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Judi Lynn

(160,630 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:34 PM Jul 2013

Wis. man, 76, guilty in fatal shooting of teen

Source: Associated Press

Wis. man, 76, guilty in fatal shooting of teen
By DINESH RAMDE, Associated Press | July 17, 2013 | Updated: July 17, 2013 1:59pm

MILWAUKEE (AP) — A 76-year-old Milwaukee man was found guilty Wednesday of fatally shooting his 13-year-old neighbor whom he suspected had broken into his home and stealing weapons. The trial now shifts into a second phase in which the defense will try to prove the defendant was mentally ill at the time of the shooting.

A jury convicted John Henry Spooner of first-degree intentional homicide in the killing of Darius Simmons in May 2012. Surveillance video taken from Spooner's own security cameras showed him confronting the teen that morning, pointing a gun at him from about 6 feet away and shooting him in the chest.

Spooner had entered two pleas to the homicide charge: not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. That set up the trial to be conducted in two phases: one to determine whether he was guilty of the homicide, and if so, a second to determine his mental competence at the time.

Spooner's defense attorney, Franklyn Gimbel, has said he has an expert who will testify that Spooner was suffering from mental disease at the time of the shooting that prevented him from knowing right from wrong.

Gimbel conceded from the outset that his client shot Darius. However, he argued that Spooner did not intend for the gunshot to be fatal.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Wis-man-76-guilty-in-fatal-shooting-of-teen-4669684.php?cmpid=usw

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Wis. man, 76, guilty in fatal shooting of teen (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2013 OP
If only Mr. Spooner had the blessing of the NRA and right-wing noise machine... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #1
I suspect that committing murder in front of a security camera hack89 Jul 2013 #2
True, but stranger things have happened Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #9
No, if only there was a gun tree in the yard. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Jul 2013 #3
shit mtasselin Jul 2013 #4
Yes we do. EC Jul 2013 #10
"did not intend for the gunshot to be fatal" reflection Jul 2013 #5
Yeah. Sure. tblue Jul 2013 #20
He just thought it would leave a dent. Myrina Jul 2013 #27
"prevented him from knowing right from wrong" he was able to understand that stealing from him was leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #6
"These assholes always get away" NoQuarter Jul 2013 #16
Not this time! tblue Jul 2013 #21
Nice to see a jury get one of these cases right for a change. bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #7
It's Wisconsin SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #14
lol. n/t. okieinpain Jul 2013 #15
The first thing I thought of when I read the verdict: displacedtexan Jul 2013 #19
Wisconsin? philosslayer Jul 2013 #23
Good. EC Jul 2013 #8
Spooner didn't intend for th shot to be fatal, so sayith his lawyer. I guess Spooner is not as lumpy Jul 2013 #11
excellent noiretextatique Jul 2013 #12
I talked to a guy I know who lives in that neighborhood. Archae Jul 2013 #13
sounds like HE was the one causing trouble. ejpoeta Jul 2013 #26
what if there didn't happen to be video of the shooting? Enrique Jul 2013 #17
If you mean like what happened with Trayvon... SunSeeker Jul 2013 #18
This case was tried in Milwaukee County dragonlady Jul 2013 #25
Well, exactly, he might have gotten off. The video was instrumental. nt Nay Jul 2013 #22
No he was never gonna walk away from this. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #24
The man confessed at the scene NickB79 Jul 2013 #29
That degree of racism IS a mental defect, a form of insanity--but tblue37 Jul 2013 #28

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. If only Mr. Spooner had the blessing of the NRA and right-wing noise machine...
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jul 2013

He might be free about now...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. True, but stranger things have happened
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:05 PM
Jul 2013

plenty of people committing crimes on camera have gotten off...

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
6. "prevented him from knowing right from wrong" he was able to understand that stealing from him was
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jul 2013

wrong and not right so this must be a selective sort of "mental disease" -

he argued that Spooner did not intend for the gunshot to be fatal. no he just pointed a gun a loaded gun and some un-armed kids chest and shot and thought what the bullet wouldnt leave his gun?

these assholes always get away

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
14. It's Wisconsin
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jul 2013

So long as it's not a bunch of Idiots in Florida deciding things, the system sometimes works.

If you want to fuck something up, a presidential election, a trial for the murder of a young woman's 2 year old, or the killing of an innocent teenager, allow Florida to settle the matter.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
19. The first thing I thought of when I read the verdict:
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

New Wisconsin motto: Hey, at least we're not Florida!

Sorry, wonderful Dems of Florida. I love you!

EC

(12,287 posts)
8. Good.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:03 PM
Jul 2013

This is one of the crazy old men that the NRA thinks should have guns. From what was in the local paper he has a collection of guns and accused this kid of stealing some of his guns. Any black boy would have worked for him...too bad this one was a neighbor.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
11. Spooner didn't intend for th shot to be fatal, so sayith his lawyer. I guess Spooner is not as
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jul 2013

nuts as they claim if Spooner was sane enough to not intend for the shot to be fatal.
Lawyers !!!

Archae

(46,350 posts)
13. I talked to a guy I know who lives in that neighborhood.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jul 2013

Spooner is a very cranky old man, constantly accusing people at random of stealing his stuff.

He's also one of the "old time" racists, trying to keep "those coloreds" out of *HIS* neighborhood since "coloreds only cause trouble."

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
17. what if there didn't happen to be video of the shooting?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jul 2013

what if it came down to the white man's word against the black mother?

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
24. No he was never gonna walk away from this.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 12:48 AM
Jul 2013

He will spend the short time left incarcerated. In prison or a hospital.

NickB79

(19,273 posts)
29. The man confessed at the scene
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

According to the police, he admitted to shooting the teen in a defiant manner, something along the lines of "yeah, I shot him!".

So I doubt he would have gotten off even without a camera. The camera just made it a slam-dunk conviction.

tblue37

(65,489 posts)
28. That degree of racism IS a mental defect, a form of insanity--but
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jul 2013

NOT one that should remain unpunished when it leads to such crimes as this man committed!

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