Democrats partnering with Libertarians, the White House with "Conservative" Republicans.

Some sort of strange kumbaya moment.

I'll take Democrats + Libertarians over White House + Conservative Republicans over illegal wars and disrespect of the working class any day.

This has worked out well for me. The Democrats for whom I had any respect before, based on their principles, lined up with the Libertarians and the Constitution. The ones I had no respect for went running to cover for Chiquita's lawyer + constitutional illegalities + the despicable neoconservatives to scream about terror and how the sky will fall. The same battle lines were only reconfirmed at DU.

I'm not disturbed lol. People who stand for raping the constitution with secret courts and secret interpretations to amass little files on us deserve no respect, no matter what hyphenated letter they throw after their name. If you (they) can't respect the constitution, no wonder we find ourselves with all these illegal wars on our hands that deprive people of their human rights all over the world and squeeze American workers dry to pay for that. Kumbaya for $1000 please.

that the Congress is almost totally paralyzed these days,

and will get nothing of importance done as long as the House, Senate and White House are controlled by different Parties - and the Senate filibuster lives.

I'll correctly judge the people responsible to be traitors.

Constitution. But first, back to this week's vote in the House of Representatives as reported in Foreign Policy:

"The obituary of Rep. Justin Amash's amendment to claw back the sweeping powers of the National Security Agency has largely been written as a victory for the White House and NSA chief Keith Alexander, who lobbied the Hill aggressively in the days and hours ahead of Wednesday's shockingly close vote. But Hill sources say most of the credit for the amendment's defeat goes to someone else: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. It's an odd turn, considering that Pelosi has been, on many occasions, a vocal surveillance critic."

"Ahead of the razor-thin 205-217 vote, which would have severely limited the NSA's ability to collect data on Americans' telephone records if passed, Pelosi privately and aggressively lobbied wayward Democrats to torpedo the amendment, a Democratic committee aid with knowledge of the deliberations tells The Cable."

"Pelosi had meetings and made a plea to vote against the amendment and that had a much bigger effect on swing Democratic votes against the amendment than anything Alexander had to say," said the source, keeping in mind concerted White House efforts to influence Congress by Alexander and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. "Had Pelosi not been as forceful as she had been, it's unlikely there would've been more Democrats for the amendment."

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/07/25/how_nancy_pelosi_saved_the_nsa_surveillance_program


The US Constitution defines treason, it's Article III, Section 3:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

Yeah, sure. how will we know? After all, it's all super "secret," don't you know! And then there are a few items beyond the telephone -- emails, chats, IM and everything else. Instead of claiming to "stop the NSA," how about doing your duty to uphold the constitution, specifically the 4th Amendment. And none of this star chamber shit -- you can't be "transparent" when everything is proclaimed "a secret."

Sen. Ron Wyden On NSA Spying: It’s As Bad As Snowden Says

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/sen-ron-wyden-nsa-spying-its-bad-snowden-says

If it were not for Snowden, he could never have talked about this stuff - unless he wanted to be the one hiding out in Russia or facing 30 years to life IN A CAGE for Revealing that the Bill of Rights was History.

"One of the worst myths Democratic partisans love to tell themselves - and everyone else - is that the GOP refuses to support President Obama no matter what he does. Like its close cousin - the massively deceitful inside-DC grievance that the two parties refuse to cooperate on anything - it's hard to overstate how false this Democratic myth is. When it comes to foreign policy, war, assassinations, drones, surveillance, secrecy, and civil liberties, President Obama's most stalwart, enthusiastic defenders are often found among the most radical precincts of the Republican Party."


http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/07/25-2

How much fear is going to play in the final outcome. If the NSA has gathered information about all the politicians in Congress, then many Congresspeople are probably worried that if they oppose the agency some dirt about them may suddenly surface and their careers and cushy life be disrupted. Can we really discount this scenario?

Vote those out - as a hard-line litmus-test, and we should be able to take care of that problem.

When are you people going to figure out that you are being used by Wyden.
He is not a Democrat!!!!! He has found an easy issue to get (mostly) young
people to vote against the democrats. His main goal is to give our Medicare
to his constituents (the Health Insurance Companies). He is laughing all the
way to the bank. Wake up!!!