Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.

translate their opinion into action at the voting booth then we could see more and more pro life politicians elected. And we know what kind of mischief those politicians can be responsible for. So the results of this poll are troubling.

I would hate to see where we would be if the VRA and Civil Rights Acts were voted on by the general public.

Exceptions for rape, incest, health concerns of the mother and fetal anomalies were allowed at the *sole discretion* of the woman's physician. I believe this is the approach in most European countries.

should be ok with 20 weeks... this is a woman's issue and should be decided by individual women

Abortion is a woman's health issue, not a political football whose root purpose is to subjugate half the population in this country.
The only people that need to be involved are the women and their doctors. It is nobody else's business, let alone some bought off politician.

Get your snouts out of a woman's crotch.

If a woman needs an abortion, or in fact wants one later than 20 weeks, then that is the way it should be. No limits, full stop.

Are the women who need to make the decision for themselves.

...abortion would be allowed up to when the fetus graduates from college.

but yes. It should be a choice that it ultimately up to the pregnant woman, not a legislature, or the mob chanting slogans outside of the clinic.

I don't know when a fertilized egg becomes a person, and I don't believe anyone else knows either. So, it should be up to the individual conscience of the person who is pregnant.

And in some cases the Mob burning down the clinic

demagogue this issue.

we are allowing extremist fanatics to define the debate.

65% of all Americans opposed the radical new healthcare program for seniors called "MEDICARE". So, your point is..............?

Really, have we become of nation of polls of less than 1,000 people determining our daily outcome?

I hope not. 2012 polling was totally off the mark.

I think this reflects the success of the anti choice people in spreading misinformation - from the fetal pain nonsense to the balderdash but ubiquitous 18 day heartbeat billboards. we need some process to get sound information out. and we need to stop letting them frame the argument, for example everytime someone calls an embryo or fetus a "baby" we need to call them on it. turn it around "how can we trust any info from you if you do not even understand basic correct terms?"

So you poll a group of buffoons about something they have no idea about?
You want to counter the Right? Makes some catchy 24 week cloth-hanger memes.
Social Media is crushing them with same-sex equality.



See what I mean?

they are getting out way too much propaganda on this one and it is countered

What is the distance between the two airports in Moscow?

I think roe vs wade is good law and should remain in place.

"Under the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision abortions can be performed until the point when an individual doctor determines a fetus’s viability, which is generally defined as up to 24 weeks of gestation. After that point, the government can prohibit the procedure so long as it provides safeguards for the mother’s health and well-being."


I don't like the idea at all that any medical records between Doctor and patient are ever shared with the state. Except for contagious disease threats to the general population.

this country is heading... I feel nauseous...

and fuck the talk about rape, incest, mother's safety... if the argument is "life" then a life is a life no matter (but that is not my argument)

this is a woman's issue, an individual decision and no man need tell me or my daughters how to live our private lives...

... years ago, I aborted using herbs... are we headed to a place where I could have been imprisoned for that??

talk of limiting abortion makes me more than livid... I consider this very serious stuff

Most people (or law makers for that matter) don't even know what is meant by "20 weeks." Are we talking 20 weeks from last menstruation or are we talking 20 weeks from conception? I don't think it is actually possible to poll accurately on this question, because even doctors can't always determine when conception occurred.

I mean, if you're an evangelical who believes that life begins and acquires its own, unique, god-given soul the moment that conception occurs, then there's no point after conception that abortion won't be snuffing out what you perceive to be a human being. If, on the other hand, you're a rationalist, a 24 week old fetus is just as undeveloped and non viable ex vivo as a 20 week old fetus is. After a point, I suppose late term abortions create potential risks to the woman's health, but no one seems to be particularly concerned about that. So why is 20 weeks a magic number? Why not 19 weeks or 21 weeks or 30 weeks?

without risking a citation for indecent exposure.

Or is it 22? Please don't say 23.

and as such the public don't get any say in that issue anyway.

Genetic disorders can sometimes leave a baby with out a brain or a prognosis so poor that death is painful and imminent. Women need to mak their own informed decision, no let govt tell hem what they have to do.
Women should no be forced to have a baby they do not want to have.
It seems like a lot I men love discussing our vaginas and what we should do with them.
They're like pimps.

The fact of the matter is that women have the Constitutional right to an abortion before viability. Period.

Not here on DU, of course, but apparently so many others out there, as evidenced by this poll.

When you think about how to take the country back from the fascists, think about 1500 hate radio outlets and every last psychopath that works there.

only Republicans for this poll...

i.e. when a man impregnates a woman, she is entering her third week of pregnancy. Yes, pregnancy is measured NOT from the point the woman became pregnant but her last period, about two weeks before. I ran across this factoid when I attend a seminar on medical terms for lawyers. Thus in most people's mind 20 weeks is 20 weeks (or almost five months) since she became pregnant NOT just 18 weeks. When a woman is in her 24th week of pregnancy, she has been "with child" for only 22 weeks.

Thus what most people think as of 20 weeks of pregnancy a doctor would say 22 weeks. 24 weeks of pregnancy is just 22 weeks of being "With child". Most people do NOT think pregnancy starts two weeks BEFORE the woman gets pregnant, but that how the medical community and the Legal community uses those terms.

Don't matter what anyone thinks on it. It's law.

For the record.

What do the dodos answering the poll that ways know that I don't.

I wonder why support is slowly dwindling.

Check out this take on it: http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/10/09/briefs-in-support-arizonas-pre-viability-ban-show-evolution-legal-challenge-to-ro/

Roe v. Wade, whether people like it or not, was based on viability. Eventually this concept is going to be tested, the Fundies are just firing shots even though 20 weeks and 21 weeks are non-viable. 22 weeks are extremely rare.

it is becoming a quaint notion as people duke it out over whose values are the best ones that others should live by and both sides tends to favor controlling/punishing choices (although they vary reasons the core principle is the same).

so I should probably be skeptical of what I think.

Regardless of what your mom says we usually talk about these things.

are able to identify serious birth defects and many of those tests cannot be conducted before then. These would be defects that include having no brain. The 20 week laws would require women to give birth to babies that would die soon after birth.

The 20 week limit is BS. I'm afraid my mom would be one of those people who would have answered yes had she been polled. Even though she is a D she is against women's rights. Go figure! As long as we keep a D legislature and governor in Oregon we'll be fine though. The only other way would be if the corporate Supreme Court overturns it.

restrictions on the behavior of other people. They don't think they will be affected.

Wolf