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peoli

(3,111 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:52 PM Jul 2013

Federal Judge Authorizes Chevron’s Sweeping Subpoena Of Activists’ Internet Data

Source: ThinkProgress

It’s not just the NSA that’s collecting massive amounts of personal data with judicial approval. In a ruling publicized by EarthRights International, a federal judge in New York approved a subpoena by Chevron to obtain any documents Microsoft has related to the identity of 30 anonymous individuals allegedly of interest in the litigation, including every IP address over a period of nine years.

The case involves an $18.2 billion judgment against Chevron in an Ecuador court, for massive environmental contamination from oil drilling. The Ecuadorian court found that Chevron had dumped toxic waste into Amazon waterways used by indigenous groups for drinking water and caused massive harm to the rainforest. Chevron responded by filing a lawsuit in U.S. court alleging that the plaintiffs engaged in a conspiracy to defraud the company.

As part of this lawsuit, Chevron has subpoenaed Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo to request all information related to the email addresses of more than 100 advocates, journalists, lawyers, and others. These individuals are not parties to the suit, but Chevron alleges that they are involved directly or indirectly in the litigation, and may have been outspoken critics of Chevron’s conduct. U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan explains the scope of what Chevron was seeking from Microsoft:

To summarize, if Microsoft still has and were to produce the requested information, Chevron would learn the IP address associated with every login for every account over a nine-year period. Chevron could identify the countries, states, or even cities where the users logged into accounts, and perhaps, in some instances, could determine the actual building addresses.




Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/10/2275611/federal-judge-authorizes-chevrons-sweeping-subpoena-of-activists-internet-data/

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Federal Judge Authorizes Chevron’s Sweeping Subpoena Of Activists’ Internet Data (Original Post) peoli Jul 2013 OP
There are a hope... TRoN33 Jul 2013 #1
Blackmail BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #24
This seems to be carrying discovery phase too far. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #2
seems to be the definition of a "fishing expedition" tk2kewl Jul 2013 #5
It would be a first amendment claim. Not a fourth. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #7
seems like an search without proper cause to me tk2kewl Jul 2013 #9
This civil court, not criminal. The fourth does not apply. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #10
Private corporations are not constrained by the 1st or 4th amendments. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #11
and the government is the one who allows the defense's subpoena to stand, right? tk2kewl Jul 2013 #12
As I said, this is the discovery phase of a civil suit, and they have a right under law to discover. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #13
Having read the court order, it's actually pretty limited. Chevron requested info on 30 accounts msanthrope Jul 2013 #6
I am with you but it didn't help India try the head of Union Carbide who was responsible for 1000s byeya Jul 2013 #14
At somepoine someone must try. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #23
Steve Donziger's case is falling apart. No wonder Evo is pissed. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #3
Holy crap. It's not just the government. dkf Jul 2013 #4
Well, here, you have Chevron, and Burford Capital/Patton Boggs. This is big money, fighting msanthrope Jul 2013 #15
Why do you call Ecuador "stupid" for defending its environment? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #18
Because Ecuador made several fatal errors in its litigation of the case, and now Chevron is msanthrope Jul 2013 #21
Going to get every update on their computers? Downwinder Jul 2013 #8
Wonder what they plan to discover???? It was either an environmental disaster or it was not angstlessk Jul 2013 #16
DVD: Crude – The Real Price of Oil proverbialwisdom Jul 2013 #17
I have seen video and stills of the horrible mess the oil operation created, ruining the byeya Jul 2013 #19
Ah--the production of that video is an integral part of the RICO case. msanthrope Jul 2013 #22
Could see how this could expand and be a crazy big problem glinda Jul 2013 #20
Maybe they will hire Blackwater to assasinate opposer activists. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #25
They don't need to. They stand an excellent chance of winning their RICO case, and litigating msanthrope Jul 2013 #26
Outrageous! n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #27
I have seen the enemy. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #28
 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
1. There are a hope...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jul 2013

that I would live to the day that Chevron empire would experience the historic colossal collapse since Roman empire! I'd give myself 60 years to go in my life.

 

BehindTheCurtain76

(112 posts)
24. Blackmail
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jul 2013

I'll bet you there is a good chance that this corporately owned corrupted judge is blackmailed based on NSA surveillance...exNSA whistleblower Russ Tice said the majority of the surveillance he was asked to conduct for NSA was on US Federal judges in order to gain leverage on them for the wealth 1% elite. Egypt could easily be the USA...you think our armed forces wouldn't kill 50 people if millions stormed the bastille?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. This seems to be carrying discovery phase too far.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jul 2013

One wonders if they would limit their actions to the court.

My personal sense that Privacy is obsolete continues.

That Ecuador Court should have demanded the company be broken up, it officers be imprisoned, and it's investors be taken to court for damages.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
5. seems to be the definition of a "fishing expedition"
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:15 PM
Jul 2013

and i doubt they'll be finding any monsters while they trample the 4th amendment


Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
11. Private corporations are not constrained by the 1st or 4th amendments.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jul 2013

unless the individuals in the U.S. have been declared a protected class. The government is supposed to be constrained by them.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
13. As I said, this is the discovery phase of a civil suit, and they have a right under law to discover.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:28 PM
Jul 2013

My concern is what they do with this information.

Read msanthrope's reply #6. It is enlightening.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
6. Having read the court order, it's actually pretty limited. Chevron requested info on 30 accounts
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jul 2013

and no one representing those accounts was able to claim privilege. Heck--no one representing those accounts showed up.

Basicially, Chevron subpoenaed sock puppets.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
14. I am with you but it didn't help India try the head of Union Carbide who was responsible for 1000s
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jul 2013

of deaths at Bhopal. The USA shielded the perp.
Again, the officers and investors should be at the bar of justice for what they have done in Ecuador - It's horrible.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. Well, here, you have Chevron, and Burford Capital/Patton Boggs. This is big money, fighting
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jul 2013

each other. It's like snakes in a bag--the only government stupid enough to get involved in this was Ecuador.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
21. Because Ecuador made several fatal errors in its litigation of the case, and now Chevron is
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jul 2013

poised to not just win--but make new law on the basis of the litigation pending as a direct result of legal bad faith on the part of Ecuador and the LAPs.

Bribing a judge and threatening him to win your case will bite you on the ass every single time.

I suggest you read the first 26 pages of this particular memo resulting from the current RICO case--it's a pretty good summary of the fraud committed by the Plaintiffs and Ecuador.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132521545/Chevron-Ecuador-Judge-Lewis-Kaplan-s-Decision-On-Patton-Boggs-Subpoena-In-Donziger-Case-Zennie-Abraham

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. Wonder what they plan to discover???? It was either an environmental disaster or it was not
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jul 2013

I am sure the emails will be more against Chevron than for them?

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
19. I have seen video and stills of the horrible mess the oil operation created, ruining the
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:13 PM
Jul 2013

lives and livelihood of many people and the habitats for untold numbers of animals and plants.

There is no dungeon bleak enough for those who did this.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
20. Could see how this could expand and be a crazy big problem
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jul 2013

for even bloggers in the future. Yikes. We are in strange times for sure.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
26. They don't need to. They stand an excellent chance of winning their RICO case, and litigating
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jul 2013

the opposition into the ground.

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