Company: Terror laws may apply to Keystone XL pipeline foes
Source: Omaha World Herald
By Joseph Morton
WASHINGTON Skirmishes between opponents of the Keystone XL pipeline and the company behind the project could be a preview of future tensions between construction crews and protesters in Nebraska.
The environmental advocacy group Bold Nebraska last week denounced a presentation TransCanada delivered previously to state law enforcement officials. Bold Nebraska obtained documents from the presentation through a Freedom of Information Act request and posted them on its website.
TransCanada is trying to paint concerned citizens as abusive, aggressive law breakers when in fact that describes themselves, the groups executive director, Jane Kleeb, told The World-Herald. They are giving presentations to the FBI and our local law enforcement making us out to be criminals and telling our local law enforcement they should be looking at terrorism laws as possible ways to prosecute us. There is something fundamentally wrong about this.
A TransCanada spokesman defended the presentation, saying the company was simply providing desired information to law enforcement officials.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20130617/NEWS/130619686/1685#company-terror-laws-may-apply-to-keystone-xl-pipeline-foes
NoodleyAppendage
(4,619 posts)Say hello to your new multinational corporate overlords. Resistance is futile.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)appal_jack
(3,813 posts)Whether it's spying on activists via secret, broad warrants, or using anti-terror statutes of doubtful Constitutionality to actively quash dissent, we will be told by some here (as long as there is a Democrat in the White House) that it's perfectly legal.
I disagree of course. The precise intent of Constitutional limits on government power and Bill of Rights guarantees of individual freedoms is to transcend the vagaries of party politics and short-term thinking.
-app
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)excerpt:
...but also included the notation level of capability and intent low.
The presentation detailed incidents in other locations where protesters not from Nebraska locked themselves onto heavy equipment, built tree houses in the path of the route, vandalized equipment or took other steps to block construction of the companys pipelines.
One page bears the heading Federal/State Anti-terrorism statutes attacking a critical infrastructure.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)An unbuilt debacle of a project that will poison and destroy water is attacking our critical infrastructure. The protesters are trying to save water, land, and the truth. That pipeline must be stopped!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)to mark the first Earth Day
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)As a young adult 43 years ago, I remember being so excited about saving the environment for the future. How here we are at the future and have been pushed back to the way it was in the 1900s.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)It featured a group of kids singing "Oil Drops Keep Falling On My Head". It seemed like a lot of environmental progress was being made in the aftermath of the Santa Barbara and Cuyahoga River disasters, even with a Republican in the White House. But I think you're right-- we seem to be returning to the pre-Teddy Roosevelt days of wanton disregard for the environment.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)when we were making progress on the environment, choice, equality. We should not be having to fight for these rights over and over. I can't believe how far the opposition has been able to turn back the clock.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)"Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone..."
I thought the environmental gains of the '60s and '70s would keep going, and I was thrilled when Carter's visionary energy policy included incentives for individuals to produce their own renewable power-- and even sell their excess energy to the grid. Then Reagan came along and smashed Carter's vision to pieces
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)and gamed the hostage situation in Iran. Mr. Carter would have had us on renewable energy by now, we would have saved a bundle on wars, and the world would have been a better place for his efforts for peace. He has much more to recommend him, but yes, Carter was THE visionary. He's still a great guy.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I couldn't agree more
ReRe
(10,597 posts)...We're all terrorists now.
struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)And land for the profit margin of a multi national corporation
Socialistlemur
(770 posts)I'm sorry but I read what you wrote and I told myself I really don't see anybody doing something as impersonal as building a large diameter steel pipeline unless they expect to make money out of it. I guess when the Soviet Union was building oil pipelines from Siberia to Eastern Europe they were doing it to fulfill their 5 year plan, but I got the faint suspicion even those communist bureaucrats expected to gain something from the effort.
I guess the point is that states and companies can build oil pipelines, and they expect a benefit to arise from such a project. I wouldn't be selling socialist logic explaining there's no intent to profit or gain from whatever is done. This isn't really about whether its a multinational company building it or not. There's a bigger picture, and it has nothing to do with oil spilling out of a pipeline. If the oil doesn't reach Houston by pipeline all the way from Canada, it will reach Houston from Venezuela all the way by tanker. Each tanker carries a half millin barrels, or about 21 million gallons of crude oil which is pretty much identical to the Canadian oil.
Now that you have this information to think over...I suggest you go buy a more fuel efficient vehicle, at least get a small car with a five speed manual transmission, and move close to work. Use public transport and walk. Put your life in order and do something about demand, because that's the only realistic answer to the problem. The rest of it, as they say in Phoenix, is hot air.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)They want the pipeline to carry this super polluting crap down to Houston, where refining it into export diesel will further foul the air on the Gulf Coast.
If they want to export refined crude, let them build a refinery in Canada, and fuck up their own goddamned air. See how many Canadians support that.
Socialistlemur
(770 posts)The canadian crude is shipped by pipeline, the Venezuelan Orinoco oil belt crude is shipped by tanker. These crudes compete in the world market. The field crude is extra heavy and it is either blended or they use it to make syncrude, which is usually blended. So there's no difference.
NBachers
(17,119 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)in any connection whatsoever to the pipeline. The answer would have to come from the president, or possibly the collective judges of the FISA court, while under oath (we know the Director of National Intelligence lies to senators, so there's no point in asking him). Any American up for asking one of the better senators to look into this?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)essentially suspends ones civil and legal rights. It can make you disappear. At least that's what Congress and the Courts and the President say, and that's what their spear carriers say. They say,"It's legal." You hear that from crooked bankers who steal other peoples property, bureaucrats who spy on them, corporations that poison them, cops who murder them and politicians who pass laws that hurt them. "So, just shut up about it", they say. "It's all perfectly legal."
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)essentially suspends ones civil and legal rights. It can make you disappear. At least that's what Congress and the Courts and the President say, and that's what their spear carriers say. They say,"It's legal." You hear that from crooked bankers who steal peoples property, bureaucrats who spy on them, corporations that poison them, cops who murder them and politicians who pass laws that hurt them. "So, just shut up about it", they say. "It's for your own good. It keeps you safe, and it's all perfectly legal."
WovenGems
(776 posts)To the green folks of NE. Dig trenches, anti-tank types in the path of the project, concrete obstacles too. Land owners should be happy to help fend off the invaders. No laws broken and the project just took huge financial hits.
PSPS
(13,600 posts)It's all about satisfying and protecting the corporate state.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)NCcoast
(480 posts)So who's going to be opposed to that? Then you expand the definition of terrorists to include anyone who wants to check your greed and lust for power. Voila! Police state.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)Some more links:
http://warisacrime.org/content/keystone-xl-activists-labeled-possible-eco-terrorists-internal-transcanada-documents
Copies of some of the training material:
http://www.popularresistance.org/transcanada-calls-nebraska-ranchers-agressive-and-abusive-talks-of-terrorism/
And a recent statement by Al Gore which does not mention the counterinsurgency aspects of the situation, perhaps because he's become a terra-ist, too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/jun/15/al-gore-obama-keystone-pipeline
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Don't know about DU, but I am tired of Big Oil and Wall Street running Washington.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)You are not alone.
MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)nm
cynzke
(1,254 posts)Round up protesters and ship to Gitmo?
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)They just might push for protesters to be disapperared.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Succinct and apt summation.
K&R
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)Why don't they just arrest people for walking or riding a bicycle?
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)But, sadly, it was expected.....
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The other 19 were probably OWS sit-ins