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Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:32 PM Jul 2013

President Morales’ plane rerouted to Austria on suspicion Snowden on board.

Source: Washington Post

LA PAZ, Bolivia — Bolivian minister: President Morales’ plane rerouted to Austria on suspicion Snowden on board.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/bolivian-minister-president-morales-plane-rerouted-to-austria-on-suspicion-snowden-on-board/2013/07/02/8f81c2b8-e365-11e2-bffd-37a36ddab820_story.html



Also: seeing tweets that his plane has been denied air permits by Portugal and France. Stay tuned.
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President Morales’ plane rerouted to Austria on suspicion Snowden on board. (Original Post) Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 OP
Looks like EU is not that mad at the US flamingdem Jul 2013 #1
The Global 1% power-elite are nineteen50 Jul 2013 #2
You could also say they're following protocol flamingdem Jul 2013 #3
and you could say neo-liberalism has nineteen50 Jul 2013 #6
I am glad our forefathers did not follow nineteen50 Jul 2013 #22
Yours is the correct interpretation, I'm afraid. PSPS Jul 2013 #10
Feel free to explain bahrbearian Jul 2013 #38
Austria was neutral from 1955-1994. It is still somewhat neutral. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #27
Thanks, I was wondering about this history nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #28
In their anger cyclezealot Jul 2013 #42
Snowjob frontier00 Jul 2013 #4
Rerouted by whom? And by whose authority? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #5
I'm assuming someone isn't, and this is Wild Speculation Reported As Fact, Pt. MCXXVIII. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #8
It was to refuel in Portugal as planned, but was denied landing rights so they had to go to Austria leveymg Jul 2013 #14
They just lost the PR battle for a large chunk of the planet. Octafish Jul 2013 #18
A country has the right to deny airspace Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #15
After a Flight Plan is filed and approved, AND the plane is in the air? leveymg Jul 2013 #23
Yes Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #24
This isn't common or normal. It's really embarrassing and makes the US look like the bully, leveymg Jul 2013 #25
do you realize how fucked up this is? backwoodsbob Jul 2013 #40
I know. Let's pretend this is just Joe Average on a commercial flight! Violet_Crumble Jul 2013 #44
To heads of state? This is a huge over step. morningfog Jul 2013 #31
To any plane. n/t Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #32
Of course they do, we are on a MAN-HUNT, don't they know this?! We can shut down Boston, too! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #41
The US government is accused of blowing up the plane of cyclezealot Jul 2013 #43
Governments don't "reroute" foreign head of states' aircraft. Posteritatis Jul 2013 #7
More complete story Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #9
Morales landed in Austria. No Snowden. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #11
Spain too. Catherina Jul 2013 #12
NYC_SKP's car diverted from the Piggley Wiggley on suspicion Snowden in trunk. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #13
Fictional Non-story with no substance about essentially "nobody", i.e., Snowden George II Jul 2013 #16
King of the World, Ma! I'm King of the World! Octafish Jul 2013 #17
Ed thought he was King of the World when he was riding high in Hong Kong MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #30
You're right. I bet that's what a lot of people think. Octafish Jul 2013 #34
This is rather bizarre. DCBob Jul 2013 #19
Snowden not even on board. Embarrassing. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #20
Made up a new word frontier00 Jul 2013 #21
That's two words. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #26
Come on Europe frontier00 Jul 2013 #29
I'm doing a happy dance because Evo Morales is thumbing his nose at the US! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #33
Oldest trick in the book . "Look! - Over there. He's on that plane." PuffedMica Jul 2013 #35
Sheesh. If he's in that car, Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #36
The story here is that France And Portugal didn't want to EVEN take the Chance Cha Jul 2013 #37
This is a good sign. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #39
I am so damn sick of Obama's lies. I love weed Jul 2013 #45
Welcome to DU! RitchieRich Jul 2013 #46

flamingdem

(39,332 posts)
3. You could also say they're following protocol
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jul 2013

They don't want to end up like Putin with a headache if Snowden comes into their territory and they have a treaty with the USA.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
27. Austria was neutral from 1955-1994. It is still somewhat neutral.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jul 2013

The 1955 Austrian State Treaty ended the occupation of Austria following World War II and recognised Austria as an independent and sovereign state. On 26 October 1955, the Federal Assembly passed a constitutional article in which "Austria declares of her own free will her perpetual neutrality". The second section of this law stated that "in all future times Austria will not join any military alliances and will not permit the establishment of any foreign military bases on her territory". Since then, Austria has shaped its foreign policy on the basis of neutrality, but rather different from the neutrality of Switzerland.

Austria began to reassess its definition of neutrality following the fall of the Soviet Union, granting overflight rights for the UN-sanctioned action against Iraq in 1991, and, since 1995, it has developed participation in the EU's Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP). Also in 1995, it joined NATO's Partnership for Peace and subsequently participated in peacekeeping missions in Bosnia. Meanwhile, the only part of the Constitutional Law on Neutrality of 1955 still valid fully is not to allow foreign military bases in Austria.[citation needed]

Austria attaches great importance to participation in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development and other international economic organisations, and it has played an active role in the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). As an OSCE participating State, Austria's international commitments are subject to monitoring under the mandate of the U.S. Helsinki Commission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
14. It was to refuel in Portugal as planned, but was denied landing rights so they had to go to Austria
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jul 2013

The fact that NATO countries are playing this game tells me that the US really wants Snowden's ass. Big surprise.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. They just lost the PR battle for a large chunk of the planet.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

So, it's beginning to look a lot like Doomsday.

They don't care who they alienate.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
25. This isn't common or normal. It's really embarrassing and makes the US look like the bully,
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

again. Absolutely.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
40. do you realize how fucked up this is?
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jul 2013

We had the HEAD OF STATE of a nation forced to go through this.

THIS IS INSANE!!!

I hope Snowden is wearing bulletproff everything from head to toe...they are going to try to kill him.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
44. I know. Let's pretend this is just Joe Average on a commercial flight!
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 04:45 AM
Jul 2013

That way we don't have to worry ourselves with trifling things like international diplomacy Countries don't just give authorisation for a head of state to fly in their airspace and then turn round and retract it while the plane's in the air. Doing that leads to international incidents and all sorts of ill-feeling at high levels in the countries involved.

If it had been a US President it was done to, all hell would have broken loose and people wouldn't be sitting here saying that any country has a right to do that, so that's the end of it...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
31. To heads of state? This is a huge over step.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jul 2013

This is making the US look like bullies and desperate. I can't wait to find out what Snowden has. Damn.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
41. Of course they do, we are on a MAN-HUNT, don't they know this?! We can shut down Boston, too!
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:48 AM
Jul 2013

For 2 fucking dudes, the world better get used to the new normal, or else!


Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is coming!

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
43. The US government is accused of blowing up the plane of
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 04:37 AM
Jul 2013

Ecuadoran president Aquilera in 1981. Aquilera refused to play along with US investment schemes. Could be Biden told Corerra we won't blow up your plane , If.?
Moralles should feel lucky in that the US just felt inclined to delay Moralle' flight.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
7. Governments don't "reroute" foreign head of states' aircraft.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:42 PM
Jul 2013

I'm assuming BS on this one until something vaguely credible corroborates it.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
9. More complete story
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jul 2013
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bolivian-leaders-plane-rerouted-snowden-fear

LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) — Bolivia's foreign minister says the plane bringing President Evo Morales home from Russia was rerouted to Austria after France and Portugal refused to let it to cross their airspace because of suspicions that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was on board.
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
11. Morales landed in Austria. No Snowden.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jul 2013

Bolivia is expressing its unhappiness with France and Portugal, who denied access to their air space based on rumors. Craven maggot governments.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. NYC_SKP's car diverted from the Piggley Wiggley on suspicion Snowden in trunk.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jul 2013

Update, nothing back there but some recyling bins.

....

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. King of the World, Ma! I'm King of the World!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

Democracies? We don't need no stinkin' Democracies.



We tell Democracies where to go and where to get off.

 

MjolnirTime

(1,800 posts)
30. Ed thought he was King of the World when he was riding high in Hong Kong
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

Now he'll see how far down is.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
34. You're right. I bet that's what a lot of people think.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jul 2013

Others, including me, think democracy is more important than protecting an unconstitutional domestic spy operation.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
33. I'm doing a happy dance because Evo Morales is thumbing his nose at the US!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jul 2013

That's what we're supposed to celebrate, right? Thumbing of noses at the global hegemon?

More statements, Evo! More, more, more! Nose thumbing, excelsior!

PuffedMica

(1,061 posts)
35. Oldest trick in the book . "Look! - Over there. He's on that plane."
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jul 2013

Meanwhile Snowden is escaping the Moscow Airport in the back seat of some rusted out jalopy.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
36. Sheesh. If he's in that car,
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:47 PM
Jul 2013

I hope he gets to where he's going before winter sets in. Doesn't look like that car comes with options - you know, like heat.

Cha

(297,772 posts)
37. The story here is that France And Portugal didn't want to EVEN take the Chance
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

that Snitch heel was on board.

LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) — The plane carrying Bolivian President Evo Morales home from Russia was rerouted to Austria on Tuesday after France and Portugal refused to let it cross their airspace because of suspicions that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was on board, the country's foreign minister said.


Mahalo Benton

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
39. This is a good sign.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:02 AM
Jul 2013

Our Ecuadorian guacamole orders were in jeopardy because of Snowden.
For now, it looks like prices will remain stable for guacamole in the U.S., as the all important guacamole import trade from Ecuador will still flow into the States at the same rate as before.

Whew, that was a close one.

 

I love weed

(50 posts)
45. I am so damn sick of Obama's lies.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jul 2013

He gave a speech a few days ago downplaying Snowden's importance, saying sarcastically he won't be scrambling jets to get a "29 year old hacker".

And now this happens. What a damn liar, what a fraud and coward. What an obscene insult to the president of an independent nation.

So sick of our "government". I hope We the Sheeple wake up and realize the R vs D show is just BS to distract us. I see so many people here and everywhere get so caught up in partisan cheerleading and mudslinging that they miss the big picture. (And that is of course by design.)

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