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alp227

(32,058 posts)
Mon May 27, 2013, 02:22 PM May 2013

First Riders Hit the Streets as Bike Share Program Begins (in New York City)

Source: New York Times

New York City introduced its long-awaited bike share system on Monday, supplying thousands of bikes, scattered across more than 300 stations, for public use in parts of Manhattan and Brooklyn.

With the program’s arrival, officials believe they have plugged some decades-old gaps in a city whose transportation network has at times strained to match its growth.

Faster than a crosstown bus and cheaper than the subway — at least for annual members — the bike share system was greeted on Monday with a mixture of hope and trepidation. It is the crowning, valedictory piece of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s extensive investment in cycling, in which the city has added more than 350 miles of bike lanes in recent years under the stewardship of Janette Sadik-Khan, the city’s transportation commissioner.

“We think this will be very popular,” Mr. Bloomberg said in his weekly radio appearance last week, adding, “Let the free marketplace decide.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/nyregion/bike-share-program-opens-in-new-york-city-after-long-delay.html

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First Riders Hit the Streets as Bike Share Program Begins (in New York City) (Original Post) alp227 May 2013 OP
Roll on! Berlum May 2013 #1
Great idea. Mz Pip May 2013 #16
this is such a wonderful idea! JitterbugPerfume May 2013 #2
One of the bikes was stolen in Kips Bay yesterday. In_The_Wind May 2013 #3
Yesterday, as in a day before the program began? Moondog May 2013 #4
That was what I heard on the news early today, In_The_Wind May 2013 #7
Ugh. Not good. Hopefully this won't turn into a trend. Moondog May 2013 #10
It'll become a game. In_The_Wind May 2013 #11
While I hope not Moondog May 2013 #14
The article in this OP indicated that they recovered the stolen bike already... Princess Turandot May 2013 #30
The bikes were being put out at the stations a few days ago NYC Liberal May 2013 #21
Well, that explains that. Moondog May 2013 #22
Right Wingers are OBSESSED with property and thieves.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #5
That was on WABC. I didn't go to a news stand for the paper. In_The_Wind May 2013 #8
That's okay,...you can bet they did. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #12
We are going to see advances in bike design as a result of this program... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #6
Very cool, I hope it succeeds! We've used similar things while visiting petronius May 2013 #9
Let's see if New Yorkers can have nice things. n/t Ian David May 2013 #13
Not my favorite kind of bicycle to ride. But any system that puts more bicycles on the street Nika May 2013 #15
Bloomberg must have read sulphurdunn May 2013 #17
Most of them will be stolen within a couple of weeks. BB1 May 2013 #18
In the White Bike program, weren't you on your honor? freedom fighter jh May 2013 #19
More recent programs have solved those problems happyslug May 2013 #25
Oh, please. onehandle May 2013 #27
I doubt that the free market is the only important factor. freedom fighter jh May 2013 #20
Vélib' works great in Paris. I have much hope for NYC. nt onehandle May 2013 #23
The software system is terrible. brooklynite May 2013 #24
Is it possible to embed a wee chip in the bike frame so it can be GSP tracked? Berlum May 2013 #29
to what purpose? brooklynite May 2013 #32
FWIW > chollybocker May 2013 #26
They just started a similar program here in Salt Lake too LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #28
I really hope this works! lunatica May 2013 #31

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
16. Great idea.
Mon May 27, 2013, 05:57 PM
May 2013

But for me I would be scared to death to ride a bike in NYC. I feel like I'm tempting fate just getting in my son's car. People are such aggressive drivers there.

Moondog

(4,833 posts)
4. Yesterday, as in a day before the program began?
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:14 PM
May 2013

Somehow I do not think this is going to work out as envisioned.

Moondog

(4,833 posts)
14. While I hope not
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:46 PM
May 2013

I won't be surprised if it does.

The only urban area where I have spent any time that did not have a serious theft problem was Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Of course, they remove body parts - a hand, or sometimes a hand and a foot, from people convicted of theft in Riyadh. Not much recidivism in that area of the world.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
30. The article in this OP indicated that they recovered the stolen bike already...
Tue May 28, 2013, 07:11 AM
May 2013

they probably micro-chipped them.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
21. The bikes were being put out at the stations a few days ago
Mon May 27, 2013, 08:34 PM
May 2013

though obviously you couldn't rent them until today.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
5. Right Wingers are OBSESSED with property and thieves....
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:19 PM
May 2013

So it's no wonder the NY Post picked up the story.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
6. We are going to see advances in bike design as a result of this program...
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:23 PM
May 2013

Starting with the wheels. I'm surprised they went with spokes instead of alloy.

petronius

(26,603 posts)
9. Very cool, I hope it succeeds! We've used similar things while visiting
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:31 PM
May 2013

other cities, and it's a great way to tour as well as to get around at home...

Nika

(546 posts)
15. Not my favorite kind of bicycle to ride. But any system that puts more bicycles on the street
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:53 PM
May 2013

of a big city is a good system. I am glad they are doing this. I predict it will be a success.

BB1

(798 posts)
18. Most of them will be stolen within a couple of weeks.
Mon May 27, 2013, 06:59 PM
May 2013

We tried a so called White Bike Program in Holland during the sixties. Actually, the first white bike was impounded by the police. Later, the rest were stolen or demolished.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
19. In the White Bike program, weren't you on your honor?
Mon May 27, 2013, 08:03 PM
May 2013

I mean, you used it if it was there when you needed it and you didn't pay for it, just left it for the next person. Is that right?

In this program, I think you have to swipe your credit card to take the bike off the rack. Anyway, I'm guessing it works that way, cuz I saw a Bike Share rack in DC last month, and it operates by credit card.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
25. More recent programs have solved those problems
Tue May 28, 2013, 12:01 AM
May 2013

Last edited Tue May 28, 2013, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Mostly by making specially made bikes, with left hand components, i.e. threads that go counter-clockwise instead of clockwise. In simple terms, you steal such a bike it become worthless for they are NO parts you can get to keep it running. Your best option is to take the bike to a bike rack and leave it there.

In addition to parts that are hard to get (including tires, often these bikes have non-traditional wheels sizes and thus unique tires sizes), a growing use of Smart cards have come into play. Most permit the user to ride the bike for 2 hours (or whatever is the reserve time is) but if you hold it longer, you are charged a high fee.


These bikes are suppose to be inspected on a regular basis by people who has access to the tools and replacement parts.

For more information on such systems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_sharing_system

Basically, the bikes involve tend to be heavy, cruiser type bikes, with special wheels and tires. The parts are HEAVY not only to take a beating, but to cheap to replace (and often not worth stealing for you can buy better parts cheaper). You have to use a special electronic pass (or a credit card) to be able to use one, and thus if it is damages or not returned the last person who had it would pay a steep fine (With modern Credit Cards, a quick fine charged to the card).

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
27. Oh, please.
Tue May 28, 2013, 01:28 AM
May 2013

These modern systems are in many cities across Europe.

But thanks for the naysaying from whatever.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
20. I doubt that the free market is the only important factor.
Mon May 27, 2013, 08:12 PM
May 2013

Success will be determined by things like how good the network of bike paths in, how well the bike paths are protected from motor vehicles, and how the cops treat bikers. All those factors are within the public sphere.

brooklynite

(94,741 posts)
24. The software system is terrible.
Mon May 27, 2013, 10:54 PM
May 2013

The system that logs bikes in and out had to be rebooted twice in the two hours we used the system, and the website can't show where the bike stations are and how may slotes they have available.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
29. Is it possible to embed a wee chip in the bike frame so it can be GSP tracked?
Tue May 28, 2013, 06:41 AM
May 2013

Hell, if THEY can watch my every move and keystroke, THEY must be able to track the whereabouts of a bike...

chollybocker

(3,687 posts)
26. FWIW >
Tue May 28, 2013, 12:18 AM
May 2013

Please ignore the inevitable attacks by the car/oil/gas lobbies.

After only a few years, the bikes have become an integral part of downtown Montreal, for both locals and tourists. Bike-sharing works great. You can arrange it over the internet. I use it. My friends use it. Visitors love it.

Progress, friends.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
31. I really hope this works!
Tue May 28, 2013, 07:41 AM
May 2013

I wonder if I can still ride a bike. It's been around 30 years since I rode one. Yet people say you don't ever forget how to ride a bike.

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