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Omaha Steve

(99,708 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:26 PM Jun 2013

FAA moving toward easing electronic device use

Source: AP-Excite

By JOAN LOWY and SCOTT MAYEROWITZ

WASHINGTON (AP) - The government is moving toward easing restrictions on airline passengers using electronic devices to listen to music, play games, read books, watch movies and work during takeoffs and landings, but it could take a few months.

An industry-labor advisory committee was supposed to make recommendations next month to the Federal Aviation Administration on easing the restrictions. But the agency said in a statement Friday the deadline has been extended to September because committee members asked for extra time to finish assessing whether it's safe to lift restrictions.

"The FAA recognizes consumers are intensely interested in the use of personal electronics aboard aircraft; that is why we tasked a government-industry group to examine the safety issues and the feasibility of changing the current restrictions," the statement said.

The agency is under public and political pressure to ease the restrictions as more people bring their e-book readers, music and video players, smartphones and laptops with them when they fly.

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This Feb. 23, 2011 file photo shows United Airlines planes taxing at San Francisco International Airport in San Francisco. The government is moving toward easing restrictions on the use of electronic devices by airline passengers during taxiing, takeoffs and landings. An industry-labor advisory committee was expected to make recommendations next month to the Federal Aviation Administration on easing the restrictions, but the FAA said Friday that deadline has been extended to September. (AP Photo/Eric Risberg, File)

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FAA moving toward easing electronic device use (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2013 OP
I flew last week, first time since Fall 2010, so I'm not a regular flier by any stretch. . . Journeyman Jun 2013 #1
I've always found it interesting customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #2
exactly n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #3
Screens on the seatbacks are tested. Ready4Change Jun 2013 #4
Wow, I'll bet you could justify TSA security theater, too. customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #7
Odd isn't it canonfodder Jun 2013 #5
Which is going to hurt someone more customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #8
Shouldn't we already know down to the last decimal point how these devices affect aircraft? Jerry442 Jun 2013 #6
How hard is it to turn off a device during take off and landing? flying rabbit Jun 2013 #9

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
1. I flew last week, first time since Fall 2010, so I'm not a regular flier by any stretch. . .
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jun 2013

But it seemed quite the epitome of efficiency, and quite incapable of being misunderstood, when the Flight Attendants told us "anything with a switch" had to be off when we took off and landed.

Why make this any harder on the flight crews or give Joe & Josephine Citizen any "wriggle room" about the rules?

It's like a few weeks back, when they tried to change the rules on the length of knife that would be acceptable, then reversed themselves and said no knives at all.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. I've always found it interesting
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jun 2013

that a low-power e-reader could somehow screw up an aircraft's systems, yet a screen in every seat back going on and on from the second you walk on to a plane seems to have absolutely no effect.

Ready4Change

(6,736 posts)
4. Screens on the seatbacks are tested.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:12 AM
Jun 2013

The manufacturer goes through a lot of effort to ensure those seat back screens don't emit anything that will affect the instruments, including when, a decade or 3 down the line, those units are getting old and cranky. That's part of the reason a new airliner takes so long to certify for use.

Further, they are something the pilots have direct control over. If things up in the cockpit get wonky, they can pull a circuit break and all those screens go out, right now.

However, they have no way of knowing what a made-by-the-cheapest-bidder MP3 player or knock-off game system you may be bringing aboard may do. A lot of those devices couldn't care less what stray signals they emit, so long as make the proper boops and beeps and make pretty enough pictures on the screen. And if one of those makes a horizon indicator flip on its head there is no circuit breaker the pilots can pull to shut it down when they need it shut down, ie: NOW.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. Wow, I'll bet you could justify TSA security theater, too.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

Just went through all that shit today, it's crap. The TSA has never caught a terrorist, and we still act like the jihadis are going to seize planes to slam into buildings. It's never going to happen again with commercial aircraft.

But, let's treat everyone like a potential criminal simply to justify TSA jobs!

 

canonfodder

(208 posts)
5. Odd isn't it
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:20 AM
Jun 2013

As Ready4Change mentions above, the on-board systems are shielded.
It has been shown that electronic pax items currently have little or no effect on flight instruments and navigation.
The primary issue is safety.
Having those items depart the owner during a sudden unforeseen collision with mother earth, can cause injury.
Laptops can cause egress hazards. Ipods and such, not so much.
That's assuming you survive the unexpected stop.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. Which is going to hurt someone more
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jun 2013

My cellphone at 200 MPH, or a hardcover book at the same speed? One's legal to look at during takeoff and landing, and one's not.

It's all about control. The airlines have been given a piece of the control-freak thing that the TSA loves to do, and they won't let it go. That's the reason they freaked over the "small knives" thing a few weeks ago, which got a couple of corkscrews taken from us on a previous trip, because they had one-inch foil cutters. Even a French airliner has not been hijacked with a corkscrew.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
6. Shouldn't we already know down to the last decimal point how these devices affect aircraft?
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jun 2013

I have no axe to grind on the policy. Ban 'em all, or anything goes, or anything in between wouldn't affect my life much or hurt my principles. But....it drives me nuts that every discussion of this issue seems to involve lots and lots of speculation. Can we not get the folks with the oscilloscopes and the clipboards to give us some actual facts here?

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