Not even sure why cars should be made that go over 65.
And the damn thing is, so many times the driver survives, but everyone else dies.

Like the people who go the wrong way on the thruway, expressway, interstate and get into head on collisons.

But then you like ANY authoritarian measures.

That makes no sense at all to this post.

that you are not an angel. And Clarence didn't order George off the bridge at the point of a gun.

What good did speeding do a rebel without a cause like James Dean?

Back in the late 1970s, a drunk driver ran a light and hit me after seeing Sinatra and Dean Martin in concert in Westchester.(NY, not in the city). Were the accident (and that was in a car prior to airbags) an inch different, wouldn't be here today. Nor would the people in my car.

as Kris Kristofferson sang "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose" is the freedom to wail on the beach after losing everything because of ones freedom.

Freedom to drive fast with no penalty or the thought of no penalty is not freedom to those that are killed in an accident.

I'd say Mike Bloomberg is a lot more similar to Mr. Potter, only not as ugly, not as honest - and a lot richer.

You mean stealing from the rich to give to the poor? Seems to me like he's simply another plutocrat on a power trip. The seventh richest man in America, supporter of brutal police tactics, defender of Citizens United and the Koch brothers, valiant destroyer of what remains of our safety net.

Somehow, I don't think Robin Hood would be responsible for this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022573238

It has nothing to do with guns. I'm a supporter of gun control legislation, I am not a supporter of authoritarian billionaires.

real people who least can afford it, pay big when they get sick by obesity and other things and save much money when well.

It is simple, don't overinduldge, don't get sick.

Savings of thousands a year in doctor bills.

Who will your scapegoat be next year, when he is just a private citizen ultra liberal like he was his first 60 years?

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That's got to be the funniest thing you've said today.
Is turning the NYPD thugs loose on the OWS protesters ultra liberal?
Is supporting Citizens United ultra liberal?
Is union busting tactics ultra liberal?
Is supporting the NYPD's racist stop and frisk policy ultra liberal?
Is wanting more surveillance of NYC citizens ultra liberal?

Bloomie is anything but an ultra liberal, he's an egotistical 1%'er control freak asshole.

is not scapegoating. Bloomberg has done these things - supported Citizens United, encouraged and supported brutal police tactics, dismantling programs that help the most unfortunate of us.

I don't need a scapegoat, I increasingly find that it is very simple to find despicable people who do despicable t, things that greatly contribute to the evils of our society overall. What has this man accomplished that makes you so adore him? I see authoritarian beliefs and practices, I see another rich man shitting all over the poor and working class. I see a man who wants to promote and enforce authoritarian legislation that will not apply to him. Do you think those traffic cameras would hold Bloomberg responsible if his driver went too fast?

Hiding cigarettes behind curtains... banning large sugary drinks, attempting to demonize anyone who disagrees with his authoritarian point of view.

I'm all for educating about the dangers of obesity. I'm not for letting a billionaire tell us what we can eat or drink. I'm not for giving more powerful tools to a police force already absurdly corrupt and violent.

and the moon being lasso'd would be authoritarian. How dare George Bailey want to rope the moon in.

As I recall, Clarence wore rags and had an ancient copy of Tom Sawyer as his only real possession beyond that. To lasso the moon was a romantic suggestion - not someone wanting to actually take the moon and put it in their backyard. George Bailey didn't want to rope the moon in, he wanted to go to college, to live an exciting life. Poor shmuck got married instead... but it is generally people like Mr. Potter and Mr. Bloomberg that force people like Mr. Bailey to work for the poor - because someone has to defend them from these predatory plutocrats.

I think it's funny that you compare Bloomberg to Clarence. Have you actually seen the movie? Clarence was a humble, funny little angel that didn't have a dollar in his pocket. Saving George was not an act of force - he jumped in so George would jump in and save him. Also note that Clarence didn't have a thing to say about sodas and tried to order an alcoholic beverage. I cannot find a single similarity between the fictional angel and the very real neo-liberal billionaire, other than the fact that they were both men.

If Bloomberg was an advocate for the poor, if he wasn't famous for actually shutting down the institutions that support them, I might have a very different opinion. Instead of tackling real issues like homelessness and poverty, he wants to stop people from drinking large sodas. Consider the prohibition, or the war on drugs. How successful were either? How successful is the war on drugs now? It is through education and legislation that promotes it, and not through force that we create progress in regards to wellness.

Yet even regarding education, your angel wants to replace public schools with charter schools. Why? Well, because there's money to be made...

because there's money in it for him somewhere, somehow.

you have more of a problem with drunk driving rather than the high speed limits. In case you didn't know Drunk Drivers usually don't refer to the "speed limit" and "rules of the road" when they decide to get behind the wheel drunk. I live in Texas, and I am all for the speed limit increase, there hasn't been any increase in fatalities, or wrecks as everyone has predicted, and the speed limit increases are on roads that are long, flat, and straight. Those are pretty safe to drive on. Here, you only go 85 in the left lane, if you do not feel comfortable going that fast there are slower lanes on the right...we don't seem to have all the issues everyone thought we would have.

10 should be the limit, if we can save one child.

We need to ban cars all together!!! Along with solid foods, if we can save one person from choking to death it will be worth it. I'm sure that graham guy above will be on board!

Make the roads look like a racetrack and then wonder why people use it that way.

instead of harassing those that haven't done anything wrong?

Hopefully the camera smashing in Europe comes to the US.

Okay, maybe we SHOULD have traffic cameras...

create a world where no one ever dies again. And he'll be as authoritarian and as ego-maniacal as he has to be.

Y'know, ya just can't always prevent people from behaving badly, no matter how much we would like to. Reality sucks sometimes.

Correct

because, frankly, I'd just as soon live my life the way I please, even if Bloomberg thinks it's inappropriate.

Agree more, I live in upstate NY away from the clutches of the 1% Bloomberg and soon will be moving to Wyoming.

I have had enough I am moving into the boonies where no one can really bother me and my family, NY has become to oppressive.

we'd welcome you.

His authoritarian views are not welcome here.

hasn't changed one little bit due to Mike's ego. He talks a big game but in reality the changes he has put in have no real effect on life.

I saw his ad on gun control targeting Sen. Heller for the first time yesterday here in NV, does he really believe that Sen. Heller, or Sen. Reid for that matter, really give a shit what he thinks?
NV. has always been, and will always be, a very independent minded state and we don't care for the likes of Bloomie and his control freak ideas.

Nevada does not want universal background checks like 90% of the rest of the country? And really, could you point out where Mike is controlling my life in any way at all? You sound awful defensive for somebody who claims they don't give a shit.

We do overwhelmingly support UBC, what we don't like is someone like Mike telling us what size soda we can buy, that we need more surveillance cameras, ie, traffic cams, turning an out of control police force on peaceful protesters.

You may or may not approve of him, but NV. is much more different than NY and his veiws of how to run a city would be wholly unwelcome here.

I don't even know why he's targeting Sen. Heller with that ad, he does support UBC.

people in NV what they should do about soda or traffic cams. I'm only aware of the gun stuff going national. Since we have so many drivers that blow through red lights and kill pedestrians, the cams would be pretty welcome in some neighborhoods.

What I said was that his views wouldn't be welcome here.

and he's just behaving as he naturally would in any environment.

That's probably how he made his money, but can you imagine him as a boss?

I hope I never have to live in a jurisdiction run by a tyrant, elected or not.

There are plenty of reasons for opposing speed cameras. To suggest that the people who don't support this legislation are responsible for the deaths of children is inaccurate, unfair - and overwhelmingly ignorant. There are better ways to get your point across than by misrepresenting people, making unfounded accusations - and generally acting like a talking ass.

I don't know if speed cameras are a good idea or not. I have heard that they work well in some places - and not at all in others. How would this work? You drive by... camera catches you going 30 in a 25, you get a fine? Camera catches you going 50 in a 25, you lose your license? Are we talking, primarily about school zones... or throughout the whole city?

I have never met anyone quite as eager as Bloomberg to sacrifice freedom for safety. He deserves neither.

protesters and illegally stop-and-search New York pedestrians.



And now he wants to engage in personal attacks because State lawmakers will not join him in further undermining the Constitution?

These cameras have been repeatedly proven to cause more accidents than they prevent. There are serious questions of their basic Constitutionality.

They should be eliminated from where they exist and no new ones should be installed. They serve no valuable purpose, and act as an unquestionable accuser if you try to fight the tickets resulting from them.

A bad idea, across the board.

the cams will be run by a private company which has been shown time and again that these companies have been caught cheating.

The camera makers for years have forcibly shoved their product down the throats of local governments who aren't smart enough to know better as "revenue growers"...

I'm guessing whoever runs the camera company is a friend of Bloomberg (or a friend of a friend), and through back channels had assurances that Albany was a done deal...

"Think of our ability to TRACK YOUR TRAVELS 24/7!!"

You get the idea ..

Thought of the possibilities, and it gives me the chills to think about it. People hate the thought of drones overhead just think about when they tell you they want to watch your bathroom visits.

This is another thread about what a great guy he is: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022573238

All this nanny statism is not liberal at all. It's right wing, authoritarian fascist crap. This guy just can't get any more big brother, in your face Gestapo, can he?

What a douchebag.

Have a joy joy day!

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then obviously they are doing something right.
Seems Bloomie has been getting spanked more and more lately.

I own a mansion and a yacht.

I have a lot of money
therefore
I have a lot of power
therefore
I can tell people what to do and how to do it
because
I am the closest thing to god on earth.
and
I think everybody should have a camera installed up their ass
to ensure the safety of all. (except the NYPD)

"All men wanna be rich; rich men wanna be king; and
a king ain't satisfied 'til he rules everything." -- The Boss

he is

.. commit to donating EVERY GODDAM CENT of profit from these cameras to a children's charity, I will believe their lying asses.

He is an example of the worst kind of demagogue the GOP can produce.