going to need to breakout the 'white-board' and start keeping score.

Apparently "the truth" has become an obsolete concept.....sorta like the Constitution.

I think someone got at the French for them to change their story. Maybe Agent Mike????

This was an outrage.

he could probably get them to withdraw their offer of asylum.

But we have our Yankee heads so far up our Yankee asses they're inextricable.

They are our back yard...Kerry told us so.
And the back yard is where you let your dogs out to take a shit.

Well I lied in part, the Rove playbook just reads "don't apologize", the other part I just made up. I have yet to see an article where any of the countries that supposedly denied fly space to Morales have admitted it was due to pressure from the US. Now of course we probably were behind it in some form or fashion unless the whole incident was manufactured - a distinct possibility - but I have yet to see a smoking gun that points back to the US. It's like we've beaten the countries into submission by using a sock filled with tangerines (it leaves no marks).

A lot of the story doesn't quite add up, I think in a few weeks we may know a bit more and the whole thing will come out in a few years or maybe decades. Gut feeling is that we were played

Haven't you been reading:

TODAY'S TOADY TALKING POINTS WITH ROFL AND LMAO!

What I want to know is when does being whiplashed by reality ever cause these people pain?

really anxious to see the new talking points to discount this.

Snowden is found he will be killed along with anyone else around him and we won't hear a thing about it

Those are the real shitbags that need to killed.

here on DU...that Morales was some pompous posturing President no-one had ever heard of before...why is France apologizing when DUers say it never happened ?

You just flip on the "levitate" switch and take a nap until the situation gets resolved.

Those pilots that fly around presidents and world leaders sure are getting lazy...

Who knew?

It is understandable that Bolivian protesters would burn the French flag in protest.

We need to clean out the rot.

between authoritarianism and being an authority. In the later, education, experience, and know-how leads to a level of knowledge that makes one an authority on a subject or subjects. There is confidence based on maturity.

In the former, a deep sense of insecurity and dependence puts up a front of superior knowledge that really is only skin-deep. They insist that knowledge is what they have. If challenged, the only thing they really have is fear. This makes them controlling, obstinate, bullying, and prone to radical distortions of reality.

It truly saddens me to see such a rise in authoritarianism in America today. It has infiltrated everything from education to business to both political parties. It assumes anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy or has something to hide. If you disagree with a policy of control, then you must be someone who NEEDS to be controlled.

Watching this Bolivian plane incident unfold all day has been enlightening. I now know who all of the worst offenders are on DU, and they are prolific and rabid posters, the lot of them.

I am going to place about a dozen of them on Ignore for a few days and see what DU looks like when I can't see their posts. It should be interesting.

political reaction I have seen to anything in my entire life

deconstructionist age, words no longer have objective, and only subjective meaning. Liberal does not mean what it used to mean. Neither does conservative, libertarian, progressive, Democratic or Republican for that matter.

Newspeak will take care of the rest.

Reagan Democrats.

Thanks for the post.

But, but, but I was told here it never happened.

You mean...some folks were like wrong and shit?



The consequences are just starting.