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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:03 PM Jul 2013

White House says will not immediately cut off aid to Egypt

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - The White House said on Monday it is not in the best interests of the United States to immediately change its aid program to Egypt, where President Mohamed Mursi was removed from office by the military last week.

The U.S. government is not yet prepared to label the Egyptian military's overthrow of the government as a coup, a decision that would determine whether U.S. aid to the country would continue, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

"There are significant consequences that go along with this determination and it is a highly charged issue for millions of Egyptians who have differing views about what happened," Carney told reporters at a briefing.

"We are going to take the time necessary to review what has taken place and to monitor efforts by Egyptian authorities to forge an inclusive and democratic way forward," he said.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/08/us-egypt-protests-usa-aid-idUSBRE9670VC20130708

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White House says will not immediately cut off aid to Egypt (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jul 2013 OP
"not yet prepared to label the Egyptian military's overthrow of the government as a coup" PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #1
Tell the WH they've offered asylum to Snowden Spirochete Jul 2013 #2
lol dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #3
When is a coup not a coup? When it serves our interests, apparently. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #4
Part of the background to this is the loop dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #5
Bingo! nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #8
The law in question also restricts funds Riftaxe Jul 2013 #7
Ask Exxon--does it benefit them? warrant46 Jul 2013 #9
White House decides US above the law Riftaxe Jul 2013 #6
This is a good decision. David__77 Jul 2013 #10
True vdogg Jul 2013 #11
In the short term it probably does not matter. ManiacJoe Jul 2013 #12
Makes sense to wait imo because as I posted a few days ago a stable cstanleytech Jul 2013 #13

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. "not yet prepared to label the Egyptian military's overthrow of the government as a coup"
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:09 PM
Jul 2013

Politics > English.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. When is a coup not a coup? When it serves our interests, apparently.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jul 2013

There is NO QUESTION this was a coup, no matter how much popular support it had. US law requires us to cut off assistance to countries that have undergone coups. There is a "national security" exception ("How conveeenient," says the Church Lady), but I see that Carney has not invoked that. Instead, he is just playing semantic games.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. Part of the background to this is the loop
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jul 2013

whereby taxpayers money is donated to Egypt for Egypt to buy arms from the MIC. As such the US public helps keep the MIC profitable. No aid to Egypt eguals less profits for US companies.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
7. The law in question also restricts funds
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jul 2013

if the "military plays a decisive role" in regime change.

So the tap dancing should be worthy to say the least, since just dodging the term coup d’état is irrelevant to the that particular subsection of the law.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
6. White House decides US above the law
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jul 2013

Laws are clearly meant to only be followed by the peasants, there is no reason the US should be inconvenienced by such trifling regulations such as laws. Surely no one will mind if we ignore the law, and besides even if they do, who cares? nothing they can do about it anyways.

The U.S. Holds The Aid Card, Yet Egypt Still Trumps

PL 112–74
(7008)
SEC. 7008. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made
available pursuant to titles III through VI of this Act shall be
obligated or expended to finance directly any assistance to the
government of any country whose duly elected head of government
is deposed by military coup d’état or decree or, after the date
of enactment of this Act, a coup d’etat or decree in which the
military plays a decisive role:



Is clearly ambiguous at best...really....

David__77

(23,456 posts)
10. This is a good decision.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jul 2013

And the concept of coups always being bad and democracy always being good is nonsense anyway. There are signs that the military government in Egypt is acting decisively against terrorism and religious extremism, and that is a good thing!

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
11. True
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jul 2013

But it makes me queasy nonetheless. This should've been a last resort instead of the first option. Morsi was deeply unpopular, it's doubtful he would've survived the next election. This coup should've happened at the ballot box.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
12. In the short term it probably does not matter.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jul 2013

This year's aid was distributed back in May(?) from what I have read in the newspapers.

cstanleytech

(26,310 posts)
13. Makes sense to wait imo because as I posted a few days ago a stable
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jul 2013

Egypt is best for both the region and the Egyptian people and cutting off aid right away (even though legally they could) might have the effect of worsening the situation for the Egyptian people and the region.

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