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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:49 AM Apr 2013

McCain ‘Favorably Disposed’ To Gun Background Checks Bill

Source: TPM

SAHIL KAPUR 9:34 AM EDT, MONDAY APRIL 15, 2013

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) gave the Manchin-Toomey gun legislation the thumbs up over the weekend, saying he's "very favorably disposed" to their compromise proposal to expand mandatory background checks for gun sales.

"I'm very favorbly disposed," McCain said on CNN's "State of the Union." "Eighty percent of the American people want to see a better background check procedure." But he said he still has some questions and left a bit of room to oppose it.

"The Internet aspect of it, which I need more explanations -- greater explanation of, but, look, I appreciate their work," he said. "And the American people want to do what we can to prevent these tragedies. And there's a lot more that needs to be done particularly in the area of mental health."

Asked if it's something he thinks he could vote for, McCain responded, "Yes -- I've got to give them credit. And I want to look at it, but I'm very favorably disposed."

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Susan Collins To Support Manchin-Toomey Gun Bill

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) gave the Manchin-Toomey background check compromise a boost over the weekend by becoming the third Republican to support it, along with Sens. Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Mark Kirk (R-IL).

"I have decided to support the bipartisan compromise authored by Senators Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey to strengthen the background check system without in any way infringing on Second Amendment rights," she said in a statement, calling it a "vast improvement" over universal background check proposals which she said included provisions that were "onerous and completely unnecessary."

Collins kept her options open on the final legislation that emerges after amendments.

"The Manchin-Toomey amendment is a proposal I can and will support," she said, "but it is impossible to predict at this point the final composition of the overall legislation."

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femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. Does anyone remember...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:52 AM
Apr 2013

Didn't McCain support closing the "gun show loophole" when he ran for president?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
3. I have no problem with amendments,
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:04 AM
Apr 2013

as long as they are reasonable.
I could go along with a CC national reciprocity as long as there was a national training standard to get the national license, like a thorough background check, intense training on the use of force, rigorous training of marksmanship.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
5. Of course you would have no problem. That is no problem to the ones who want guns
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:07 AM
Apr 2013

But ...

however...

the amendments might be the best single thing ever to happen if one is looking at that
steps ahead program.

Indeed, it might the key

or it might not be

Sometimes one can have the right pair of roller skates and the brand new key
Sometimes one has to go to a locksmith and get a new key

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. Hey Groucho, what is the word of the day
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:09 AM
Apr 2013

national reciprocity

or as Doris in White Christmas said "Mutual, I'm sure"

as Bing Crosby said in White Christmas "Everybody has an angle"

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
7. Hey friend,
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:18 AM
Apr 2013

I've only owned 2 guns in my life, unless you count what I carried in Vietnam, which wasn't mine really, just loaned to me, a Colt .357 and a 12 ga. shotgun which haven't been out of my safe, except for cleaning, in about 10 years, so don't try to hang a gun label on me.

There are currently 49 states that have some sort of CC laws on their books, and IL will have one in the near future, so, why not make it a national license with rigorous training?
I forgot to add that I would also support a mental health screening to the curriculum.

Despite your fondest wishes, firearms in this country are not going away and the SCOTUS isn't going to ban or re-interpret the 2A, so you might as well forget that, or don't, and work toward what is really attainable, things like, more comprehensive background checks, better enforcement of existing laws, more stringent penalties of straw purchases, better mental health care.

These things are wholly doable, not your fantasy of a complete ban of firearms.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
8. national reciprocity is going to create a state/federal constitutional crisis
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:26 AM
Apr 2013

heller was a reinterpretation

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
10. Heller is another issue for another time,
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:34 AM
Apr 2013

right now we're talking about a national reciprocity amendment to the gun bill currently being debated in the Senate.

Maybe it will or won't create a state/federal constitutional crisis, let's at least get it out there and see if it can be hammered out.
You're not going to please everyone, everytime.
And you could be right, an amendment could scuttle the whole bill, we'll just have to wait and see what comes down the pike.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
9. Sounds reasonable. With some 300 million guns out there, the hope of banning them is zero.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:28 AM
Apr 2013

That straw purchases is a very significant problem was demonstrated very recently in Colorado when a person purchased a gun for a convicted felon who used it to kill a prison official and most likely a pizza delivery employee.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
11. My belief is that a beefed up background check system
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:36 AM
Apr 2013

and more stringent enforcement of current gun laws will do much more than any AWB would ever do, I would also support a mag. capacity limit, much like what CO. just passed.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
12. Reciprocity doesn't mean a "national license"
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:57 AM
Apr 2013

it requires states to recognize other state licenses and the licensee to abide by the laws of the state they are in...like motor vehicle license reciprocity. It likely will only outline the most minimal standard for state licensure leaving the state to do the minimum or opt to exceed the minimums..

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
13. Ahh.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:01 PM
Apr 2013

Thank you for the correction. I do think that if their is a national reciprocity, there should be a set of national standards for the license.

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