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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:10 PM Jun 2013

IMF 'to admit mistakes' in handling Greek debt crisis and bailout

Source: Guardian

The International Monetary Fund is to admit that it has made serious mistakes in the handling of the sovereign debt crisis in Greece, according to internal reports due to be published later on Wednesday.

Documents presented to the Fund's board last Friday will reveal that the Washington-based organisation underestimated the damage austerity would cause to the eurozone country, which has required two bailouts in the past three years.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the papers would say that financial support from the Fund, the European Central Bank and the European Commission had bought time for Greece but had only been made possible because the IMF had bent its own rules to make the country's debt look more sustainable than it was. According to the WSJ report, Greece failed to meet three of the Fund's four tests to qualify for help.

A Fund spokeswoman said: "We will be publishing a number of papers on Greece later today. The board met last Friday to discuss several documents on Greece including the review of its programme and its annual economic assessment."

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jun/05/imf-admit-mistakes-greek-crisis-austerity

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IMF 'to admit mistakes' in handling Greek debt crisis and bailout (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2013 OP
the Washington-based organisation underestimated the damage austerity would cause to the eurozone leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #1
dipsydoodle Diclotican Jun 2013 #2
Good for you! another_liberal Jun 2013 #7
another_liberal Diclotican Jun 2013 #8
I think those eCONomists in the IMF... AnneD Jun 2013 #9
Changing their name to International Monetary Fools would be a great start,,,,, benld74 Jun 2013 #3
International Monetary Fraud, actually. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #11
IMFF - International Monetary Frauds and Fools. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #15
"Did I do that?" Roland99 Jun 2013 #4
"Mistakes were made..." OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #5
The IMF has outlived its purpose. another_liberal Jun 2013 #6
From 2012: "Suicides in Greece rise by a third as financial crisis takes its toll" KansDem Jun 2013 #10
File this under "No Shit, Sherlock" (n/t) MadrasT Jun 2013 #12
Let the contrite butt-covering begin. bemildred Jun 2013 #13
'will reveal that the Washington-based organisation underestimated the damage austerity would cause' elleng Jun 2013 #14
But … But … 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #16
They knew all along that this was wrong Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #17
 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
1. the Washington-based organisation underestimated the damage austerity would cause to the eurozone
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jun 2013

a total fucking bullshit lie. history has shown us what austerity does

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
2. dipsydoodle
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jun 2013

dipsydoodle

Of course they did know what it would led to - devastating to Greece, to put it mildly - what the IMF did was criminal - and the ones who did this should have been paraded in front of the whole greece population - and tell why they did it - when they did know it was the wrong medicine - and was devastating to the greece economy... What they did, was outright criminal - and they should be prosecuted as a result of it !

Diclotican

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. Good for you!
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:06 PM
Jun 2013

They should also serve a great deal of time in prison for all the pain and suffering they arrogantly and willfully caused. If they don't, the same will happen again, and it will be worse.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
8. another_liberal
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:36 PM
Jun 2013

another_liberal

They should at least give back most of what they was stealing from the poor - and from the destitute who had nothing to do with the meltdown in the greece economy... The wealthy and rich in Greece have weathered this crisis pretty well - by putting the money overseas - it is the middle class, and the poor that have been paying the price for the arrogance IMF have shown here - and they should be given a lot more than just a sorry we messed up....

And the guilty ones, should be hold accountable for what they did - and serve long times in prison - not just a slap on the wrist - but some serious time behind bars

What is needed, is putting the bankers on trial - and to punish them if found guilty.. Not just let them off the hook with a warning... They are starting to break down the worlds economy - its time to let them know - that they are not the masters - but servants, for the population they are serving...

And IMF is the worse of the worst - who have killed millions of innocents over the years - the big bankers have a lot of blood on their hands if anyone is willing to look deeper into what the IMF have been doing all over the planet..

Diclotican

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
9. I think those eCONomists in the IMF...
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

that devastated Greece should be given the French Revolution Severance Package (guillotine)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. International Monetary Fraud, actually.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 04:01 PM
Jun 2013

supported by the seven too big to fail banks who have now gone global.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
5. "Mistakes were made..."
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jun 2013

It's True: 'Mistakes Were Made' Is The King Of Non-Apologies
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/14/183924858/its-true-mistakes-were-made-is-the-king-of-non-apologies

Make no mistake, the acting commissioner of the IRS put himself in historic company Tuesday by writing in USA Today that "mistakes were made" when his agency singled out for extra scrutiny some conservative groups.

No less an authority on language than the late William Safire, in his Safire's Political Dictionary, devoted an entry to the oft-used phrase — describing it as "a passive-evasive way of acknowledging error while distancing the speaker from responsibility for it."

Political analyst Bill Schneider declared it to be the "past exonerative" of choice for the political class.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
6. The IMF has outlived its purpose.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jun 2013

The IMF was originally intended to help the World's poorest countries become viable actors on the international economic stage. Now it is policing the budgets and debt repayments of major industrialized nations. It needs to be dismantled. Bankers care only about profits and are not fit people to be running the planet.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
10. From 2012: "Suicides in Greece rise by a third as financial crisis takes its toll"
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jun 2013
More than 2,500 people have taken their own lives since 2010.

'This is the number for confirmed suicides. We think the real number is much higher,' said psychiatrist Dimitris Boukouras. He mans a psyhiatric hotline that rings off the hook every day.

Greece, which is headed for an autumn bankruptcy unless it does more to reign in spending and release fresh IMF funds worth 40 billion euros, saw 50 deaths and a further 350 suicide attempts in the capital Athens in June alone. Deaths are rising across the country and on the numerous islands that surround Greece.

Greek Prime Minister Antonis Samaras will next week hold his first meetings with euro zone leaders since taking office, striving to assure them he will honour a pledge for more austerity and gauging whether they could grant him more time to pull it off.

Mr Samaras will insist he can ram through an austerity package worth about 11.5 billion euros ($14.2 billion) - a key condition to continue receiving EU/IMF bailout funds and avoid default and a possible exit from the currency club.
Greece has yet to nail down the requested austerity package.

The bulk of the cuts will come from state salaries and pensions, and up to 40,000 public sector firings, further angering an austerity-weary public that often takes to the streets. The coalition's two leftist junior partners have also opposed any further cuts.

Mr Samaras said: 'We're all having a difficult time. There will be more hardship'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188879/Greek-economy-Suicides-rise-financial-crisis-takes-toll.html


But the IMF is admitting to making mistakes...
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
16. But … But …
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jun 2013

We had the R&R study telling us … Oops!

Note to the IMF (and any other entity person wishing to be taken seriously by using an academic study to support your seriousness) …
Wait for the Peer Review … and if the PI refuses to release the data set; there’s probably a reason.


But that said, and after reading the article, if the IMF says what’s actually in the article, the title is misleading … the IMF won’t be address the “austerity” of cuts to government spending (or even, increased taxation), but rather “austerity” for the bankers that were “forced” to take a loss on their investments.
Maybe that’s the new definition of “austerity”?

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