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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:20 AM Jul 2013

Cuba calls weapons on North Korean ship 'obsolete'

Source: Associated Press

PANAMA CITY (AP) -- Cuba said military equipment found buried under sacks of sugar on a North Korean ship seized as it tried to cross the Panama Canal was obsolete weaponry from the mid-20th century that it had sent to be repaired.

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Martinelli tweeted a photo showing a green tube that appears to be a horizontal antenna for the SNR-75 "Fan Song" radar, which is used to guide missiles fired by the SA-2 air-defense system found in former Warsaw Pact and Soviet-allied nations, said Neil Ashdown, an analyst for IHS Jane's Intelligence.

"It is possible that this could be being sent to North Korea to update its high-altitude air-defense capabilities," Ashdown said. Jane's also said the equipment could be headed to North Korea to be upgraded.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_PANAMA_SHIP_SEIZED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-07-17-02-01-50



A Cuban foreign ministry statement said Cuba reaffirmed its commitment to "peace, disarmament, including nuclear disarmament, and respect for international law".

It said the vessel was carrying 240 tonnes of obsolete defensive weapons - two anti-aircraft missile complexes, nine missiles in parts and spares, two MiG-21bis fighter planes and 15 MiG engines.

The Cuban statement said they were all made in the mid-20th Century and were to be repaired and returned to Cuba.

"The agreements subscribed by Cuba in this field are supported by the need to maintain our defensive capacity in order to preserve national sovereignty," the statement went on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23339020
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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
1. Funny that it was being hid
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:15 AM
Jul 2013

There are a few countries in the world who have no problem aiding North Korea.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. Wasn't in plain site
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:26 AM
Jul 2013

but if you were going to ship machinery heavy in aggregate weight would put it on top of the sugar ?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. Which is where it would be if you loaded the heavy stuff first...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:12 AM
Jul 2013

If one likes to be top heavy, a boat isn't the place to be.

Granted, I would not load sugar on top of an aircraft, but it may have been palletized parts. If they stuff is stackable the heavy stuff goes on the bottom, followed by the lighter stuff.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
3. One man's junk is another's treasure....
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:06 AM
Jul 2013

Mig 21bis are still in service aircraft for many nations. Russia commonly does the upgrades for them.

dembotoz

(16,835 posts)
5. if i buy a different used car it would be considered obsolete by the manufacturer but it would be
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:49 AM
Jul 2013

brandy new to me

dookers

(61 posts)
6. It may be obsolete
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:53 AM
Jul 2013

But those obsolete equipment are still current service equipment to North Korea. They really need those Mig parts to keep their aircraft running.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
7. You know your military is lame when even Cuba thinks your weapons are obsolete.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:56 AM
Jul 2013

Sure, the aircraft of the Cuban Air Force may be dated. But at least the Cuban Army has more state of the art Russian equipment.

yesphan

(1,588 posts)
13. Obsolete or not,
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jul 2013

the intent of the weapons is to kill. If I take a round to the skull from an 18th century musket, I'm going to die. same as if
I take one from an AK-74.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
16. Old AA systems still trigger radar warnings
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jul 2013

whuch may cause a diversion of a sortie into a more modern ring of fire.

How many IED's were made from old shells?

How much equipment did the Vietnamese discard?

Only in America do we need shiny new weapons systems.

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