, and their actions have been some of the most cruel and violent. In El Salvador, in 1989, a Salvadoran army patrol executed six Jesuit priests as they lay face-down on the ground at Central America University. According to the United Nation's Truth Commission Report on El Salvador in 1993, 19 of the 27 officers who took part in the executions were trained at the SOA.
In 1990, in El Salvador, populist Archbishop Oscar Romero was assassinated. Three-quarters of the Salvadoran officers implicated in the killing were trained at the SOA. Roberto D'Aubuison, the late leader of El Salvador's Death Squad, was implicated in the plot to assassinate Archbishop Romero. He also participated in numerous murders, including a massacre in the village of El Mazote, where more than 900 men, women, and children were killed. He graduated from SOA as well.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/SOA/SOA.html
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)The person has to be dead for a certain number of years. There also needs to be evidence of miracles. I don't know where that stands. They are fewer and fewer Saints named these days because few believe in miracles, and the standard for what qualifies as a miracle seems more rigorous in our current age.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I am just shocked there has been no real movement on this. He is a revered figure throughout the world.
cyclezealot
(4,802 posts)Pope John Paul II did not like Jesuits. He sided with Opus Dei. Opus Dei was friendly with Spain's Franco. One side of the Catholic Church is in support of the poor. Its other face is obsessed with Anti Communism and the CIA and the Vatican Bank work together in causes they have in common. Time will tell if Pope Francis is serious about the teachings of the saint's whose name he took.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)but the Church has rules about how long a person has been dead and that miracles need to have occurred surrounding the deceased.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)miracles must be attributed to the person deceased person asking God for the miracle. The three states are venerable, beautified, and canonized.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)"Saint" (contracted "St" or "S." To be canonized a saint, at least two miracles must have been performed through the saint's intercession after his or her death (i.e., an additional miracle after that granting beatification)"
So people would have to pray to Romero and ask him to intercede on their behalf to bring something to pass. Is that it? But how would it be considered a miracle?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The church has their methods for determining this. They do have what is called the devil's advocate who is the clergyman who has to ask all the really hard questions. My surprise is that by now he should be at least venerable.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)haven't been fans of Liberation Theology. Nor is Francis, but he appears more promising. We'll have to see.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)How is he indicated? That, by the way, is very cool.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)in the book, but several national churches of the World Wide Anglican Communion including the Church of England and the Episcopal Church. Like any observance when mass or the daily office is said if there is something on the calendar they usually preach on the person and say a collect of the saints or martyrs.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)or a Saint?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Catholic one. There is no set doctrine, and most of the people we refer to as a saint are people canonized before the reformation with a few exceptions. The Church of England has only canonized one person in it's history and that is King Charles the first. Many people believe the old biblical view that saint meant believer. It was a member of the faith living or dead. That was the view of the very early church but that changed as time went on. The Episcopal Diocese of Washington DC had a ceremony canonizing Martin Luther King but that was more ceremonial. We have no process for such a thing. If we declare a person a martyr or confessor it is because there is just consensus to do that. Romero is a martyr so he is listed as one in the updated calendar of the church.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Thanks for the information.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)Archbishop Oscar Romero
The Last Sermon (1980)
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I would like to make a special appeal to the men of the army, and specifically to the ranks of the National Guard, the police and the military. Brothers, you come from our own people. You are killing your own brother peasants when any human order to kill must be subordinate to the law of God which says, "Thou shalt not kill." No soldier is obliged to obey an order contrary to the law of God. No one has to obey an immoral law. It is high time you recovered your consciences and obeyed your consciences rather than a sinful order. The church, the defender of the rights of God, of the law of God, of human dignity, of the person, cannot remain silent before such an abomination. We want the government to face the fact that reforms are valueless if they are to be carried out at the cost of so much blood. In the name of God, in the name of this suffering people whose cries rise to heaven more loudly each day, I implore you, I beg you, I order you in the name of God: stop the repression.
More:
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/faculty/amcguire/romero.html
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)A Report from Romero's Funeral
James L. Connor
From April 26, 1980
he U.S. Government's official position toward El Salvador is badly misguided. Of that I am now convinced. Prior to March 30, I would not have said this so confidently. But that day I got a fresh perspective on the question as I huddled with 4,000 terrified peasants inside San Salvador's cathedral while bombs exploded and bullets whistled outside in the plaza where we had gathered to celebrate the funeral of Archbishop Oscar Romero.
The funeral ceremonies started calmly on a beautiful, but hot day. A procession of some 30 bishops (from England, Ireland, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama, Costa Rica and the United States) and more than 200 priests wound its way through eight or ten blocks of the city from the church where we had vested to the cathedral. Hundreds of people lined the sidewalks, many of them listening to a radio broadcast of the event on their transistor radios. We had been assured that the day would be peaceful and free of "events." The Popular Front, including the far left, had covenanted to observe nonviolence in honor of the archbishop, and it seemed unthinkable that the hard-line right would desecrate this moment unless first provoked.
At first, all went as promised. The bishops and clergy processed into the cathedral through a side door, went out the front door to salute the altar set up in front of the cathedral, and then moved to our assigned places. The clergy remained inside the front door of the cathedral while the bishops stood outside on the altar platform and faced the square. The entire plaza was filled in of more than 100,000 persons, and thousands more spilled over into the side streets leading to it.
All went peacefully through a succession of prayers, readings, hymns until the moment in his homily when Cardinal Ernesto Corripio Ahumada of Mexico, the personal delegate of Pope John Paul II, began to praise Archbishop Romero as a man of peace and a foe of violence. Suddenly, a bomb exploded at the far edge of the plaza, seemingly in front of the National Palace, a government building. Next, gun shots, sharp and clear, echoed off the walls surrounding the plaza. At first, the cardinal's plea for all to remain calm seemed to have a steadying impact. But as another explosion reverberated, panic took hold and the crowd broke ranks and ran. Some headed for the side streets, but thousands more rushed up the stairs and fought their way into the cathedral.
More:
http://americamagazine.org/issue/100/report-romeros-funeral
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)The Salvadoran army killed about 900 civilians there in 1981, I think it was.
I actually met D'Aubuison during the 1984 presidential campaign in El Salvador. He had creepy snake eyes.
I met some union leaders there, too. Daniel Lopez Melendez and Febe Velasquez. They got blown up later.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)That's something you might not want to tell any small children before they go to sleep!
Wow.
Yes, that guy has always looked creepy in his photos, too. It must have creeped you out.
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Have seen references to Roberto, Jr., too, for years, a Senator, now:
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Creepy chip off the old sadistic block.[/center]
Don't forget Blowtorch Bob's old friend in the U.S. Senate, mega racist Jesse Helms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Helms
Wiki:
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Upon the Republican takeover of the Senate, Helms also became chairman of the Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere Affairs, promising to "review all our policies on Latin America", of which he had been severely critical under Carter.[171] He immediately focused on the escalating civil war in El Salvador, and particularly preventing Nicaraguan and Cuban support for guerrillas in El Salvador.[172] Within hours, the subcommittee approved military aid to El Salvador,[171] and later led the push to cut aid to Nicaragua.[173] Helms was assisted in pursuing the foreign policy realignment by John Carbaugh, whose influence the New York Times said "[rivalled] many of [the Senate's] more visible elected members".[174][175]
In El Salvador, Helms had close ties with the right-wing Salvadoran Nationalist Republican Alliance and its leader and death squad founder Roberto D'Aubuisson.[176][177][178] Helms said, "If I had found even one credible link between D'Aubuisson and the so-called 'death squads' ... I'd repudiate him instantly."[179] Helms opposed the appointment of Thomas R. Pickering as Ambassador to El Salvador.[179] alleged that the CIA had interfered in the Salvadoran election March and May 1984, in favor of the incumbent centre-left José Napoleón Duarte instead of D'Aubuisson,[180] claiming that Pickering had "used the cloak of diplomacy to strangle freedom in the night".[179] A CIA operative testifying to the Senate Intelligence Committee was alleged by Helms to have admitted rigging the election, but senators that attended have stated that, whilst the CIA operative admitted involvement, they did not make such an admission.[180] Helms disclosed details of CIA financial support for Duarte, earning a rebuke from Barry Goldwater, but Helms replied that his information came from sources in El Salvador, not the Senate committee.[181]
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)were murdered also by the right-wing.
Senseless, sadistic, evil. Typical right-wing behavior. In time the entire world is going to wake up. Lucky the people who will live to see it.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)Massacre in El Salvador during Oscar Romero's funeral
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)That would make the Catholic Church worth something. And bring it a little closer to the teachings of the Gospels. IMHO.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)in 11 parts, the first one starting here: