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alp227

(32,026 posts)
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:30 AM May 2013

Larger Union That Enforces Immigration Opposes Bill

Source: nyt

A labor union representing 12,000 federal officers who issue immigration documents will join forces on Monday with the union representing deportation agents to publicly oppose a bill overhauling the immigration system that is making its way through the Senate, arguing that the legislation would weaken public safety.

The two unions represent a total of 20,000 employees in the Department of Homeland Security who would play a central role in carrying out the ambitious legislation, either by reviewing applications from millions of immigrants who could gain new legal status through the bill or by expelling illegal immigrants who did not qualify.

A letter to Congress that excoriates the Senate proposal, and that the immigration officers’ union signed for the first time, reveals simmering unrest among Homeland Security employees, who have been asked to carry out broad and fast-paced immigration policy shifts by the Obama administration. Deportation agents have been instructed to focus heavily on removing serious criminal offenders, while immigration officers have been urged to accelerate their decisions on granting legal papers and reprieves from deportation.

The criticism of the bill from inside the system gives new political fuel to its most staunch opponents — among them Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama — when they had been battling on the defensive.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/us/politics/larger-union-enforcing-immigration-opposes-overhaul.html

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Larger Union That Enforces Immigration Opposes Bill (Original Post) alp227 May 2013 OP
Disgusting. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #1
Immigration, including HB1 visa workers, have always, always been used to lower wages. fasttense May 2013 #2
I agree. juajen May 2013 #4
but they do jobs Americans wont do markiv May 2013 #5
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth May 2013 #3

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
1. Disgusting.
Mon May 20, 2013, 02:44 AM
May 2013

But its not the first time we've seen this. Prison workers Unions have been fighting for destructive legislation for decades.

Union unfortunately doesn't always equal good. I will always support the rights of people to organize and make a better life for themselves but this steps into disgusting territory and totally disregards the concept of solidarity. We should be organizing these fine people not throwing them out of our country.



Phil Ochs sang about bullshit like this decades ago.





 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
2. Immigration, including HB1 visa workers, have always, always been used to lower wages.
Mon May 20, 2013, 07:54 AM
May 2013

There is no other reason for bringing in masses of cheap labor. It's all done for the rich capitalist so he can make more money by paying the people who do the work less and less and less.

Yes, I feel sorry for poor people in other countries. But they have absolutely NO Right to come here and work. I don't think we should deport immigrants, nor do I think they should be prosecuted. I just think they should not be allowed to work here and those people who employ them illegally should be fined and imprisoned.

Farm migrant workers should Not be allowed either. If farmers, like me, can't pay a decent salary to their workers then they don't deserve to run a farm. Why should huge farms be allowed to get cheap labor and then compete with people like me who are required to follow the law.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
4. I agree.
Mon May 20, 2013, 08:44 AM
May 2013

I feel torn, always, between wanting everyone to have a better place to live, and the people who exploit them and our local unemployed and underpaid laborers.

IT workers are also being destroyed by cheap labor from India, and American companies should be penalized when they strangle our USA workers for the benefit of bigger and Scrooge-like corporations whose profits are enormous and whose executive salaries are scandelous.

Slavery is back and the whip wielders are disguised as Microsoft, IBM and Apple, not to mention huge agribusinesses who swamp the little farmers we have depended on for centuries. A fond goodbye to the great middle class many of us were born enjoying. Shame on the USA! I desperately want to hear that wonderful refrain, "Look for the Union label."

We are serfs and the war cry is "Damn the Unions; Full Speed Ahead."

We all need to buy and support, verbally, USA made goods. While we cannot always work our budget without "imported goods" , we can up our percentage of made in the USA purchases. We need to stop stomping on our own feet. It hurts, it really hurts.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
5. but they do jobs Americans wont do
Mon May 27, 2013, 11:22 PM
May 2013

like field work (which I've done)

like washing dishes (which I've done)

like fast food (which I've done)

like small electronics factory work (which I've done)

like computer programming (which I;ve done)

My family has been in the midwest since the 1850s, yet I've never become an American, because I've done all the jobs 'Americans wont do'

(and so did all of my classmates, in the college town I grew up in, they may not have done all of them, but all did some of them)

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