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brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
Thu May 23, 2013, 03:19 PM May 2013

Boehner: House won’t pass Senate immigration bill

Source: Washington Times

House Speaker John A. Boehner on Thursday flatly ruled out chances of the House passing the Senate’s immigration bill, saying his chamber will debate its own bill instead.

Mr. Boehner and his top GOP lieutenants issued a joint statement that seemed designed to tamp down some of the momentum behind the Senate bill, which emerged from a Senate committee on a bipartisan 13-5 vote earlier this week, and to stake out a House GOP position.

“While we applaud the progress made by our Senate colleagues, there are numerous ways in which the House will approach the issue differently,” the GOP leaders said in their statement. “The House remains committed to fixing our broken immigration system, but we will not simply take up and accept the bill that is emerging in the Senate if it passes. Rather, through regular order, the House will work its will and produce its own legislation.”

Mr. Boehner is playing a proxy game of political checkers with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi as a bipartisan gang of lawmakers tries to write a broad immigration deal that would include legal status for illegal immigrants and a rewrite of the legal immigration system.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/23/boehner-house-wont-pass-senate-immigration-bill/



I believe the House Bill calls for moats with alligators and stone walls with kettles of boiling oil...
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Boehner: House won’t pass Senate immigration bill (Original Post) brooklynite May 2013 OP
Why would the republicans change now? liberal N proud May 2013 #1
The Washington Times is considered a reliable news source on DU? DonViejo May 2013 #2
if Boner was quoted by the AP of CNN would that make them not reliable news sources? msongs May 2013 #4
For quoting Republicans, sure it's reliable. geek tragedy May 2013 #5
see my comment, #8, below nt DonViejo May 2013 #10
For news relating to the Republicans? brooklynite May 2013 #7
Sorry, I learned to detest and not rely on the Times, even when it's news about Republicans, DonViejo May 2013 #8
Hmmm, was the original intent for Senators (ahem Rubio) to look good without having to okaawhatever May 2013 #3
Boehner everyone knows by now Rs hate immigrants, especially hispanics. Sunlei May 2013 #6
Maybe instead of going for the Latino vote, they are going after the tech worker vote... cascadiance May 2013 #9
DC is a shell game... awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #11
Boy, I can't wait until some of those "safe districts" start EC May 2013 #12
That's what it may take to get immigration though davidpdx May 2013 #14
Maybe it's time for a progressive that rents and is ready to move EC May 2013 #15
I'm against this bill as well. MrSlayer May 2013 #13
He's holding out for extra visas for Oompa Loompa Land KamaAina May 2013 #16
""A house divided against itself cannot stand." - Abe Lincoln olddad56 May 2013 #17
Boner DOES sound as if he thinks the House is a separate government. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #19
In related news: WaPo - Can Tea Party conservatives kill immigration reform? pampango May 2013 #18

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Sorry, I learned to detest and not rely on the Times, even when it's news about Republicans,
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:39 PM
May 2013

while working for two investigative reporters/authors during the "Get Clinton" period in the 90's. One of those reporters told me, "the Times is reliable for news about the Pentagon only, nothing else."

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
3. Hmmm, was the original intent for Senators (ahem Rubio) to look good without having to
Thu May 23, 2013, 03:31 PM
May 2013

actually reform immigration. All the publicity, none of the reality? We want to reform immigration, it's the lower chamber. Sorry latinos vote for us anyway.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. Boehner everyone knows by now Rs hate immigrants, especially hispanics.
Thu May 23, 2013, 03:56 PM
May 2013

How many corpses are in your Az. potters field of poor desert walkers who have to by-bass your trillion dollar fence? 8,000-10,000?

how many are in the graveyard of people who drowned in the Az. water canal that refused to place safety ladders out of the water? 10,000 more?

McCain that's your state, do you and Boehner have investments in the private for profit immigration prisons or something?

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
9. Maybe instead of going for the Latino vote, they are going after the tech worker vote...
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:40 PM
May 2013

who wants this bill loaded with the H-1B Visa GARBAGE in it removed, thought that was largely the doing of Orrin Hatch and corporatist Democrats in the Senate.

I won't fall for it, but in a way, I'm actually hoping that they succeed in voting it down, so that perhaps in the Senate they can go back to making it a CLEAN bill so that we can have a clear referendum about what those in congress are voting for or against so that we can use that as good ammunition of information to guide us in the next election.

Have to give credit to Chuck Grassley in the Senate who did take the right stance to try and protect American tech workers on this crappy baggage that's in it. Not sure if he'd vote for a clean bill, which I WANT to see passed, but he did try to stop the crap that was in it, which I give him credit for.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
11. DC is a shell game...
Thu May 23, 2013, 05:05 PM
May 2013

the only legislation that ever gets passed is that which helps the rich. Everything else is a dog and pony show.

EC

(12,287 posts)
12. Boy, I can't wait until some of those "safe districts" start
Thu May 23, 2013, 05:21 PM
May 2013

getting more and more brown and black residents moving in. Then they'll see things the way the Senate repubs do. Maybe it's about time to start "bleeding" repub districts. Anyone able to move into some of these districts?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. That's what it may take to get immigration though
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:10 AM
May 2013

I don't think it's going to happen in 2014 though, more like 2016.

EC

(12,287 posts)
15. Maybe it's time for a progressive that rents and is ready to move
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:44 PM
May 2013

to purposely choose to move into a red district to move into. I know that idea sucks for the person that would have to put up with a regressive neighborhood, but the only way to make it better is to change the House.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
13. I'm against this bill as well.
Thu May 23, 2013, 07:40 PM
May 2013

The H1-B visa increases need to be stripped out. All they do is drive down wages and conditions for American workers.

My guess is that's the only part the Republicans like.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
18. In related news: WaPo - Can Tea Party conservatives kill immigration reform?
Sat May 25, 2013, 08:41 AM
May 2013

But anti-immigration conservatives haven’t given up the fight. This morning, a coalition of 150 conservatives — which includes Rich Lowry of the National Review, Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum, Redstate.com editor Eric Erickson, and former Florida Representative Alan West — issued a letter declaring their absolute opposition to the comprehensive immigration bill, and urging Senate Republicans to scrap the entire project.

“No matter how well-intentioned, the Schumer-Rubio bill suffers from fundamental design flaws that make it unsalvageable,” the letter says. “Many of us support various parts of the legislation, but the overall package is so unsatisfactory that the Senate would do better to start over from scratch.”

It’s hard to find a factual basis for each of these objections. The border with Mexico is currently more secure than its ever been, and the additional returns to adding even more security — on top of what is already present in the bill — are likely to be low. Likewise, there’s no way to avoid additional control for the administration — immigration is handled by federal agencies, which are managed by the White House. And more than a few observers have addressed the claim that immigration would bankrupt retirement programs; the assertion relies on the untenable assumption that every immigrant would receive legal status, become a citizen, and fail to contribute taxes or productivity.

Of course, the factual claims of the letter are irrelevant. What matters is that a key part of the Republican Party has announced its categorical opposition to comprehensive immigration reform, which diminishes its chance for passage. Unless supporters can get overwhelming support in the Senate — enough to break a filibuster, and then some — then it’s unlikely they’ll force John Boehner to act. And if he does, he’ll still have to deal with the consequences of an unhappy conservative opposition.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/05/21/can-tea-party-conservatives-kill-immigration-reform/

"It’s hard to find a factual basis for each of these objections."

"Of course, the factual claims of the letter are irrelevant."

This explains why anti-immigration tea party conservatives oppose comprehensive reform. As with all of the far-right's policies, 'facts don't matter' - just fear, emotion and partisan spin.
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