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Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:49 AM Jul 2013

US spy program eyes energy info in Latin America: Report

Source: Associated Press

US spy program eyes energy info in Latin America: Report
By AP | 10 Jul, 2013, 10.56AM IST

BRASILIA: A US spy program is widely targeting data in emails and telephone calls across Latin America, and is focusing on energy issues, not just information related to military, political or terror topics, a Brazilian newspaper reported Tuesday.

~ snip ~

O Globo published what it said are slides that Snowden released indicating the US effort is gathering information on energy in Mexico and oil in Venezuela. There was no information released about what information was obtained, nor any companies that were targeted.

The report also said that Colombia, the strongest US military ally in South America, along with Mexico and Brazil, were the countries where the US program intercepted the biggest chunks of information on emails and telephone calls during the last five years. Similar activities took place in Argentina and Ecuador, among others.

Figures weren't published on how many intercepts occurred.
O Globo also reported that the documents it's seen indicate the US had data collection centers in 2002 for material intercepted from satellites in Bogota, Caracas, Mexico City and Panama City, along with Brasilia. There was no information published about the existence of these centers after 2002.

Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/us-spy-program-eyes-energy-info-in-latin-america-report/articleshow/20999134.cms

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Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
1. Colombia NSA’s 3rd most spied on country in Latin America
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:52 AM
Jul 2013

Colombia NSA’s 3rd most spied on country in Latin America
posted by Marcus Sales
Jul 9, 2013

Colombia has been the third largest priority for espionage in Latin America by US intelligence agency NSA, behind only Brazil and Mexico.

According to secret documents obtained by Brazilian newspaper O Globo, the NSA was responsible for a constant flow of intelligence gathering on Colombia and other Latin American countries dating back to 2008. Between January and March of this year, O Globo claim that the United States conducted espionage in Latin America using two programs, known as prism and boundless informant.

Prism allowed access to web chats, e mails and voice mails through social media sites such as facebook, google and youtube. Boundless informant however, sought to develop corporate partners, in an effort to “extend their reach” and receive access to international communications. An undated document, named “Operation Silverzephyr” showed the NSA’s intent to build partnerships with private satellite operators, telephone and transmission networks.

O Globo claim that the United States were not only interested in military affairs, but used these programs to access the “trade secrets” of targeted nations. For example the oil sector in Venezuela and the energy sector in Mexico.

Read more: http://colombiareports.com/colombia-the-third-most-spied-on-country-in-latin-america/

Lobo27

(753 posts)
2. All I know is that with all this spying BS going around.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:11 AM
Jul 2013

There better not be another damn war. Hey Mexico we're in another war, hook it up w/ some oil like you have done in previous wars. Mexico's response a big, FUCK YOU.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. Brazil, MX and Colombia also happen to be the three most populous countries in Latin America.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:12 AM
Jul 2013

can't say I'm a bit surprised by this.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. A new Cold War would not be in US interests
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jul 2013

The kind of Cold War where heating oil is too expensive to keep the house warm!

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. Nice to have confirmation that TPTB are nervous about the world's energy future.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:43 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Energy, after all, is the keystone resource of the global economy, and the driver of civilization. As energy goes, so goes the world.

As a long-time Peak Oil observer, I've become excruciatingly aware of how important energy is - especially issues like transportation fuels, net energy (EROI), imports and exports vs. national consumption, and what happens to states like Egypt whose national oil reserves run dry.

These are the issues on which small nations and great empires alike rise and fall. They're right to be very concerned.

Martak Sarno

(77 posts)
7. An Energy (oil) ''Leak?"
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jul 2013

You don't suppose information like this from the National Secrets Agency, should it find its leaked way into the hands of, say, Wall Streeters, the Stock Market and such, could be of any monetary value for them, now, could it?

I don't imagine this could account for gas prices staying high the last few years (knowing secretly how much oil might be available) or the remarkable profits of the oil companies!

And if it were "leaked" to those who set prices for oil in America to maintain those high profits, wouldn't the Obama Administration seriously go after the leakers?


Sorry. That was hard to write with a straight face!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
8. Panama. Hm-m-m.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jul 2013
"O Globo also reported that the documents it's seen indicate the US had data collection centers in 2002 for material intercepted from satellites in Bogota, Caracas, Mexico City and Panama City, along with Brasilia." --from the OP (my emphasis)


I'm reminded of the Wikileaks item about the rightwing prez of Panama demanding the same spying help against his "enemies" that the Bush Junta was giving to their mafia boss/prez of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe. Uribe, of course, is notorious for his domestic spying agency (DAS, now disbanded) which was spying on judges and prosecutors, and other Uribe "enemies," and drawing up 'hit lists' for assassinating labor leaders. Clearly, the Bush Junta was aiding Uribe in this crime. Testimony about it revealed that Bush Junta ambassador to Colombia (Wm. Brownfield) had a U.S. liaison between DAS and the U.S. embassy. Panama's prez thought he ought to get similar aid.

Also interesting: Uribe's head of DAS, Maria Hurtado, got instant asylum in Panama when Colombian prosecutors sought to interrogate her about Uribe and DAS. I suspect that the CIA--Leon Panneta--arranged that asylum, in the process of cleaning up after Bush Jr. (Panetta was a member of Bush Sr.'s "Iraq Study Group"--the group that probably ousted Rumsfeld back in 2006.)

The Wikileaks item on Panama's prez was pre-2008 (Bush Junta era). The other article you cite (in comment #1) says the data collection on Colombia and others goes "back to 2008." Several thoughts occur: Bush Junta purged evidence of their worldwide and domestic spying when they exited direct power over the U.S. government in 2008? Why does the evidence of data collection/spying go back to only 2008? It does not seem probable that the Bush Junta was "clean" on general worldwide and domestic spying--indeed, that is laughable--while the Obama administration came in and started up a worldwide and domestic spying operation? Much more probable, a continuum, initiated within the MIC out the outset of the Bush Junta and presented to Obama as a fait accompli--which, like many other gross crimes by the Bush Junta, he cannot, or doesn't want to, stop. He has acted as an apologist for many Bush Junta crimes, and stated, with regard to their obvious war crimes, that "We need to look forward not backward." (GAWD. And him a legal scholar out of Harvard!) (But then, guess who got a cushy academic sinecure at Harvard? Alvaro Uribe!)

Panama (spied upon). The Canal, of course, and the labor unions (esp. the dock unions), would be of interest to the U.S. war machine. And I imagine that keeping track of all political actors including "friends" (i.e., getting the goods on them, for control purposes) would be a priority. It's very funny, in a ludicrous way, that the U.S. was spying on Panama's prez, while Panama's prez was demanding U.S. help to spy on his "enemies." Oh, the irony!

Venezuela, Brazil (spied upon). Oil, obviously. That is the biggest driver of U.S. policy. Venezuela has the largest reserves of crude on the planet (more than Saudi Arabia), and they got good and sick of most of the profits going to the likes of Exxon Mobil (Chavez drove Exxon Mobil out of Venezuela with a hard bargain on profit-sharing with the Venezuelan people). Brazil had just discovered a new major reserve, when the U.S. (Bush Junta) reconstituted the U.S. 4th Fleet (mothballed since WW II) in the Caribbean. Brazil's prez (Lula da Silva) stated that the 4th Fleet is "a threat to Brazil's oil" (let alone Venezuela's), and proposed creating a common LatAm military defense. He took a cue from Venezuela and dedicated a big portion of the new oil profits to social programs.

All this needs to be closely spied upon, if you're running a war machine and if oil corporations are running the government, as here. But more than this, you can't do successful black ops, dirty tricks, disinformation campaigns and coup d 'etats, without keeping close track of all trends and movements in the targeted societies, so you can plug your agents into various groups, for timely disruptions and chaos, to capitalize on any political weaknesses you may find, to learn how to effectively slander leftist leaders who oppose your designs, to study the election system and figure out how to rig it, to find out how to "make the economy scream" on cue (product and financial manipulation), and so on, to weaken and even overthrow good governments and democracy itself, so that all the oil flows into the U.S. war machine and all the profits flow into the pockets of the very, very, very rich.

Oil!

Frankly, I think that Obama-Panetta have been better at this sort of thing (spying, targeting) than the Bush Junta was, in LatAm anyway. The Bush Junta probably had plenty of illicit data on everyone but didn't use it very well. The region was fast going "red" under their auspices; whereas the Obama team has had some fascist victories (Honduras, Paraguay) and a near victory in Venezuela (close-call leftist win, which Obama has yet to recognize, though all the world--including all the world's election monitoring groups--have recognized it as legit).

Colombia (spied upon). It, too, has a lot of oil, but it is already a U.S. client state and the linchpin of U.S. strategy to regain control of Latin America. That strategy begins with the U.S. "circle the wagons" region--Central America and the Caribbean, including both Colombia's and Venezuela's Caribbean coast areas. The U.S. re-conquered Honduras in 2009 with a rightwing/military coup d'etat. Honduras is the traditional stepping stool for U.S. aggression against its Central American neighbors. Nicaragua (leftist government) is a target, again. El Salvador (weaker leftist government) is on a short leash (was kneecapped into dropping its application to join ALBA--the Venezuela/Cuba-organized trade group). The U.S. is desperately trying to hold dominion over this "circle the wagons" region. And while Honduras is important to this dominion, Colombia--a big hunk of South America that edges on this region--is the key. It straddles Central and South America. It has a long, porous border with Venezuela, already used for spiriting rightwing death squads from Colombia into Venezuela, with the purposes of assassination and overthrow, and setting up Murder, Inc., (the "Black Eagles" criminal organization) within Venezuelan territory.

Colombia has acquiesced to the blood-soaked, murderous, corrupt, failed U.S. "war on drugs" and the brutal displacement of FIVE MILLION peasant farmers from their lands. (Hundreds of thousands of these have fled into Venezuela and Ecuador for refuge and for their good social programs.) Colombia is riddled with cocaine traffickers from the top to the bottom of its society (the most corrupt society in Latin America, and thus eminently bribable and threaten-able). And, most important, Colombia has acquiesced to U.S. military bases and "forward operating locations" (and recently proposed to become a member of NATO). It has become, quite literally, a base for U.S. military operations. Colombia's military has received $7 BILLION in U.S. aid (that we know about).

So, spotting trends and knowing what's what in Colombia is very, very important to the U.S. war machine and its corporate allies.

It is quite fascinating, in this context, that Colombia's new prez, Manual Santos, has come out for the complete legalization of drugs and has also initiated serious peace talks with the FARC guerrillas, to end Colombia's 70-year civil war. It is probably very important to the U.S. war machine and its corporate allies how these two policies play out, and especially that this, what might be called "liberalization," not go too far. Big Pharma, Monsanto, et al, probably want the market in herbal, recreational and addictive drugs. They and other U.S. corps want the land and the resources. The FARC wants the peasant farmers' lands restored and a chance at political participation. (Last time they demobilized, 5,000 of them were slaugtered by rightwing death squads.) The other thing that Colombia's political elite acquiesced to was U.S. "free trade for the rich"--an extension of U.S. economic policy in Central America (blanket exploitation of labor and natural resources).

The trend in the rest of South America is the opposite--with strong, popular, leftist governments elected in Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay and, of course, Venezuela, and soon to be elected in Chile (this year). Peru has a sort of leftist government (saddled with a Bush era "free trade for the rich" agreement). Paraguay had a leftist government (first in 60 years!) until a recent U.S.-supported rightwing coup. (But Paraguay doesn't amount to much, as to economics. They do, though, control a big aquifer, and are now a "forward operating location" for the U.S. military, in the heart of leftist South America.)

The leftist governments are united on many policies and are working together, in very smart ways, to implement them. These include social programs (education, health care, pensions, etc.), eliminating poverty, sharing the wealth, economic development, REGIONAL and multilateral financing of economic development (anti-World Bank/IMF), creating "south-south" trade and multilateral trade, creating regional institutions that exclude the U.S., and rejection of U.S. control and domination.

Colombia becomes all the more important as a bulwark against this independence trend, given the awesome leftist democracy movement in South America. And it is vitally important that the rich, rightwing elite that runs Colombia (interlaced with the cocaine trade, the death squads and the military) stay in power. If the people of Colombia are ever able to elect a government like those in Brazil, Venezuela and these other leftist democracies, it's all over for U.S. corporate exploitation and war planning starting at the Panama Canal and going south. They will be restricted to Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica and Panama (and Nicaragua will be rather isolated, if they are able to retain their democracy; as Paraguay will be isolated in the south--Paraguay may go back the other way, toward the left and toward democracy, if the U.S. cannot maintain its support of the Paraguayan rightwing, in these circumstances; but as long as Colombia remains a U.S. client state, Paraguay can probably maintain elite rule**).

There is another factor in U.S./LatAm relations that should be mentioned and it is this: Even the rightwing in Latin America resents U.S. dictation (most of them), and its political leaders are routinely compelled to give at least lip service to the sovereignty of their own countries. The U.S. is playing with fire when it does things like detain Evo Morales' official jet, and announces the bombing of Libya FROM Brazil (Obama visit--major breach of diplomatic protocol; an insult), and persists in its insane policy on Cuba and its insane "war on drugs," and spies on all of them. Is this stupidity, tone-deafness, deliberate provocation or war prep? Was John Kerry's reference to LatAm as "our backyard" a slip-of-the-tongue, or intentional?

Many of these things seem designed to alienate Latin America, even the natural U.S. allies (rightwingers and fascists). Is the U.S. on a war path with South America? I have long worried over this. But I hate to think it's true and that our own Democratic Party leaders are helping it along (as with Clinton prepping Iraq for the Bush Junta war). Seems like the worst often turns out to be true, of our government, no matter who is in alleged control of it.

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**(On the other hand, Colombia going leftist democratic may liberate Central America. One of the Honduran coup generals stated that their coup was "intended to prevent communism from Venezuela reaching the United States." I have translated "communism" to mean (to this general) universal free medical care, universal free education through college, labor rights, etc. But perhaps he meant something broader--that their coup was intended to prevent democracy from Venezuela spreading north, as it has spread south. Venezuela was the pioneer of South America's democracy revolution. This is one of the reasons that the U.S. hates the Chavez/Maduro government so much. If Colombia undergoes a similar democracy revolution--not likely, but if they did--then it might well spread up through Central America to our very border. Our rulers had better get that wall firmed up!) ('The Leftists are coming! The Leftists are coming!')

Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
9. You've delivered even more to think about. It's been very strange watching US policy
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 03:30 AM
Jul 2013

regarding the Americas. Things have been very intense for some time, and our corporate media simply spinning away daily, with pathetic disinformation, always ready to confuse and mislead.

You encourage us all to start keeping closer track of events, and NOT be subtly manipulated into thinking by our corporate media that these human beings south of the border are not wildly valuable, interesting, usually very moral people (except for the dirty power-hungry fascists). Contrary to cheap, dirty, arrogant racism handed to us commonly through our cultural media, entertainment, calculated misrepresentation in "news" articles, and right-wing politicians, and right-wing xenophobic attitudes, Latin American human beings are not ignorant, drunken, lazy, hot headed, violent know-nothings the US should control.

Who can forget the "immortal words" of Henry Kissinger, about Chile's turn to the left with the election of a wonderful leftist, Salvador Allende?

[font size=3]I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.

Henry A. Kissinger
Nixon's Secretary of State, Nobel Peace Prize Winner[/font]

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/henry_a_kissinger.html#QG1GmRgwuM7V0Hi3.99

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
11. I can't wait to hear us try to convince Latin America
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:53 AM
Jul 2013

I can't wait to hear us try to convince Latin America that surveillance is good and is keeping them safe from the evil ones.

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