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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 06:19 PM Jun 2013

Breaking: White House Threatens Veto of House Farm Bill Over Cuts to Food Stamp Program

Source: Associated Press

@AP: BREAKING: White House threatens veto of House farm bill over cuts to food stamp program: http://t.co/KOLflx2FsG -RJJ

WHITE HOUSE THREATENS VETO OF HOUSE FARM BILL

By MARY CLARE JALONICK
— Jun. 17 6:11 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is threatening to veto the House version of a massive, 5-year farm bill, saying food stamp cuts included in the legislation could leave some Americans hungry.

The House is preparing to consider the bill this week. The legislation would cut $2 billion annually from food stamps and make it harder for some people to qualify for the program. That is around 3 percent of current spending.

The Obama administration said in a statement that food stamps are "a cornerstone of our nation's food assistance safety net." The White House argued that the House should make deeper cuts to farm subsidies like crop insurance instead. The bill, which costs nearly $100 billion a year, would save a total of about $4 billion annually, including the food stamp cuts.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/white-house-threatens-veto-house-farm-bill

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Breaking: White House Threatens Veto of House Farm Bill Over Cuts to Food Stamp Program (Original Post) Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP
Good for Obama! JimDandy Jun 2013 #1
Yay! Roy Rolling Jun 2013 #39
Hope lsewpershad Jun 2013 #57
Good! morningfog Jun 2013 #2
I hope he follows through pscot Jun 2013 #3
bingo - threats mean nothing rurallib Jun 2013 #17
Shine the light! nt babylonsister Jun 2013 #4
Finally, a little backbone Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #5
That's me...just not so exuberant. JimDandy Jun 2013 #42
Good! silverweb Jun 2013 #6
Very good! (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #7
Republicans want to steal the bread from Grannies mouth Berlum Jun 2013 #8
$14 a month? Brigid Jun 2013 #24
No it depends & saved my family Joer138 Jun 2013 #28
I'm glad SNAP helped your family. Brigid Jun 2013 #33
What about paying everything on $814 a month? Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #38
Yes, it does help. Gormy Cuss Jun 2013 #51
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #9
Good! This is appalling. Faygo Kid Jun 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BenzoDia Jun 2013 #11
I hope, too, that he follows through. timdog44 Jun 2013 #12
Thank you. Good news. Betsy Ross Jun 2013 #13
Kick! Politicub Jun 2013 #14
I'll believe it when I see it bowens43 Jun 2013 #15
Maybe because they haven't passed any legislation? Also, with a split between majorities in the two okaawhatever Jun 2013 #31
OK, so who can offer a link to a petition? I haven't checked my email yet today, and if I find one IrishAyes Jun 2013 #16
Good azurnoir Jun 2013 #18
Good! I hope he sticks with this. Chemisse Jun 2013 #19
that is good news, but I fear a compromise Dragonfli Jun 2013 #20
That was my first thought too. bvar22 Jun 2013 #54
GO OBAMA!!! LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #21
I'll celebrate when he actually does the VETO diabeticman Jun 2013 #22
Talking food from the needy is Iliyah Jun 2013 #23
Good! libodem Jun 2013 #25
K&R ReRe Jun 2013 #26
Hope POTUS sticks to his promise Joer138 Jun 2013 #27
He'd be doing the right thing, not right-wing thing. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2013 #29
Now all we have to do is keep up all this hair on fire stuff railsback Jun 2013 #30
I know he's got a political reason for announcing the veto before the bill is passed, but i'd love okaawhatever Jun 2013 #32
Vetoing ag subsidies might help with immigration issues more than passing an immigration bill does! cascadiance Jun 2013 #34
that is good for him darrelallen Jun 2013 #35
"+1, I agree"? You wish you were "the one"? What? uppityperson Jun 2013 #47
It's the least he can do. reusrename Jun 2013 #36
I'll believe it when I see it... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #37
That is good news, if they don't back down. jwirr Jun 2013 #40
thank goodness! nt G_j Jun 2013 #41
Good - now stay the course for once. Doctor_J Jun 2013 #43
That's nice Fearless Jun 2013 #44
Threaten? xxqqqzme Jun 2013 #45
K & R ctsnowman Jun 2013 #46
Good. And then anyone who voted for it should be sent to bed without supper. Dollface Jun 2013 #48
Obama will catch a lot of shit on this existentialist Jun 2013 #49
Good. n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2013 #50
Just so I'm clear atreides1 Jun 2013 #52
They like seeing people suffer. historylovr Jun 2013 #53
The Bill Is Loaded With Pork DallasNE Jun 2013 #55
So, why didn't Obama speak up when the Senate, including most Democrats, voted forestpath Jun 2013 #56
Perhaps he did behind the scenes..... PragmaticLiberal Jun 2013 #59
Way to stand up for hungry people! forestpath Jun 2013 #63
Good for Obama! I know too many needy people on food stamps that would Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #58
. libodem Jun 2013 #60
k&r thanks for posting. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #61
Finally something that really matters to people. Beacool Jun 2013 #62
HOPE otherone Jun 2013 #64

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
39. Yay!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:30 AM
Jun 2013

Pushback is the only thing these bullies who passed these bills understand. The amendment to cut food stamps, was authored by Senator David Vitter. He proposed eliminating food stamps for felons and people who had otherwise paid their debt to society for sex crimes. Of course, those who allegedly consort with prostitutes and actually publically beg forgiveness for crimes like he did are exempted---even if the prostitutes eventually hang themselves from the shame and publicity caused by being linked to Vitter.

They should have titled the bill "The Farm Bill and Hypocrite Amendments"

Lefty Nast

(61 posts)
5. Finally, a little backbone
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jun 2013

I voted for Mr. Obama hoping for so much...now, I'm just overjoyed when he shows a little spine on anything important.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
42. That's me...just not so exuberant.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:39 AM
Jun 2013

More plesantly surprised. Am reserving "overjoyed" for if he actually follows through. It's been a long drought with him...let it RAIN all in here!

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
8. Republicans want to steal the bread from Grannies mouth
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jun 2013

Lady next door to me, 92-year old widow of a WW II vet who was at Pearl Harbor, lives on about $800 a month SS, and gets $14 a month in food stamps. Now the Republicans want to kick her under the bus and take her freakin food stamps from her. If that's what Republicans call "family values" then I got news for them: Jesus gonna set up a roadblock on their pathway to heaven and divert them to the freakin underworld where they belong filled with fearful, greedy, shrunken souls.

Take a stand Obama. Better to go down fighting for decency, than to choose greed and degeneracy like the Fallen RepuliBaggers.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
24. $14 a month?
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jun 2013

Wow, like that's really going to help her. Is the food stamp program really that stingy?

Joer138

(9 posts)
28. No it depends & saved my family
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jun 2013

Snap (food stamps) helped my kids 6-7 years ago. I'll never forget that. I found myself without a job (thanks bush) supporting 2 lil girls. We got $275 per month for 5 months till I got back on track. It allowed me to keep our house. I now have a solid job with great benefits. Where would We be without a little help from government? Scary thought...

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
33. I'm glad SNAP helped your family.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jun 2013

I wonder if those in the same boat now are being helped as generously.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
51. Yes, it does help.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jun 2013

The whole SNAP program is stingy by design because it's meant to be a supplemental source of grocery money. For seniors this pittance is still better than nothing.

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
12. I hope, too, that he follows through.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jun 2013

Besides assistance for small farmers, what the farm bill was originally set up for, the food stamp part of the bill is the primary issue in the bill. Assistance to wealthy farm owners who don't know what a kernel of corn looks like so that we can cut aid to the poor and hungry. Shameful.

Betsy Ross

(3,147 posts)
13. Thank you. Good news.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jun 2013

This has been a big one for me. I haven't the mental strength to deal with Snowden and all the other issues, but a possible cut to food stamps has my focus.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
15. I'll believe it when I see it
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jun 2013

Obama doesn't veto. He has used the veto less than any president since garfield

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
31. Maybe because they haven't passed any legislation? Also, with a split between majorities in the two
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

houses, I'm sure most of the negotiations happen before they hit his desk.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
16. OK, so who can offer a link to a petition? I haven't checked my email yet today, and if I find one
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jun 2013

I'll hurry back here with it. But just in case the cupboard's bare, anyone feel free to beat me to it.

Word direct from the agencies involved suggests there may be no electric bill help for the poor this summer, perhaps no heating help next winter either, or at least severely delayed and restricted. Maybe when we start finding starving people frozen to death in their homes or by the bunches under bridges and woodland Hoovervilles, maybe then people will rise up and make their voices heard.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
20. that is good news, but I fear a compromise
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jun 2013

in between The House and Senate cuts, no cuts are good and will cause hunger.

I fear this is the beginning of a bipartisan Food assistance cuts bill that will be marketed as, "see! We starve your children a little less than they would. Whoo hoo!"

There is some history to warrant such a fear based on his past negotiations.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
54. That was my first thought too.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

This is a very large, comprehensive Bill,
and the Food Assistance Cuts are a very small part of it.

Are we going to face another contrived Hostage Situation where Obama saves the little children but gives away the store on the backside?

I haven't had the time to find out what else is in there,
but Farm Bills are traditionally pork laden monstrosities with huge gifts to Big Ag
and Chem Corporations like Monsanto.

The Food Stamps Program is IMPORTANT,
but it makes a very attractive "Hostage" to misdirect attention,
TOO attractive at first look.

I have earned my cynicism.
After the last 20 years, it is wise to ask,
"OK. What are they hiding?"

Joer138

(9 posts)
27. Hope POTUS sticks to his promise
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jun 2013

Republicans are greedy douch bags. And the rich need tax breaks. who better to take from besides low income families?

I wish our president would fight these a&& hats a little harder

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
30. Now all we have to do is keep up all this hair on fire stuff
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jun 2013

so we can keep the GOP in control of the House and flip the Senate over to the Republicans in 2014

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
32. I know he's got a political reason for announcing the veto before the bill is passed, but i'd love
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jun 2013

to see a vote on record with the cuts. That way, we'd have a record for the 2014 elections. Additional proof that the gop could care less about the 99%.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
34. Vetoing ag subsidies might help with immigration issues more than passing an immigration bill does!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 02:31 AM
Jun 2013

If a big part of this bill is giving gifts back to the likes of ADM, etc. in the form of farm subsidies that THEY DON'T NEED, and they only use to help them DUMP exports in south America below cost to put farmers down there out of work that turns them either in to outsourced labor down there, or illegal immigrants if they have to find work up here instead WITH OUR TAXPAYER MONEY paying for this to happen!

The Immigration bill is so loaded with CRAP that works against us with things like expanding the H-1B Visa program, etc.

If we can get back to having reasonably priced farm exports down there so that their farmers can go back to farming again and living close to their own families, then I think vetoing this bill might have even more benefits than just negotiating for food stamps passage.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
43. Good - now stay the course for once.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jun 2013

i have doubts that he will actually follow through when it comes to the brink.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
49. Obama will catch a lot of shit on this
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jun 2013

but it's the right thing to do.

WE HAVE TO HAVE HIS BACK (to the extent that he follows through).

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
52. Just so I'm clear
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jun 2013

Republicans want to cut food stamps and at the same time want to prevent abortions after the 20th week, or sooner!

In other words, Republicans want children to be born so that they can die of hunger...how does that make sense?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
55. The Bill Is Loaded With Pork
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

New subsidies for agribusiness and government paid crop insurance while piling cuts above and beyond the sequester for hungry Americans. Recently some members of Congress have attempted to live on the $4.50 a day for food. Good luck to them. And they want to cut this by 3%.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
56. So, why didn't Obama speak up when the Senate, including most Democrats, voted
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 03:12 PM
Jun 2013

to cut food stamps in their version of the bill, too?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
58. Good for Obama! I know too many needy people on food stamps that would
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jun 2013

be devastated if they lost them.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
62. Finally something that really matters to people.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

Not just fake scandals and other shiny things aimed at distracting people from real concerns.

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