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Melinda

(5,465 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:08 PM Jun 2013

Intelligence chief Clapper: I gave ‘least untruthful’ answer on U.S. spying

Source: Yahoo News

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is really struggling to explain why he told Congress in March (see video above) that the National Security Agency does not intentionally collect any kind of data on millions of Americans. His latest take: It's an unfair question, he said, like "When are you going to stop beating your wife?" And it seems to depend on the meaning of "collect."

"I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful, manner by saying 'no,'" Clapper told NBC News on Sunday.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/intel-chief-clapper-gave-least-untruthful-answer-u-164742798.html



Ah yes, "parsing" words... why does this seem so familiar?

Lying liar.


Senator Wyden questions Clapper on this:
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Intelligence chief Clapper: I gave ‘least untruthful’ answer on U.S. spying (Original Post) Melinda Jun 2013 OP
Lying liar lying: Melinda Jun 2013 #1
Cont; Melinda Jun 2013 #2
The cancer has metastasized. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #4
:Headbang: Melinda Jun 2013 #5
What part of "any" did he not understand? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #11
But it was still untruthful. Crowman1979 Jun 2013 #3
Well, yes, but we must believe it was for our own good. Melinda Jun 2013 #6
So, who should be prosecuted? existentialist Jun 2013 #7
Anyone caught being guilty of perjury and/or lying to congress as both are against the law! Dragonfli Jun 2013 #9
I would like to address his "wife beating" evasion, I will answer with the most truthful answer Dragonfli Jun 2013 #8
.SNAP avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #10
Now to lie about the lie, what a guy. nt Festivito Jun 2013 #12
That's my Senator, whom the President claims is fully informed and part of the process, being lied Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #13
I'm jealous. Ash_F Jun 2013 #14
SOMEONE'S LYING blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #15
George Orwell would have loved this guy CanonRay Jun 2013 #16
Well, this should nip those Nixon analogies in the bud. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #17
So, we are expected to trust people who give MsPithy Jun 2013 #18
Was what he said truthful? quakerboy Jun 2013 #19
So... When was he least untruthful about lying? Now or than? idwiyo Jun 2013 #20
Clapper is an (un-indicted) felon. He is not qualified for federal employment. Faryn Balyncd Jun 2013 #21
"Least untruthful" is still untruthful. Find him in contempt. n/t truth2power Jun 2013 #22

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
1. Lying liar lying:
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jun 2013


Wyden: "And this is for you, Director Clapper, again on the surveillance front. And I hope we can do this in just a yes or no answer, because I know Sen. Feinstein wants to move on.

"Last summer the NSA director was at a conference and he was asked a question about the NSA surveillance of Americans. He replied, and I quote here, '... the story that we have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people is completely false.'

"The reason I'm asking the question is, having served on the committee now for a dozen years, I don't really know what a dossier is in this context. So what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"

Clapper: "No, sir."


Melinda

(5,465 posts)
2. Cont;
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jun 2013


Wyden: "It does not."

Clapper: "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly."

Wyden: "All right. Thank you. I'll have additional questions to give you in writing on that point, but I thank you for the answer."


"Not wittingly". Really.

Lying liar lied under oath with a straight face. Looked right at Senator Wyden and lied, under oath.

Our government is betrayed.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
8. I would like to address his "wife beating" evasion, I will answer with the most truthful answer
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:05 PM
Jun 2013

because there really is no such as a "most truthful lie" or a "least truthful truth".

It's an unfair question, he said, like "When are you going to stop beating your wife?"


Is it an unfair question to ask, "when did you stop beating your wife" when you never stopped?

They never stopped re-issuing blanket "warrants" to intentionally collect every bit of data on every single American kept for them by at least Verizon if not all carriers.

To claim it is unfair to ask about your lies claiming you never struck your wife after reading a recent police report on your latest beating in a long string of them is understandable for a wife beater caught in the headlights - but they are still the lies of a lying liar that just got caught beating his wife. - that is the most truthful answer to your attempt to evade fair questions!!!
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. That's my Senator, whom the President claims is fully informed and part of the process, being lied
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:28 PM
Jun 2013

to.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
18. So, we are expected to trust people who give
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jun 2013

the "least untruthful," answers to those who are supposed to be supervising them?

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
19. Was what he said truthful?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jun 2013

was he under oath? Did he lie? Will there be consequences?

Seems pretty simple to me.

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