Probably.

I'd bet that Hoffa was given a brand new pair of concrete shoes and buried at sea, way out at sea.
but I'm not a bettin' man

So that scene from Casino was based on true events?

Would always look away when that part came on. What a horrible way to die. Hope the body is found and the Hoffa family can finally get some peace.

... be honest who can you trust?

And Greenwald has the scoop and per Snowden, give details piece by piece.

If true what a horrible way to die.

Thanks!!

we could fix the bridge he's buried under.

'Nicky Santoro' in Casino, maybe that's where......... naw couldn't be


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I remember the whole Mafia gang back in the '70s, including Giacalone and the rest. Burying Hoffa alive sounds like something they would do. Also used to eat at the Machus Red Fox (overpriced).

This could very well be true.

It is in the book, Contract Killer: The Explosive Story of the Mafia's Most Notorious Hitman Donald "Tony the Greek" Frankos

He cut up the body with a chainsaw and put the parts in the cement for Giants Stadium. Franko turned states evidence and went to prision with a more lenient sentence. However, to protect him from the other prisioners (John Gotti offered $300K for his head.) he was isolated.

Another claim: Frank "The Irishman" Sheerhan was a Teamster official, Hoffa condifante, and Mafia hitman. Near the end of his life, as he was dying of cancer, he confessed to his longtime lawyer Charles Brandt that it was he who gunned down Hoffa at this house in Detroit. http://www.8newsnow.com/story/5689300/the-hoffa-files-the-missing-body-of-jimmy-hoffa

I wonder if they went back and looked for blood, which can survive for decades between floorboards ....

And a chainsaw--aaggh! Why not just do the deed in the back of the meat market, like in the Sopranos!

I don't know why, but this is such a simple story, with a simple murder weapon...sometimes the simplest stories are also the truest.

We will see if they find anything after all these years...

.... how many people admitted to killing him, close to a dozen?

Hey if the NSA was spying on eveyone they'd have solved this a brazillion yrs ago.

putting this out there?

Perhaps he fears "the loss of heaven and the pain of hell" or something on those lines. He's trying to get his scoresheet correct before he shuffles off...

... He's trying to leave behind a legitimate chunk of change for his loved ones after a lifetime of ill-gotten gain, by hyping an online book designed to instantly capture sales before the disclosure proves (once again) to be fraudulent.

If this is the David Chasnick cited in the article, one of his stated areas of expertise is bankruptcy. The ownership of the book itself may be designed to evade future bankruptcy proceedings, but I'm just spitballing, now.

I'm not saying your speculation is less true than mine own, by the way. But there's a timer on my guess and it should be proven true or false, or indeterminate, in a comparatively short amount of time.

you say, we'll know soon enough.

I wish they'd find the guy...it would put to bed a number of rumors, and give his family some peace.

CNN did an actual, "no wait! he's over there!" thing yesterday. As they were running the "investigators give up" crawl, they had a new, live, and I presume eventually unsubstantiated report that Hoffa's remains had been found in his home... which probably helped sales of someone else's e-book.

I swear that television news is so useless now that one becomes a better informed citizen by refusing to watch it.

Edit: I guess the Hoffa lost-meter has returned back to "indeterminate." But he'll be back.

He was not the nicest guy, but a lot of Teamsters owe a debt to his organization skills and negotiation tactics.

- this from just a bozo who was once IBT.

and guidance of the Teamsters. I got them in to the NLRB hearing, but lost my case, I believe narrowly. Talk about bizarre times. I truly felt like I had fallen into the rabbit hole. I couldn't have done it without the Teamsters, for what it is worth.

One of the big reasons the public has turned on Unions is due to their close ties to the mob...Hoffa was the worst! IMHO.

Just asking.

I'd sorta miss the legend that has built up around it. Sorta like the legend of DB Cooper at this point.

I've heard he was killed and thrown into a slaughterhouse meat grinder...lol.

...if they find Judge Crater, it'll be a trifecta!

.... I'm not real inclined to believe his 'recollection' of the incident as a whole.