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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:51 AM Jul 2013

Rig that hit Asiana crash victim didn't have heat sensor installed

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

San Francisco airport officials had purchased heat sensing equipment that experts say may have prevented a 16-year-old Asiana Airlines victim from being hit by a fire rig, but the infrared technology to detect and map obstacles was not acquired for the rig that ran over the girl.

Ye Meng Yuan, a student from China, was covered with fire retardant foam when she was hit by at least one of the airport's rigs shortly after the plane crashed on landing on July 6. On Friday, the San Mateo county coroner said Ye was alive when she was hit by the rig.

The two-axle truck is believed to have run her over as it moved to get a better position to spray foam on the fire, police investigators have said. The older-model engine - No. 37 - did not have infrared forward-looking imaging technology now required by federal law, fire officials acknowledge. Other airport rigs are equipped with the technology.

The system measures heat given off from objects on the ground as well hot spots left in burning debris. The equipment is designed to detect objects that are otherwise invisible in fog, smoke and debris. It is especially vital on giant airport rigs, which are difficult to see around because of their size.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Rig-that-hit-Asiana-crash-victim-didn-t-have-heat-4678450.php

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Rig that hit Asiana crash victim didn't have heat sensor installed (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2013 OP
pretty sure rig isn't driverless cvoogt Jul 2013 #1
The girl was covered with foam csziggy Jul 2013 #2
I was wondering Mz Pip Jul 2013 #5
Have you ever driven a LARGE VEHICLE?? You just can not see what it is running over happyslug Jul 2013 #6
I'm not criticizing the driver Mz Pip Jul 2013 #8
I couldn't find any of the early shots of the crash csziggy Jul 2013 #7
???? heaven05 Jul 2013 #3
Who made that call tblue Jul 2013 #4

cvoogt

(949 posts)
1. pretty sure rig isn't driverless
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jul 2013

so how about the driver's or drivers' actions / lack of situational awareness?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
2. The girl was covered with foam
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:27 AM
Jul 2013

From the OP: "Ye Meng Yuan, a student from China, was covered with fire retardant foam"

Early photos and video of the crash site show that there was a lot of foam around the aircraft and it appears to be feet deep. If the girl were unconscious, lying in the foam, visual sighting would be impossible. That is why rigs are being fitted with heat sensors.

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
5. I was wondering
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:52 PM
Jul 2013

how someone could have missed seeing her. It was broad daylight, no fog or visibility problems.

Such a horrible tragedy.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
6. Have you ever driven a LARGE VEHICLE?? You just can not see what it is running over
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jul 2013

I have driven large vehicles, and to make a long story short, it is almost impossible to see anything more then the board area, i.e. no way you can see as much as a person in a car. The problem is the vehicle are that massive. This is why in most non-emergency situation you try to get some people on the ground to guide the driver where he is suppose to go. Given that job of these trucks, I am NOT surprised of the Federal Requirement to have heat detectors, it may be the only way for the driver to detect a person around the truck (Other then having people on the ground as the truck moves into position).

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
7. I couldn't find any of the early shots of the crash
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

But at least one of the videos I saw showed the plane covered with foam and people walking around it. The foam had to be 2-4 feet deep in spots and could easily have covered a person lying or sitting on the ground. In later shots showing the burned out plane, the foam had either dried up or had been hosed down - those are the shots most often used since they gave a better picture of the carcass of the plane. But they are deceptive since they do not show the amount of foam that had been sprayed over the crash scene.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. ????
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jul 2013

I never understood, how a spotter on truck didn't see a body, probably strapped in a seat on the runway. Maybe there is just too much chaos to expect that in a situation like this.

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