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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 02:58 PM Sep 2013

IT offshore outsourcers are top L-1 visa users, U.S. says

Source: Computerworld

The IEEE-USA is calling for reform of the L-1 visa program following release of a government report that identified IT offshore outsourcers as its major users.

In the recently released report, the Dept. of Homeland Security's Inspector General (IG) called some of L-1 visa program's rules vague and in need of improvement. With no changes, the program is at risk for fraud and abuse, the IG's report said.

... The largest users of the L-1 visa program are outsourcers like Tata Consultancy Services and Cognizant. From 2002 to 2011, Tata and Cognizant received 26,000 and nearly 20,000 petitions, respectively, making them the top users by far. The third largest user was IBM India operations, which received 5,722 L-1 petitions.

The IEEE-USA, a professional organizations for engineers, said use of the L-1 program by offshore firms is telling. "Outsourcers have come to dominate the L-1 visa program in exactly the same way that they dominate the H-1B," said Marc Apter, President of the IEEE-USA, in a statement.

Read more: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9242204/IT_offshore_outsourcers_are_top_L_1_visa_users_U.S._says

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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
1. No way!
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 03:05 PM
Sep 2013

But we can't do anything about it because that would make us a bunch of racist, xenophobic, protectionists. At least that's what I was told by other members of NeoLiberal-Underground last time I brought it up.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Don't worry. If we go to war in Syria (and Lebanon and Iran) all this work will go offshore, anyway.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 03:09 PM
Sep 2013

Immigration reform just seems sorta secondary at this point.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Tata!!! Now let me see, which potential 2016 Dem Candidate had a relationship with Tata?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 04:23 PM
Sep 2013

Oh, yeah, Hillary. Not only during Bill's administration, and after, but even while on duty as SOS.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/30/nation/na-buffalo30

and:



Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:24:09 GMT

Clinton meeting Tata, Ambanis on Saturday

Mumbai: India Inc honchos Ratan Tata, Mukesh Ambani and others are likely to explore measures to boost bilateral business ties during their brainstorming session over breakfast with US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton on .

Clinton is scheduled to arrive in the city tonight on an official visit to India during which high-level discussions are likely to promote bilateral co-operation in the $30 billion Indian civil nuclear power programme and the the $43 billion bilateral trade.

She will be flying-in from the Czech Republic capital, Prague.

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3131275

area51

(11,912 posts)
14. Yes, she's not called the Senator from Bombay for nothing.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:37 AM
Sep 2013

Let no one forget, she started out her political life as a republican.

SharonAnn

(13,776 posts)
4. Gee, that's a surprise? Those of us in IT have known this and H1-B visas were a problem
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 04:24 PM
Sep 2013

for many years. Our IT people can't find a job at decent pay but everything gets either off-shore or outsourced to non-citizens.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
7. I know of quite a few IT & engineering people who had to leave the US to get work
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 05:39 PM
Sep 2013

Germany, China, India ....

We hire in this country, but many of the large companies only hire H1-Bs. As far as I'm concerned, these two programs are mostly the product of lobbyists.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. The government needs to get out of the way and let them do business,
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:15 PM
Sep 2013

according to Micro$oft and Oracle...apparently ignoring tens of thousands of American workers isn't enough.

Here:


"Want to Move a Worker to the U.S.? Good Luck"

As director of Oracle’s (ORCL) U.S. immigration program, Denise Rahmani arranges work papers for foreign employees the company wants to bring to the U.S. Last year, she says, the federal government denied 38 percent of Oracle’s visa requests. “It used to be almost none of them got rejected,” Rahmani says. Today, “it feels like the roll of the dice every time.”

U.S. companies have griped for years about how hard it is to hire high-tech workers from abroad under the government’s H1-B visa program. Now, they’re upset with the Obama administration about the difficulty of getting visas for foreign workers already on their payrolls who are needed for key projects in the U.S. So intense is their frustration that Oracle, Microsoft (MSFT), Starwood Hotels (HOT), and some 50 other companies warned President Obama in a March letter that “American job growth and the U.S. economy are being harmed.”

At issue are the L1-B visas used for transferring workers with “specialized knowledge,” as defined by a 1970 federal immigration law. Getting these permits used to be routine: From 2003 through 2007, an average of about 8 percent of company requests were denied by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). In 2008 the rejection rate tripled. Last year it hit 27 percent.
STORY: H-1B Visas Hit the Cap, Sending Companies to Plan B

Corporations complain that Washington is inundating them with requests for more information about a foreign employee’s expertise and then making seemingly arbitrary decisions. Rahmani says the administration denied one Oracle worker’s request to extend his stay because he didn’t know enough about one type of software—even though he’d written its training manual. Immigration officials are “suggesting that the workers are interchangeable,” she says. “They don’t seem qualified to judge and assess what we deem as the right resource to do a job or deliver a project.”
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Linux may not be all that and a bag of chips, but at least it doesn't make Micro$oft any richer so they can dis-employ you, my neighbors...

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
13. Anything they
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 11:11 AM
Sep 2013

can't send overseas they want to bring people in to do for half what US workers used to make. While plenty of our workers are rif'd.

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