Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri May 10, 2013, 10:02 PM May 2013

Newtown Panel Recommends Tearing Down Sandy Hook Elementary, Rebuilding on Same Site.

Source: Associated Press

@AP: BREAKING: Newtown panel recommends tearing down Sandy Hook elementary, rebuilding on same site. -MM

Sandy Hook school to be demolished, new school built on same site

Published: Friday, May 10, 2013

NEWTOWN — A taskforce in Newtown has voted to demolish the current Sandy Hook school building and build a new school on the same site.

The panel of 28 elected officials had narrowed the choices to three: renovating Sandy Hook Elementary School, tearing it down and building a new school on the same site or tearing it down and building a new school on nearby property.

The taskforce struggled last Friday to move toward a recommendation before a crowd of more than 90 people, as members discussed options that weren't among the finalists. The town consultant, Richard Harwood, president of The Harwood Institute in Bethesda, Md., said the panel will likely make a decision Friday night.

The panel's recommendation would then go to the local school board and ultimately go before voters as a referendum.

Read more: http://nhregister.com/articles/2013/05/10/news/doc518cf38355f9c515124674.txt

33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Newtown Panel Recommends Tearing Down Sandy Hook Elementary, Rebuilding on Same Site. (Original Post) Hissyspit May 2013 OP
Now....that's what I call balls...... slingsam May 2013 #1
I wonder what money is available to help with any of those options. It would be hard, no matter what uppityperson May 2013 #2
Gun culture wastes so much money. nt onehandle May 2013 #3
I'm not big on sentimentality. naaman fletcher May 2013 #4
Sounds wasteful to me. Captain Stern May 2013 #5
Demolish Rebuild Somewhere Else erpowers May 2013 #6
I agree with you davidpdx May 2013 #13
Agreed. Ash_F May 2013 #17
You've got to be kidding. Deep13 May 2013 #7
The building may be structurally the same, aside from superficial alterations, quakerboy May 2013 #18
True, but will a new building make a difference in their lives? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2013 #25
Tearing the building down is not environmentally friendly AndyA May 2013 #8
Painting won't work. progressoid May 2013 #10
Oh yeah, tavalon May 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author caseymoz May 2013 #20
Either you misread or I mispoke tavalon May 2013 #31
Hey, I'm sorry. We agree. caseymoz May 2013 #32
Everyone is full of opinions adamuu May 2013 #9
It's their school, their decision. geomon666 May 2013 #11
... and their money? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2013 #26
I think they should renovate. blackspade May 2013 #12
Ditto illegaloperation May 2013 #16
Tavalon Panel recommends Tearing Down the NRA. No Need To Rebuild tavalon May 2013 #14
I live in CT and am actually in the same congressional district as Newtown. Jennicut May 2013 #19
Wasteful, but necessary. caseymoz May 2013 #21
Rebuild somewhere else obama2terms May 2013 #22
They should issue a special tax on gun manufactureres to build it. MichiganVote May 2013 #23
Here in PA, the Nickel Mines Amish tore down and rebuilt their school BumRushDaShow May 2013 #24
It's just a building and that is so wastefull of a good school building. remodel actual classroom Sunlei May 2013 #27
give it to homeless people Marblehead May 2013 #28
The school was built in the 60's Travis_0004 May 2013 #29
It should be funded by a tax on assault rifles. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #30
What the fuck? I guess most people do think Guns are Magical Gods. harmonicon May 2013 #33

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
5. Sounds wasteful to me.
Fri May 10, 2013, 10:29 PM
May 2013

Why not keep the existing Sandy Hook School open AND build another school on a different site?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
13. I agree with you
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:53 AM
May 2013

While some are using the reasoning that the building didn't kill anyone, certainly the memory of the building will haunt the community for years. Psychologically I would think it would be easier for the children to go to a new school on a new site. I think choosing to rebuild the school was a good call.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
17. Agreed.
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:23 AM
May 2013

The gravity of the crime that took place there is massive. It would be hard on the survivors, but even those who weren't there would be haunted by the stories.

I realize frugality is popular these days, but still.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
7. You've got to be kidding.
Fri May 10, 2013, 10:49 PM
May 2013

The building didn't kill anyone. It's the same building as it was before the murders.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
18. The building may be structurally the same, aside from superficial alterations,
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:07 AM
May 2013

But the kids who went there, the teachers who taught there, and the parents who took their kids there are not the same.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
8. Tearing the building down is not environmentally friendly
Fri May 10, 2013, 10:55 PM
May 2013

The building isn't responsible for the deaths.

What happened there was horrific, but tearing the building down will just cause more damage to the environment, and we can't start tearing every structure down where there's been a tragedy.

I think they should remodel/repaint to give it a somewhat different look, fix any security issues, and reopen. I also think it would be nice to do something to honor the lives that were lost--something positive, like planting trees or a garden, name the classrooms, or something of that nature. The little kids who died loved that school, from what I understand.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
10. Painting won't work.
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:15 PM
May 2013

My brother was a teacher. He was killed three years ago this month in an accident. His students loved him. His death still affects them. Some still have a hard time just walking into his old room. What happened is Newton is a thousand times more traumatic. It's going to take a lot more than just paint.



tavalon

(27,985 posts)
15. Oh yeah,
Sat May 11, 2013, 01:08 AM
May 2013

I had a bad outcome with a patient nearly 8 years ago and still get nauseated when I have to go into that OR.

Response to tavalon (Reply #15)

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
31. Either you misread or I mispoke
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:54 PM
May 2013

And I'm a nurse. I'm mad that no gun regulation was ordered. I know that those kids going to that school is now unacceptable, or should be. I'm well aware of the trauma of walking back into a place where such a horror happened. Look further down on the posts.

I know how little money is given to schools. I would rather that lots of money wasn't poured into getting rid of this building but enshrining it and finding another place for the kids to go to school would be good. I want those NRA bastards to have to see those beautiful but very dead children every day of their lives.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
32. Hey, I'm sorry. We agree.
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:58 PM
May 2013

I interpreted the statement standing alone as sarcasm, by an MD. My apology.

So, I'm taking it down. No reason for it to stand. I agree with you 100%. Good plan.

adamuu

(2,099 posts)
9. Everyone is full of opinions
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:05 PM
May 2013

But no one here served on that board and hheard the residents' complete point of view.
Amiright

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
11. It's their school, their decision.
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:34 PM
May 2013

Can't say I blame them for wanting that building gone though. Those are some bad memories.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
26. ... and their money?
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:12 AM
May 2013

If so, then who can criticize the decision. I think that school district has some wealth. Nice place.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
12. I think they should renovate.
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:51 PM
May 2013

Demolishing it sends the wrong message.
Renovation speaks to the strength of the community to acknowledge the tragedy and move on.
That said, I understand the desire to lessen the pain by removing the reminder.
It just seems so wasteful.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
14. Tavalon Panel recommends Tearing Down the NRA. No Need To Rebuild
Sat May 11, 2013, 01:07 AM
May 2013

I'm not against this idea per se, but I would like to see the money spent to bring gun laws back into the land of sanity or some place near it. If the standing memorial of Sandy Hook and those beautiful, beautiful children gunned down can't back the NRA right the fuck off, I fear nothing will.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
19. I live in CT and am actually in the same congressional district as Newtown.
Sat May 11, 2013, 07:09 AM
May 2013

I live about six towns away in the Terryville section of Plymouth. I agree with this decision. If the same thing happened at the school my girls go to I don't know if they could handle being there again. As the mom of elementary school kids I totally understand. I hope they can find the money to do this. You have to understand that the kids, families, the state and even our governor have been very traumatized by this. People need to start over.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
22. Rebuild somewhere else
Sat May 11, 2013, 07:20 AM
May 2013

And possibly rename the school, hopefully there shouldn't be a trace of reminder of the horror that took place at that school.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
24. Here in PA, the Nickel Mines Amish tore down and rebuilt their school
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:22 AM
May 2013

which was the site of a school shooting where 10 were shot and 5 died back in 2006 -

http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/471039_Nickel-Mines--5-Years-Later--A-daily-walk-for-Amish-on-path-of-grief-and-forgiveness.html?page=all

There are a couple survivors who are still recovering (one who is essentially paralyzed). Because the Amish tend towards privacy, this story faded from the memory but it illustrates some of the dynamics behind healing the emotional scars by washing clean (in the figurative sense) and starting over. By maintaining something with a sordid past, there would always be distractions from the primary focus of a school - learning.

In the Nickel Mines case, it was essentially not much more than a 1 room building, which the community rebuilt themselves... and in Sandy Hook, the cost of doing similar would be a major concern given the size and population differential... However for piece of mind and moving on, I would agree with them doing this...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. It's just a building and that is so wastefull of a good school building. remodel actual classroom
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:29 AM
May 2013

into an outside garden area or another use room, and leave the rest of the school alone.

I know the Amish rebuilt their school but that was just a tiny one room school.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
29. The school was built in the 60's
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:17 AM
May 2013

I don't know what condition the building is in. If its getting older, and they were planning to tear in down in a few years, then I have no problem with them moving the date up, and starting now.

If the school was newer, and built recently, I think it would be a waste of money.

Either way, its not my money, so put the issue on a ballot, and lot the voters decide on a levy.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
33. What the fuck? I guess most people do think Guns are Magical Gods.
Sun May 12, 2013, 09:31 AM
May 2013

The building is now full of Gun Spells which can only be cleansed by destroying the building itself. Just fixing the damage wouldn't get rid of the bad Gun Juju. Just as we must not anger the Magical Gun God by even pointing out truthful things about guns, we must not interfere with His divine providence. Gun-God has claimed those bricks as his own with Gun Power, and we must never use them for anything else now.

That was some mighty effective terrorist action in Newtown, apparently. Not only did many people die, but through the force of psychological terror, it's going to cause people to destroy their own buildings and needlessly spend too much money. The message? Terrorism works a charm!

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Newtown Panel Recommends ...