Could Paula Deen's words bring down her empire?
Source: AP-Excite
By DAVID BAUDER
NEW YORK (AP) - Paula Deen should hope for more fans like Jennifer Everett of Tyler, Texas, who carried a shopping bag filled with $53 worth of merchandise from the celebrity chef's Georgia store on Thursday. A day earlier, it was revealed that Deen admitted during questioning in a lawsuit that she had slurred blacks in the past.
"Who hasn't ever said that word?" Everett said. "I don't think any less of her. She's super friendly. She's a warm person who wouldn't hurt a fly."
Deen's admission that she had used the N-word in the past wasn't the first time the queen of comfort food's mouth had gotten her into big trouble. She said in 2012 that for three years she hid her Type 2 diabetes while continuing to cook the calorie-laden food that's bad for people like her.
Hypocrisy is one thing, hostility another. From her days as a divorced mother selling bag lunches on the streets of Savannah, Deen has parlayed her folksy, Southern gal charm into an empire that includes Food Network TV shows, cookbooks, magazines and a wide swath of product endorsements.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20130620/DA71O5782.html
This 2006 file photo originally released by the Food Network shows celebrity chef Paula Dean. It was revealed that Deen admitted during questioning in a lawsuit that she had slurred blacks in the past. It's the second time the queen of comfort food's mouth has gotten her into big trouble. She revealed in 2012 that for three years she hid her Type 2 diabetes while continuing to cook the calorie-laden food that's bad for people like her. The Food Network, which began airing "Paula's Home Cooking" in 2002, has said it does not tolerate discrimination and is looking at the situation. Deen's other show, "Paula's Best Dishes," started at the network in 2008. She's one of the longest-running and most recognizable of the network stars, although her show airs in daytime _ not prime-time. (AP Photo/ Food Network, file)
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)No more biscuits and slavey for her!
karmalk
(61 posts)someone like her on TV
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:07 AM - Edit history (2)
but it would probably be hard to find a lot of 66-year-old white people in georgia who never said that word. just saying.
ETA - when I wrote the above I thought it was something that she had said pre-civil rights era, I didn't know that she had continued to use that language. There is no excuse for it. Not that there was any excuse of using it back then, but I know a lot of people did, so it wouldn't surprise me that a person of that age from that place had used it in their life. But most people who had used it learned and changed.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)of any age using that word.
NickB79
(19,258 posts)The article only says she admitted to using the N-word "in the past". We're left to wonder if this was something she said recently, or if it's something she said when she was a teenager in 1955.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)And FYI she admitted to using that word in 1986 which is also not 40 years ago.
d_r
(6,907 posts)there's no excuse for it
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)I was just saying that I didn't know she had used it recently, thanks for putting that info in.
d_r
(6,907 posts)I said "ever said that word" which is how I understood it. I meant ever said it their lives. I learned this morning that she had continued to use it and that's not what I meant. I'm not defending that in any way.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)She also made derogatory and disgusting comments about blacks and slavery, but I'm sure you'll probably dismiss those comments too.
Sad.
p.s. I'm from Georgia. We're not all ignorant, backwards bigots!
d_r
(6,907 posts)when I wrote that I thought it was something she has said 50 years ago, I didn't know it was something she had continued to use.
I have nothing but disdain for that. I haven't seen the comments you mention, but I have nothing but disdain for those types of comments.
I am 45 and I remember as a child the generation older than me using that language, and it seems to me that a lot of people in that generation used it at some point in their life. That's what I was saying. But most of them learned as society progressed during their lifetime. There is no excuse for it today.
I mentioned georgia because of time (which I thought was pre-60s) and place, not because I said anything about everyone being ignorant, backwards, bigots.
I'm writing from my home in Chattanooga, TN.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)the time or place. Too many people think that one cannot be racist unless one utters that horrible word. But being a racist isn't just about using the N-word; it's about feelings or expressions of superiority simply because one's skin color is different from another.
I thank you for your kind words.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)see how this lawsuit plays out before they decide, imo.
If you read her deposition, she is an individual who does not have the integrity to apologize for
her hateful racist comments. I do find her responses calculating and the purpose appears an
attempt to appeal to people that she did not "intend" to be racist...it's just that the N word
is what comes to mind from time to time and dreaming of a plantation wedding scenario is
something most mainstream people would fancy for themselves. Her lawyers should rethink
their strategy....and I do hope it all blows up in her face.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I enjoy a lot of the shows they do have. Maybe you just do not appreciate cooking shows.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)They began in earnest and ending up with hacks with little to no talent.
They have Ina Garten left and very few others who are of value...and that is it.
To each his own, foodie.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I guess we can only hope.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)she's Gov. Cuomo's GF
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I imagine the governor has a trained chef who prepares his meals, not her.
Mz Pip
(27,453 posts)Vodka, whipped cream and sloe gin. They were called Bloody Stallions.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Bailey's as a prank
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)She has more than earned it.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,709 posts)Smithfield was found guilty of many labor law violations in keeping unions out of it's plants. She wouldn't drop them even though she could have done so legally.
Some of HER former employees have said some eye openers about her too.
Omaha Steve
(99,709 posts)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/28/415371/-Hey-Y-all-Boycott-Paula-Deen-and-Smithfield-Ham#
Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 10:53 AM PST
Hey Y'all, Boycott Paula Deen and Smithfield Ham
Diane Rehm just interviewed Paula Deen on the radio, promoting her latest cookbook Christmas with Paula Deen. I am sure that by the time it was over, Paula was sorry that she had agreed to the interview.
Although I only caught the last few minutes, what I heard was Diane questioning Paula about conditions at the Smithfield Packing factory in Tarheel, North Carolina. Paula Deen is a paid spokesperson for Smithfield, promoting their product at every appearance she makes. Meanwhile, Smithfield has become notorious for its dangerous and otherwise inhuman working conditions, as well as it's relentless anti-union activity. As Chicago Sun Times columnist Teresa Puente stated in a recent article, "The conditions at the company have been documented by Human Rights Watch, the National Labor Relations Board and OSHA. They are so notorious that last year the Chicago City Council passed a resolution critical of Smithfield."http://www.suntimes.com/...
So, what was the beloved Food Network chef's response to Diane's questions, as well as those of the obviously many people who took the time to call in and to write e-mails to Diane Reems, so that she could ask Paula about Smithfield, and her involvement with them?
"I have no particular expertise in these [labor] matters. I only have expertise in how ham tastes, and how it is processed." Essentially the Joe Klein defense we all have become accustomed to. If Paula were to use her head for more than just eating, she might realize that what she is saying is that she has relinquished her role as a human being, and is shutting her eyes to human suffering, because someone is paying her to do it.
" I have met with workers at the plant, and they have never expressed to me any unhappiness." Yes, Paula has apparently sat down and met with the largely black and Latino factory workers of Smithfield and they have expressed nothing but happiness to her. They have never indicated that they did not love their jobs, nor that they wanted a union.
FULL story at link.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)According to the customer in Texas. Well, I certainly never have, nor has anyone in my family. Granted, we're from SoCal, but still. My oldest grandson is biracial and I bet he's heard it, which really pisses me off!
Archae
(46,345 posts)"She said a BAD WORD!"
"She should be thrown off the TV!"
"Errr...why?"
"Cause *I* don't like her!"
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)the whole thing with wanting the all black crew to serve at her wedding?
jeez.
are you white? if you are, isn't it convenient to not care?
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)I think she should be horsewhipped.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...by not thinking about "horsewhipping" people.
Or horses, for that matter.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Relevant part begins at about 2:35 or so.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seems you have a firm grasp on one aspect of the free market system, and the consequences that may arise.
(just 'cause it's fun to do...)
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)she mistreated her workers based on racism and racial epithets.
i guess racism is no big deal to you.
mind you, she will still be filthy rich after all is said and done.
LibGranny
(711 posts)She won't apologize nor will she stop endorsing Smithfield Ham because it's too lucrative for her to not do so! I used to watch her (many years ago) but she quickly became too phoney for my taste!
FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)Enjoy:
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AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)The entire Tea Party just switch their channels from Fox News to the Food Network.
Cha
(297,655 posts)changed her racist ways. I believe in redemption if it's from the heart. Deen wouldn't be gaining or losing business from me, though; if it were in my neck of the woods.. I don't eat like that.
I remember she had FL Michelle Obama on her in 2008.. but, she told on her.. lol
She said: 'I did a show with Michelle and I just loved being with her.
'She probably ate more than any other guest I've ever had on the show.
'She kept eating even during commercials.'
After complimenting Michelle on her slim figure, Paula taught her how to fry shrimp during a TV segment in September 2008, shortly before the presidential election.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047901/Paula-Deen-Michelle-Obama-ate-guest-Ive-show.html
The thing about Michelle is ..she takes care of herself so she can afford to indulge when she's in the mood.
thanks Steve
And give her some points for being honest - she didn't have to admit to that.
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)It's so deeply indoctrinated (which is not surprising given her background) that she is not even aware that it's at the root of suggestions such as having all black male waiters at a wedding. She has the means to educate herself and if she is willing to do that and speak openly and frankly about it, then she can make strides towards greater enlightenment. However, if she just wants to sweep this under the rug to keep the $$$$ rolling in, she will have proven her accusers to be correct in their assessment of her.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)at least once. Two Christmases ago I accompanied a friend of mine and her husband to visit her cousin in AL (near Auburn University). She's around Paula's age. Lovely woman, charming and a great hostess. At some point we were talking to her daughter about a car we saw in a hair salon's parking lot. It was a conversation piece. Someone had attached steel eyelashes above the headlights. I mentioned that it probably belonged to one of the stylists. She responded no, more likely it belonged to a "non swimming Democrat". Her daughter agreed. I didn't know what the heck she was talking about. I asked my friend later and she explained it to me. My friend is a 60s hippie. She said that she loved her family but that she wished they still didn't have those long held beliefs of the South.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)The rest of my planned collection of Paula Deen cooking pots and pans is now scrapped. I already have the one skillet, bought before I found all this crap out. So, that will be it. I won't be buying any more Paula Deen branded stuff now. It is more than "used to use" the n word. She said it matter-of-factly, "Yes, of course." is up with that "of course" part? Like she's proud of that fact? It is expected in her circle of friends and family? Or what?
AND her idea of a southern wedding is a slave themed wedding. I've been to plenty of southern weddings, but none were slave themed. Most that I have been to either had family members doing the "catering" or Subway or some other local restaurant doing the catering. A slave themed wedding? That's just hideous.
I can only speak for myself. She has definitely lost a fan here. I urge everyone who is on the fence about it to read the actual deposition in its 149 page entirety like I did. It is a real eye opener.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)David__77
(23,503 posts)And that's no excuse. But the media act as if this is somehow rare. It's just rare that it was admitted.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I think what is really pushing this story is Paula Deen's personality and celebrity status. First, it seems that most of the people who are talking about this story think she has a nice personality and seems like a person who would never say something mean about someone, or to someone. Second, Deen is a celebrity, therefore; whenever she says something that is even slightly controversial it will make the news.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And that's no rationalization either. But people act as if this is somehow common. It's just rare that it happened to a celebrity.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)as to who hasn't said that word ever - That would be me. I learned at a very young age, from my parents, what an ugly disgusting word it was and it has never, ever crossed my lips. She needs a better group of people to hang with.
WovenGems
(776 posts)said he got type 2 simply by watching her show.
Samurai_Writer
(2,934 posts)My dad's father came here from Germany. My dad grew up hearing and using that word. When my mom and dad were dating in the late 1950s, my dad used that word in front of my mom. Once. She told him if he ever used that word again, she would break up with him. They got married in 1959 and were married for 32 years when my dad died in 1992.
Growing up, my dad was very open-minded and tolerant. He always taught us, a person's looks, skin color, etc, doesn't matter, only their integrity and how they treat other people. My very first boyfriend was black. In 1975. In a rather segregated town in Illinois (Blacks lived on one side of town, whites the other). My dad was completely cool with my boyfriend. His only 'rule' was that we double-date or group date, for safety reasons.
When my mom told me that story about my dad's using that word, I was shocked. That was not the man I grew up with, at all. So I guess if my dad could change so dramatically, so can Paula Deen. Although... I'm not real confident that she will, or even wants to.
Still Blue in PDX
(1,999 posts)Maybe I shouldn't admit it, but I was raised by parents born in 1919 and 1922, and it was a word commonly used in our household. I would be shocked to hear someone say it today, but I remember when it was just a noun and not a racial slur.
Even having said that and understanding the times she was raised in (I'm close to her age), Paula Deen should have more sense and more respect for EVERYONE than to speak and behave like she did.