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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:17 AM Jul 2013

Obama’s fall visit to go ahead despite Snowden affair – Kremlin

Source: RT

The preparations for the US President’s visit to Moscow are going ahead and Russia has not been informed of a possible cancellation, Vladimir Putin’s spokesman has said.

Dmitry Peskov commented on Monday after leading Russian daily Kommersant reported, quoting its own unnamed source in the US State Department, that Washington was considering the cancellation of Barack Obama’s visit to Moscow in September if NSA leaker Edward Snowden was still in Russia at that time.

President Obama is expected to visit Moscow in early September to meet with Vladimir Putin ahead of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg.

“We are in constant contact with our American colleagues, trying to make the summit as charged as possible. The situation is crystal clear – it is not Russia’s fault Snowden is unable to leave the transit zone,” Peskov told the press.


Read more: http://rt.com/politics/snowden-obama-report-visit-769/



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Obama’s fall visit to go ahead despite Snowden affair – Kremlin (Original Post) bemildred Jul 2013 OP
Well stated, business between different countries must go on, this Snowden deal is not as important Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #1
I think that is one of the missed points in this affair, it is really not that important. bemildred Jul 2013 #2
It's not Russia's fault? Igel Jul 2013 #3
What the hell? frontier00 Jul 2013 #4

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Well stated, business between different countries must go on, this Snowden deal is not as important
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jul 2013

as the G20 meeting. No, it is not Russia's fault Snowden is unable to leave the transit zone, Snowden could agree to return to the US, plead for a lesser charge in exchange of exposing the conspiracy, face whatever legal issues he has to face, this is up to Snowden. Talk about his safety, I would not doubt if the conspiracy members are exposed they would probably try to assassinate Snowden. What deal, he will be in his own self imposed incarceration if he gets asylum in a country which does not offer the liberties we have here in the US.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. I think that is one of the missed points in this affair, it is really not that important.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jul 2013

It is noticeable that nobody much in these foreign governments seems inclined to try to control Mr. Snowden and his data, they just want him out of their hair without looking like toadies.

The OP is more an expression of Russia's desire to keep doing business with us than anything else, it was almost plaintive.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
3. It's not Russia's fault?
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:27 PM
Jul 2013

In a sense, sure. On the other hand, the transit zone is a creation of the Russian governments, it still polices the zone and enforces order. It makes the rules. If it wanted to expel him, the Russian government could.

It's like your mother telling you that since you ate dessert first and spoiled your dinner, you're going to be sent to your room without any tv or phone privileges. "It's not my fault you need to spend the evening in your room." Mother made the rule; mother's enforcing the rule. Now mother posits the rule as something that exists apart from her authority, with the penalty being put forward as a kind of law of nature that she has no control over. Like gravity or beta decay.

It's a way for the rule-maker and rule-enforcer to place the blame clearly on others for their actions. In this case, Snowden's temerity to land without a visa (which, of course, is another of those law-of-nature kinds of rules that Russia expects of visitors), and the US' suspension of his passport, making it impossible for him to go anywhere but back to the US.

As it is, this is a non-story. Some unnamed source said something is being considered by somebody in State. RT likes this kind of story. It encourages a sense of being slighted by the US, which many RT readers rather enjoy. It means they're being slighted, and that's better than being ignored. Plus it's another reason to be outraged, also something that many people find apparently very pleasurable.

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