Vatican Reaffirms Plan To Scrutinize U.S. Nuns
Source: NPR
Pope Francis' doctrinal chief has reaffirmed the Vatican's intention to overhaul the largest organization of U.S. nuns, dashing the hopes of some that the newly installed pontiff would take a more conciliatory approach than his predecessor.
The Leadership Conference of Women Religious, an umbrella group that represents about 80 percent of nuns in the United States, was chastised last year by the Vatican's Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith for adopting "radical feminist" views. It was ordered to undergo by Vatican-appointed bishops.
... NPR's John Burnett reports that in a meeting with Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, the head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, and Archbishop J. Peter Sartain of Seattle, who was appointed last year to oversee the five-year process, the sisters were told that the pope had "reaffirmed the findings" of the earlier investigation and that the "program of reform" will continue. ....
Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/04/16/177494224/vatican-reaffirms-plan-to-scrutinize-u-s-nuns
The Church is no democracy, it is a Holy Patriarchy.
cvoogt
(949 posts)Maybe background checks for all nuns, whether at a nun show or in a private.
markiv
(1,489 posts)something to think about
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)in another lifetime
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)markiv
(1,489 posts)cvoogt
(949 posts)No seriously, I think priests and nuns should be allowed to marry. Also, I believe assault nuns should be limited to 10 clips per magazine.
markiv
(1,489 posts)and frankly, i'd ban them if i had half a chance
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . of something that happened at a Christmas party I and two roommates hosted in the late '80s, a couple of years after I graduated from college. One of those roommates, Anna, was a classmate of mine from Westminster Choir College, and was, at the time a music teacher at St. Hilda's & St. Hugh's, a private Episcopal day school on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, founded and operated by the good sisters of the Community of the Holy Spirit, an Episcopal order of nuns. Anna became very good friends with one of the sisters (I'll call her Sister X) who was also on the music faculty of the school, and so she invited this particular sister to our party.
Now, this order of nuns was (likely still is) very traditional in its discipline and dress (although theologically progressive). The nuns wore a traditional habit just like the one in your photo. Sister X very much wanted to come to the party, but she had to obtain permission from her Mother Superior (who was also the order's founder). Mother Superior was rather skeptical of the whole affair, but after much pleading and cajoling, gave her permission for Sister X to attend. And attend she did: somewhere, there's a picture of rather androgynous nun, in a habit just like the one in your photo, sitting in our apartment with a Heineken in hand! (But wait: that's not the good part . . .)
We had a huge turnout at the party. At one point, I introduced my friend Frank (a close friend to my boyfriend and me at the time) to Sister X. But I found it really strange when Frank, in a manner very out of character for him, began peppering Sister X with rather off-color questions. Finally, Anna and I called Frank aside and asked him what was going on, and why was he speaking to Anna's colleague in such a manner? Frank said, "Wait, you mean he's . . . she's . . .not . . .?" Turns out Frank had decided to pull a practical joke on me and my boyfriend, so he had contacted a male stripper and arranged for him to show up. Frank assumed, when he saw this nun (whose gender was somewhat indeterminate under the habit she was wearing), that "she" was actually the male stripper he had booked, and that the nun's costume was part of his schtick. All of us had a great laugh over that one, including, I'm happy to say, Sister X!
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)that would cause the Pope and the Church to recognize the contribution by women to the Church. Nuns are teachers and nurses in Catholic schools and hospitals. Some sort of organized work stoppage by them would really put the Catholic Church in a bind.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . which also has some very remarkable orders of nuns and monks, and a very similar style of liturgical worship.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)to first scrutinize the priests.
caraher
(6,278 posts)Still, it's disappointing that Pope Francis sees fit to carry on Benedict's purge... especially since the nuns actually fought for the kind of attention to the poor Francis champions. But I guess we're at the point where Catholicism is primarily about fetus worship.
Bucky
(54,027 posts)"You sistahs are some foxy ladies. You look like you could really boogie down, baybee!"
paulk
(11,586 posts)Actually, it's a bunch of old men more in touch with the fifteenth century than the twenty-first.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Giordano Bruno burned at stake by the Church.
The numerous charges against Bruno, based on some of his books as well as on witness accounts, included blasphemy, immoral conduct, and heresy in matters of dogmatic theology, and involved some of the basic doctrines of his philosophy and cosmology.
Holding opinions contrary to the Catholic Faith and speaking against it and its ministers. Holding erroneous opinions about the Trinity, about Christ's divinity and Incarnation. Holding erroneous opinions about Christ. Holding erroneous opinions about Transubstantiation and Mass. Claiming the existence of a plurality of worlds and their eternity. Believing in metempsychosis and in the transmigration of the human soul into brutes. Dealing in magics and divination. Denying the Virginity of Mary.
On February 16, 1600, the Roman Catholic Church executed Giordano Bruno, Italian philosopher and scientist, for the crime of heresy. He was taken from his cell in the early hours of the morning to the Piazza dei Fiori in Rome and burnt alive at the stake.
In the words of the latest gift from god = "Back to the Good Old Days"
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)"You little ladies need to STFU, get back in the kitchen, and make us some coffee."
- US Supreme Court (R)
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)women who got on a bus and tried to protect the interests of the poor, elderly, and disenfranchised. And who very entertainingly smacked Paul Ryan around.
Seriously. There needs to be an organization that actually does "what Jesus would do" and tells the bishops and the pope to go screw themselves. For a change.
Cause that's what I bet Jesus would do.
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)OK, yes it is
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)And to think that there were people here so easily fooled by this guy, just because he rode the bus to work.
The pope will throw everyone under that bus in order to keep it on the same road into the past, the future be damned.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)... that once the daily Vatican report turned to the subject of women in the church, it's treated as a running joke here.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)better watch out.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)had made a list of future popes. This new pope is the last one in both
their lists. They simply named no other.
Now, what's that supposed to mean? Your guess is as good as mine.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)and this one of course is Francis.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)been used as a synonym for the pope.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)And after 1590 they are gibberish, so it was thought that they were written looking backward from that time frame.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)... maybe they're acting medieval?