Newtown Gunman Had Large Weapons Cache: Court Papers (New Details: Mom, Son Both NRA Certificates)
Source: Reuters
@Reuters: Newtown gunman and mother had certificates from National Rifle Association - court papers #breaking
@BreakingNews: Estimated time from Adam Lanza shooting his way into Newtown until taking his own life was less than 5 minutes, court papers show - @NBCNews
@Reuters: Newtown gunman Adam Lanza had several additional firearms not used in the attack and hundreds of rounds of ammunition http://t.co/P7irJImtmW
Newtown school gunman had large weapons cache: court papers
Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:27am EDT
By Mary Ellen Clark
MERIDEN, Connecticut (Reuters) - The gunman who attacked a Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school in December had several additional firearms not used in the attack and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, according to court papers released on Thursday.
Connecticut officials released dozens of pages of court documents on their investigation into Adam Lanza, a 20-year old man who killed his mother, 20 first grade school children and six staff members before turning a gun on himself in the second deadliest school shooting on record in the United States.
A 90-day sealing order expired on the search warrants that were served on Lanza's home and property. The search also turned up certificates from the National Rifle Association gun-lobby group in the names of both Adam Lanza and his mother, Nancy Lanza.
The assault last December 14 at the Sandy Hook Elementary School prompted President Barack Obama to call it the worst day of his presidency and reignited a debate on gun violence in the United States. In response to the attack, the NRA called for armed guards to patrol every public school in the country.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92R0EM20130328
samsingh
(17,598 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&q=494614&desppNav_GID=2080
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)For a safe driving course.
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)I bet those certificates had something about freedoms & liberties .... good chance
they had bald eagles and America Flags too.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)He was under the age of 21. She must have bought them and gave them to her sun as "gifts".
penndragon69
(788 posts)she would not dream of locking up her weapons because
the UN might be kicking down her door any second.
cuckoo cuckoo !
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Hmmmmm.
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Hissyspit posted this link downthread: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/28/nra-literature-discovered-in-newtown-shooters-home/
And after reading your comment this stood out to me:
What is the law in Connecticut regarding age and firearm ownership?
csziggy
(34,136 posts)State law does not set a minimum age requirement for possessing handguns. But the law (with one minor exception) prohibits transferring a handgun to anyone under age 21 (CGS § 29-34(b)). And it requires that an applicant for an eligibility certificate or gun permit be at least age 21 (CGS §§ 29-28 and 29-36f). (Federal law prohibits federal firearms licensees (FFLs) from transferring handguns to anyone under age 21. It, with exceptions, prohibits nondealer transfers to, and possession by, people under age 18. But the state's 21-year age requirement for transfers supersedes this federal provision.)
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0369.htm
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Lanza could have purchased the gun legally (in this case with money from his mother) but could not apply for a eligibility certificate until he was 21?
Am I understanding this correctly?
csziggy
(34,136 posts)What I see is that there is nothing preventing a minor from owning a gun, but he can't get a permit and no one can transfer a gun to him until he is 21. I don't see a legal way for a minor to get a gun.
But if their parent allows them free access to the parent's guns, I guess that is moot.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Parents allowing their minor children, especially those with "issues", from using their guns. Personally, I am not in favor of even SPOUSES being able to be given gun gifts without background checks or using their spouses guns. Been there, done that, and raised the roof on this issue with my NRA husband.
penndragon69
(788 posts)That we started tracking ammunition sales along with
internet purchases of magazines, body armor and other tactical
gear sold both locally and through the internet?
Seems to me that if we had such records, the FBI could flag special
excessive purchases for special review. Who knows, it might have helped
prevent some of the mass shootings we've had since the
assault weapons ban expired.
A weapon is harmless if you don't have ammo or high capacity
clips easily available.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)I don't trust mentally ill people with guns and ammo weather they're civilian or government employees.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)Perhaps you should stay put in the RKBA group.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Public info for people who want to watch big brother's activities.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)it? Because they are all bullshit. If not, I have no idea what you're talking about.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp
hack89
(39,171 posts)many shooters by ammo in bulk to save money. When I buy, I always combine my order with three or four friends.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)If they had been certificates from the Communist Chinese Party would it have made any difference?
What next a book burning of all subversive literature?
We're becoming a regular Fahrenheit 451 society.
Maybe microchips were planted in them foil lined certificates.
The media cracks me up.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)@RawStory: NRA literature discovered in Newtown shooter's home: http://t.co/tlbV6iOEaw
B2G
(9,766 posts)and your point is?
frylock
(34,825 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Not
frylock
(34,825 posts)really, get some new material.
Progressive dog
(6,902 posts)Too bad you're trying to be serious.
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)Didn't the NRA deny that either of these two had anything to do with them?
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)moondust
(19,981 posts)Isn't that what NRA certification makes you? Hello Wayne?
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)the copy of Call of Duty found there as well.
hockeynut57
(230 posts)but you'll have to take my game controller from my cold, dead hands
Blandocyte
(1,231 posts)Surprised? Why is this fact an important topic for a news story? I'd just assumed that mom was an NRA member. Whether they were members of NRA, or cub scouts, or Hair Club for Men seems irrelevant to the important facts of the horrific crime. I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone by not seeing the importance of the NRA membership/certificates.
To me, the lack of a certificate for involuntarily hospitalizing the young man is a much more important facet of the story. But I still have to have my 2nd cup of coffee, so will continue to ponder.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)gun violence legislation and has a member who is a mass murderer.
Blandocyte
(1,231 posts)Clever stuff, that.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)It's mbers are dupes in my opinion. Both groups are working against attempts to prevent a future mass killing so I would say in part the NRA will be complicit in a future mass killing.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)If someone commits a crime using a weapon or bullet, the seller/dealer/manufacturer should get 10% of the criminal sentence the gunslinger gets
If its 25 years, then a gun seller/dealer/manufacturer should get 2.5 years of hard time
Because when one wins a lottery, the seller automatically gets 10%.
Same bonanza should apply
B2G
(9,766 posts)There were also 2 books on Aspergers.
Those who scream about the NRA being to blame are the first to point out that there is no correlation between Aspergers and violent tendencies.
otohara
(24,135 posts)I wish she were still alive -
I'd love to hear her explanation for all this....
davepc
(3,936 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)didn't she ever go into her basement and take a look around? There were many red flags right in her big suburban home and all she did was feed the ticking time bomb which was her son.
For a woman who had so much, including money, education...what the fuck was she thinking?
That's like giving your kids drugs if they have a drug problem.
Would you go out and buy an arsenal if you had a troubled teen/young adult male?
What laws? As far as I know, guns are a dime a dozen in any state and laws don't exist at gun shows.
She followed the loose gun laws - woop dee do.
If only she followed her kid more closely and took the time to read some of his crazy shit.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)of completion for the NRA's Basic Pistol Course is a REQUIREMENT under CT State law to obtain a CT State Pistol Permit or Eligibility to Purchase. http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&q=494614&desppNav_GID=2080
Paladin
(28,257 posts)Maybe the NRA has some sort of posthumous good conduct medal for him.
(Sarcasm alert, for those who need it.)