and then even bothered to write a reply.

Ok, I do care about this news. It annoys the hell out of me that this is news (I consider the ongoing death of our planet to be newsworthy). I hope I can annoy the hell out of those with infantile obsessions over this entrenched family of elitists.

is hardly the same as an infantile obsession over this family of elitists.

It's an announcement. Care or don't care, that's your choice.

In fact, Ill double down on ridiculing those that do care. Thanks.

ok , keep laughing. noman . I feel sorry for you and your sour attitude . Myself , I feel happy that Kate ad Wills have a healthy baby . That IS worth celebrating , as is the birth of any healthy child .

When do you find time to work?

right? At least I hope so, if not, I'm sorry for you!

Its terrible boring but at least its mine and I can experience it.

Look, I consider a nice long night stroll more interesting than this. More important for my human experience than knowing about this. In fact, Ill take one tonight.

I hope the same for you too!

not the sour puss you are...

Very very distant, but I find it as mildly interesting as a birth in any extremely prominent family.

Hell, most births are a bore unless its your own or your grandkids. Let's get over it already folks. We have 8 billion people on this dying planet. A child coming through the birth canal isn't exactly a new or novel experience. It isn't exactly something we need more of. It isn't exactly something to celebrate when you don't even know the parents. For the love of a God that doesn't exist....8 billion fuckn people. We've done this all before. It happens every day in a hospital near you!

come to do. In the US we don't get to watch our heads of state grow up - we always have to look back and glean what we can from records that remain.

You mean, how many parades they may wave in, to onlookers who only care because of what vaginal canal this person came out of?

Basically, the pointless fascination comes from this moment forward and starts now. Their importance is only what other humans grant it, so it only matters what they may do if we decide now that it is important. Such a decision is only reasonable on our end if we have given up our ability to critical think already.

Hope it makes you happy.

I do "hate" that while our earth burns and dies, mindless masses of people care of trivial matters that have no real bearing on their lives, their survival, the wellness of their community or their posterity (who have hell to face in the next 50 years).

stopped growing?

People get so uncomfortable when you point out their mindless fascination with the royals.

the birth of a healthy baby, beautiful weddings, family reunions, holidays, reading a good book, watching a favorite program or a great movie, etc.

There is not much I can do about the world situation but thank goodness I do not dwell in darkness like you do..you must have one hell of a miserable life!

I celebrate the little things in MY life, and by that measure, its not miserable at all. I don't have to celebrate a fantasy life of fantasy friends and their fantasy babies. Life is all around us, not on a TV or in a cell phone or on an eletronic device. This is a distraction as well, as life beats outside our windows

Not many Americans are aware of that. We need people like that in the world.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1663317_1663319_1669898,00.html There are many, many more articles about his contributions and appreciation of the earth.

Perhaps this new little one will accomplish great things. Damning any baby before he has to learn of all the hate in the world is ridiculous.

So any measures in the past, full or half, can now be collectively deemed "symbolic". Our arbitrary bar at +2C will be exceeded and billions will die. What one man may or may not have done is not important, though it is more worthy of mention than another baby to add to our 8 billion non-unique copies of inept genetic material. Our babies' babies will starve and die. Our babies' babies will witness social chaos, injustice and travesty as a result of nations falling apart at the seems. Our babies' babies will be caught between economic breakdown, crime, famine and drought in a combination that will be fatal and entirely depressing.

But how many really give a fuck about our babies' babies when we can have climaxes over today's royal baby born on TV to two people we all have never met and who will never so much as impart an ounce of benefit into our lives in reality?

If all we are looking for is a smile and a giggle (and damn a damned world in reality), then we can find such a giggle in a pill and drink our sorrow away. For anyone who thinks that is a terrible non-solution to what lies ahead, I posit that giggling at the useless wedding and baby fodder is an equivilent non-solution to pummeling our brains with intoxicants that induce a blissful stupor. There is a real world out there, and it doesn't wear a fascinator. There are real experiences to be had that will immensely benefit our lives. And there is a real threat on a horizon that a fake giggle won't fix (but community action can help you and your babies' babies find resilience and safety).

Its all too easy to care about the pretty fake fantasy babies our fantasy people in their fantasy worlds bring to us. But we have real babies to look after due to real problems that are being ignored by this bullshit

With the upbringing he is going to have,a criminal more likely than not.

abject poverty and misery AND be gracious about this baby's safe delivery to parents who want and love him.

I celebrate the birth of wanted children just as I care about those born unwanted. I don't think they need to compete with each other. They are babies.

I am also glad this child was safely delivered to his mother and she is fine. Yes, too many women suffer and die in childbirth all over the world, but that doesn't mean I care less about Kate or any other woman who safely delivers.

If you want to expend energy on making the world a better place for babies, why not search around for a charity where you can make a difference in a child's life? I have personally favored and given to Save the Children in the past. I think they do excellent work. How about it?

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We could encourage a gift to charities that help indigent babies and their mothers in the name of the recent royal baby!

I'm up for that!

What a great birthday present for the lil bugger!

I'm going to do some research and see if I can find some worthy ones.

I think if they really care, they will!

in the name of the recent royal baby

AND about maternal health. Both are interrelated and equally important.

Or, "A reminder at the birth of the royal baby." People are thinking about the news and perhaps this will stir them into action. I'm sure most here have given to a national or a local organization that benefits women and children in some way. It's just a "hook" to get their attention and give again.

Sorry, I spent my professional life raising money for worthy causes. My last gig before retiring in 2004 was with Planned Parenthood of CT. But I'm not advocating for one particular organization here...

Maybe in "remembrance that all humans deserve dignity and care" but I'm not about to hop on your royal trolly.

When are we all going to plant a tree in celebration that climate change will royally starve billions of babies by 2050? Ill also line up behind that one. In the meantime, this non-event doesn't seem like much to spur action

A lot of people are complaining that this baby is getting too much attention when other children are dying of starvation and disease.

No one is telling you it has to be in the name of the royal baby. This is for everyone on both sides of this stupid argument.

No vaginal canal is more sacred to slide out of than another. Though, we may not agree that no canal sliding is more newsworthy than another.

I will leave it at that.

The Birthing Project USA - also promotes education and raises funds for birthing kits sent to africa & 3rd world communities

http://www.birthingprojectusa.org/intro.html


the founder, Kathryn Hall-Trujillo began this project for mentoring moms hoping it would make a difference in the number of healthy born babies...many additional, successful projects have resulted across the country including a young dad mentoring project.

...why don't you post a thread with the suggestion and ask people to post the charities they think are worthy?

I just did a Google search and this could take hours.

and she's "hands-on", not just a figurehead.

http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/about-us/people/president-princess-anne

I had a bet with my daughter on the gender of this kid and I won. Also, my husband is British but he doesn't care at all.

It's one day in effing time, NOM. "Let It Be."

...is that our corporate media overlords are going to feel that we have to hear all about this kid for the next 50 years. We're supposed to be Americans-WE DON'T DO ROYALTY REMEMBER?!?!

We were are all kookoo for the Kennedy babies too

There is something seriously wrong with people.

Television will be shit for the rest of the evening

that he was already plotting to kill his grandfather and father so he could seize power.

What if they are unhappy so many people are ecstatic and preoccupied about it? Then that straw man just doesn't burn so well

Sad, really.

To each their own.

I guess we all need our form of circus. The preoccupation with British "royals" is fascinating to me.

well maybe not powerful, or as Mel Brooks said, "it's good to be King"

Or flying carpets, or the lady of the lake, or Gremlins, or Wood Nymphs, or Fire Breathing
Dragons, or Leprechauns ... it is all made up hogwash.

I was hoping for Charlie Brown or Woodstock.

That way we can look forward to being ruled over by King Kong!

Seems Kate favors GoT and William wants to go with LoTR.

I would love that ... to the extent that I care one whit about the whole thing, which is to say ... not much.

Congrats!

Why do so many people seem to care about a monarchy? Fuck 'em.

I feel bad for the kid. Not his fault he got born into that shit.

I'm just not slack-jawed and drooling over crap like this.

How many others worldwide, with say no insurance, food or clean running water, struggled through a birth today?

I am so sick of hearing about the royal baby when there are so many other mothers in poverty.

I'm happy for them!

A future king. Son of a future king. Grandson of a future king.

But it were a girl, THAT baby would have been a future queen - whether she eventually had a little brother or not.

This is nice. I think we should just pause and catch our breath for a moment, and smile. The rest of the news has been so damn grim lately.

This is NICE, dammit!

And they're cheering!

And this is a bad thing?

Cripes! With all the doom and gloom these days, it's nice to just pause and appreciate some good news for a change.

I thought it would be a girl.

Each, just as newsworthy.

Though, not so much for the lucky fellow in the OP.

You wouldn't know it from BBC News 24, but there are other things going on in the world besides some posh bird dropping a sprog.

.....Are we now allowed to call Kate Middleton a MILF?

Broken. Save the meanness for Day Two. This child, like all children, deserves to be welcomed.

Why would I welcome this one? I don't even hear when babies are born in the local hospital. Happens all the time you know.

8 billion people are alive today that slid out of a birth canal at one point. How many of them got welcomed?

And because I like people. Yes, there are too many and yes we are making all kinds of crazy mistakes but we are indeed miraculous in our variety, our potential, our ability to love and hate and have a good online argument. I'd have welcomed you and yours, and I think the world just works better if we let the bad feelings wait until they're deserved. Even the ones I don't know about I enjoy imagining, and even the ones whose arrival is in the midst of pain and strife I respect.

Too many people on a finite planet. Still, I am happy for Kate and William. He's seen some sorrow and this must be a happy day for him.

(talk about a "welfare queen"! Sheesh!!)

Gee. I wonder why.

Congrats, Prince and Princess.

Because a King Arthur would be cool.

Arthur is a cool name anyway.

Arthur Rubinstein, Art Garfunkel.

North? Ace? Braxlee? Zebulon? Jaydien? Draven? Blayde?

That would ruffle some feathers!

and the boy ended up dead within 6 months of marriage and his brother became king.





That king was Henry VIII Tudor.

barring early deaths, abdications, or removal of the royal family as the head of England. Spans of reigns may vary, but the longevity of the lineage should take the 3 males in succession to 2103.


Elizabeth, maybe another 3 years (2016, she'll be 90)

Prince Charles currently 64, takes over in 2016, he'll be 68, rules for 22 years until 2038, when he'll be 90.

Prince William, currently 31, takes over in 2038 at age 56, rules for 34 years until age 90 in 2072.

New Prince will take over in 2072 at age 59. Rules for 31 years until age 90 in the year 2103.

Queen Elizabeth....2016

Prince Charles....2016 to 2038

Prince William....2038 to 2072

Prince Baby......2072 to 2103

I'd have preferred it had been a girl.

It seems the purpose of the Prince of Wales (oldest heir to the throne) is supposed to drink, carouse and swive his way through life waiting for his mother the queen (or possibly dad) to pass on so that he will have a job.

Examples: Edward VII, son of Victoria.

Prince Charles, son of Elizabeth II. Unfortunately for him, Diana refused to keep quiet about his affairs on the side.

Like lawyer, doctor, hair dresser, construction worker, taxi driver, double decker bus driver, or open up a nail salon. Putting on your fancy robes and playing king and Queen is so childish. The other 21 hours of the day they spend sitting on their asses.

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However, the only one that really matters is the new prince. Even if the date of succession comes earlier or later for Charles and/or William, the new prince will rule as long as he able or alive which may very well take his reign into the next century.

with the new rule, well if they don't change it - let's hope there's no backsliding there! To date, there could only be a queen if she had no brother.

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The line of succession is set....Charles...William...Prince Baby. If Charles dies, William takes over, if William dies, his son takes over. The only way a "girl" could become queen before 2100, would be if William and Kate's next child is a female and the new baby boy dies or otherwise becomes incapacitated before he, himself has a child, which of course could be a female..

But then my whole lifetime, there has been a queen. But now it won't happen until the 21st century, unless new Prince Baby grows up to marry an American divorcee and even that may be OK by then!

QM Elizabeth lived to be over 100 and had her G&T every day.

I find British Royalty mildly interesting and mildly entertaining. There's something to be said for a tradition that has lasted 1000 years especially since the dangerous aspects thereof have been long removed.

Cheers, Will and Kate!

... before this particular pampered sproglet gets to be President-for-Life on a mega-salary, please excuse my lack of enthusiasm.



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That she should name it South. That way when the kids are fighting she and hubby Kanye can be like, "Hey North and South are fighting again, and it looks like North is winning.

Oops sorry wrong thread.

head of state. That's fine, but nevertheless you can make a strong case that the British have more social justice than we do. They have single payer health care, a lower infant mortality rate, a lower murder rate, a lower incarceration rate, they spend a lower percentage of GNP on defense, and by several measures a better educational system than we do. And they have an elected government that holds all political power. We have a president who is elected by the Electoral College who is both head of state and head of the government. As far as I'm concerned if they want to have a monarch that's their business.

even though they have an unelected ceremonial head of state, the average people of the country by and large have it better than we do with an elected head of state. So why all of the angst over having a monarch? That doesn't seem to stand in the way of their having more social justice than we do.

So why all of the angst over having a monarch

That doesn't seem to stand in the way of their having more social justice than we do

In fact, it's why Diana was so much more popular that the queen. She raised tons of money and worked for a better world for over 15 years. I would imagine that her children and grandchildren will continue her efforts in that arena. At least, I hope they do.

Much will be expected of him. May he choose wisely and in his best interests on what kind of life he wants to live.

posting the news. Personally, if I find a thread a waste of time, I don't respond to it. Why bother, let it sink for lack of interest. Your thread will likely live for days because of of the misplaced rage it stirs in a handful of haters!

Well done!

pushed on us day after day. Glad you posted!

What Ho, Prince Faygo!



It beats Gussie, Tuppy or Bingo by a lot.

Cheerio.

Merely passing through the princess' birth canal has entitled it to a lifetime of British taxpayer money and fawning from the press, including reporters in America.

Once again proving my time-tested old theory: People are stupid.