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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:57 PM Jun 2013

The untouchables: N.Y. bill would make annoying police a felony

Source: Washington Times

The New York State Senate passed a bill Wednesday that makes it a felony to “harass, annoy, threaten or alarm” an on-duty police officer.

The bill, sponsored by Sens. Pat Gallivan, George Maziarz, Michael Ranzenhofe and Joe Griffo, seeks “to establish the crime of aggravated harassment of a police officer or peace officer.”

“Police officers who risk their lives every day in our cities and on our highways deserve every possible protection,” Mr. Griffo told WIVB 4. “And those who treat them with disrespect, harass them and create situations that can lead to injuries deserve to pay a price for their actions.”

A press release from the New York State Senate originally stated, “The bill (S.2402), sponsored by Senator Joe Griffo (R-C-I, Rome) would make it a felony to harass, annoy, or threaten a police officer while on duty.” However, WIVB 4 notes that as the bill is written, a person would be guilty of aggravated harassment if he or she contacted the officer physically with the intent to “harass, annoy, threaten or alarm.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/6/untouchables-ny-bill-would-make-annoying-police-fe/#ixzz2VTJG0Pcd



There is a certain irony here that law enforcement, with all their lethal weapons and union rules protecting against behavior that would be criminally prosecutable if civilians did it, needs to be treated by our government as if they were Porcelain Figurines, liable to crumble at a foul word or even a withering glance, which - in Florida last week - got someone actually tasered (not making that up).

When people call the modern US a police state, it is honestly not an exaggeration. This bill should be vetoed by Cuomo, if it gets that far.
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The untouchables: N.Y. bill would make annoying police a felony (Original Post) closeupready Jun 2013 OP
Whatever you do, donut annoy a cop in NY. longship Jun 2013 #1
not even with a dozen? plus coffee? ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2013 #2
There is the alliteration in Krispy Kreme. That's likely the source of this. freshwest Jun 2013 #18
Welcome to the police state. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #3
So this is why they built all those prisons that have sat empty for 2-3 years. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #7
Listening to "Fuck da police"... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #8
Ice T Cop Killer pitbullgirl1965 Jun 2013 #9
Yep, sure do... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #10
Here's the NYSenate.gov page on it... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #4
I have definitely known some annoying police UpInArms Jun 2013 #5
POLICE STATE blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #6
"As the bill is written....contacted the officer physically..." JoeyT Jun 2013 #11
Fucked up. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #12
What about when the police annoy citizens? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #13
In a police state, you are subservient to these glorified public servants. closeupready Jun 2013 #14
Misleading headline, the bill deals with PHYSICALLY geek tragedy Jun 2013 #15
I think they already have plenty of laws to deal with that. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #16
Not exactly geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17
Try interfering with a cop, or even not moving along fast enough. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #19
So what's the big deal then? geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24
Absolutely right, you can read the bill on-line KinMd Jun 2013 #21
What the mother-fucking hell is wrong with people in this country? FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #20
Tighter, tighter, tighter...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #22
This bill concerns assaulting a police officer (although isn't that illegal already?) Mike Daniels Jun 2013 #23
If you favor canonizing LEO's armed with lethal weapons, closeupready Jun 2013 #25
What if you just look at them kinda funny?nt clarice Jun 2013 #26
6-10 in federal prison. closeupready Jun 2013 #27
WOW !! How about if you.... clarice Jun 2013 #28
I know, ridiculous, right? These officials are armed with closeupready Jun 2013 #29
It'll never pass.....hopefully. nt clarice Jun 2013 #30

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
5. I have definitely known some annoying police
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jun 2013

and they did appear to be felonious.

Who writes these types of headlines anyway?

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
11. "As the bill is written....contacted the officer physically..."
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jun 2013

Which means they can step in front of you, shoulder check you, and haul your ass off to jail.

It'll be the new "Stop resisting!".

Want to bet better than three quarters of the people that are guilty of "harassing" police officers won't be white people?

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
14. In a police state, you are subservient to these glorified public servants.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013

I don't recognize American democracy anymore, some days.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. Misleading headline, the bill deals with PHYSICALLY
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jun 2013

interfering with police while they're carrying out their duties.

Doesn't deal with verbal taunts etc.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
16. I think they already have plenty of laws to deal with that.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jun 2013

Interfering with an officer.

Obstruction of justice.

Resisting arrest.

And then, after they beat or taser you, assaulting an officer.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. Not exactly
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jun 2013

Closest is this:

http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article195.htm#p195.05

S 195.05 Obstructing governmental administration in the second degree.
A person is guilty of obstructing governmental administration when he
intentionally obstructs, impairs or perverts the administration of law
or other governmental function or prevents or attempts to prevent a
public servant from performing an official function, by means of
intimidation, physical force or interference, or by means of any
independently unlawful act, or by means of interfering, whether or not
physical force is involved, with radio, telephone, television or other
telecommunications systems owned or operated by the state, or a county,
city, town, village, fire district or emergency medical service or by
means of releasing a dangerous animal under circumstances evincing the
actor`s intent that the animal obstruct governmental administration


This being Albany, though, probably won't pass the Assembly.
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
19. Try interfering with a cop, or even not moving along fast enough.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jun 2013

They'll find something to arrest you for in a hurry, and they don't even need this new law.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. So what's the big deal then?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:36 PM
Jun 2013

Pretty much a really horrible, shitty, guaranteed to result in jail or hospitalization thing to touch a cop while they're arresting someone or something like that.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
20. What the mother-fucking hell is wrong with people in this country?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:12 PM
Jun 2013

Did I fail to notice a few truckloads of strange-looking pods on the highway?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
22. Tighter, tighter, tighter......
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:23 AM
Jun 2013
- It should be clear now that they're afraid of us. It's time to give them the boot.

K&R

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
23. This bill concerns assaulting a police officer (although isn't that illegal already?)
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jun 2013

"a person would be guilty of aggravated harassment if he or she contacted the officer physically with the intent to “harass, annoy, threaten or alarm.”

The bill makes specific reference to "physical contact". I guess that "harass" or "annoy" could be applied to physical contact that interfers with the officer performing his duties.

Interesting that the article leaves out the part of "physical contact" in the lead but then puts it in after they've already caused people to get their undergarments all wadded up.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
28. WOW !! How about if you....
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jun 2013

squat down in a line backer crouch, put your fingers in your cheeks, and make the stretched mouth face at them ?

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
29. I know, ridiculous, right? These officials are armed with
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jun 2013

guns, clubs, protected by powerful unions, virtually immune from any kind of disciplinary action ... and somehow, Republicans think they need further protection.

Just a joke (not a funny one so much, since this bill is for real).

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