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Kennah

(14,266 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:16 PM Sep 2013

George Zimmerman won't be charged after alleged domestic incident

Source: CNN

No charges will be filed against George Zimmerman after an alleged altercation with his estranged wife and her father, Lake Mary, Florida, Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Monday.

"Shellie Zimmerman has declined prosecution (after consulting with her attorney)," Bracknell said.
...
After he was initially detained by officers, George Zimmerman was interviewed at the house by detectives, Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said.
...
George Zimmerman had a bodyguard in the truck with him when police arrived, Bracknell said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/



Maybe this is just part of the divorce playing, maybe not. But there is one helluva lotta smoke surrounding this guy post acquittal. People on trial who get acquitted for self defense generally shut the fuck up, chill the fuck out, and step the fuck out of the public spotlight.

Zimmerman is NOT going to have a Happy Ending, and unfortunately he's going to take someone else with him.
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George Zimmerman won't be charged after alleged domestic incident (Original Post) Kennah Sep 2013 OP
His day will come. It's just a matter of time. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2013 #1
Hopefully Richard D Sep 2013 #17
I agree brush Sep 2013 #32
The States Attorney will have the final word on if there will be charges or not. n/t Tx4obama Sep 2013 #2
Most likely already did... pipoman Sep 2013 #7
MSM needs Zimmerman to avoid offending the 1% . nt orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #3
WTF does that have to do with anything about this story?????? George II Sep 2013 #6
+1 7962 Sep 2013 #19
- 2 orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #54
Oh for God's sake. 7962 Sep 2013 #55
Also pertinent to the subject . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #56
Knowing every detail about a personal situation, CONSTANTLY orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #36
I happen to think domestic violence thucythucy Sep 2013 #43
Not when charges aren't filed , All-star Wrestling, like I told George II orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #52
So you're saying that the Koch Brothers, et. al., were behind Zimmerman punching.... George II Sep 2013 #44
No, you knowing what brand of underwear Assholes father in-law wears orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #51
The guy will never be able to pipoman Sep 2013 #4
You mean the guy who waited all of five minutes before doing a publicity photo-shoot at TrollBuster9090 Sep 2013 #34
OJ v2.0. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #5
It's getting so that a man can hardly kill a black child and threaten a woman with a gun anymore Orrex Sep 2013 #8
It probably wouldn't have made the news if he just used a gun, but since a knife was involved too Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #10
Tick tock tick tock blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #9
When you're friends with the police in Florida, you can get away with anything. Crowman1979 Sep 2013 #11
You Mean These Florida Police? DallasNE Sep 2013 #15
Then there's the TRUTH about that story.......... 7962 Sep 2013 #20
That Barely Changes Anything DallasNE Sep 2013 #30
Who in Florida's government keeps saving his ass? DJ13 Sep 2013 #12
Why ask the question? Joe Bacon Sep 2013 #31
Every incident with Zimmerman, post acquittal, is being carefully logged by wrongful death lawyers. Kennah Sep 2013 #13
I think her lawyer has much too much money to make defacto7 Sep 2013 #25
Someone Should Ask The 6 Jurors DallasNE Sep 2013 #14
Nailed it. CSStrowbridge Sep 2013 #16
In MOST states, when there's a domestic violence incident, regardless of the magnitude.... George II Sep 2013 #18
Bastard's got nine lives. Aristus Sep 2013 #21
Karma LittleGirl Sep 2013 #22
I'm beginning to believe that defacto7 Sep 2013 #23
Watch him getting away with this embolden him more. nt Incitatus Sep 2013 #26
9 lives Amerigo Vespucci Sep 2013 #24
Truth! ^^^ nt mimi85 Sep 2013 #27
O'Mara: "Well go on home, Zimmerman, I can't stand here all night protecting your shoe shine!" TrollBuster9090 Sep 2013 #35
Hey, George was absolutely correct Just Saying Sep 2013 #28
I read that there is security cameras around the home obama2terms Sep 2013 #29
I can see the wife making the wrong choice on filing charges, but I wonder what her dad's deal is yurbud Sep 2013 #33
He's probably just trying to protect his daughter. WhoWoodaKnew Sep 2013 #37
could be. Or not indirectly push her back into his arms yurbud Sep 2013 #46
Maybe Z threatened to use a gun crim son Sep 2013 #38
I think these two love the limelight. revolutionbrees Sep 2013 #39
So the fucker doesn't have two quarters to rub together, but he's got a bodyguard? bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #40
Consider the news source CNN that is incapable of even superficial reporting. gordianot Sep 2013 #41
The little turd gets off scot-free again. Arkana Sep 2013 #42
To summarize: RedCloud Sep 2013 #45
he does what they want to but are too cowardly and lazy to get off their scooters and do themselves yurbud Sep 2013 #49
I hope someone has asked the jurors in the Trayvon Martin trial if they will feel responsible if Z's yurbud Sep 2013 #47
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #57
his (and her) personalities = messy, loud, divorce. poor Inlaws, stuck in the middle. Sunlei Sep 2013 #48
If they're basing his innocence on her refusal to press charges, they aid and abett domestic abusers freshwest Sep 2013 #50
I think he would have been charged here even if the wife didn't press charges. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2013 #53
This might be another case of Florida does it different yurbud Sep 2013 #59
"fucking punks. These assholes always get away” Tom Ripley Sep 2013 #58

brush

(53,778 posts)
32. I agree
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:50 AM
Sep 2013

Chris Hayes had Joy Reid on talking about the latest incident. He play the tape of zimmy's wife's 911 called. She was scared to death and said that the killer threaten her and her father by indicating he had a gun. He grabbed her cell phone from her hand and smashed it as well. She kept telling her father to go back inside before they were shot.

You could hear the fear in her voice. This is the same Jeckel and Hyde character that confronted TM that night. His lawyers were able to hide that side of the killer in court but I think even his supporters are starting to realize this guy is a time bomb, who in fact, has careened from violent incident to incident in his life from his assault of a police officer to the domestic violence incident with an ex-girlfriend to the manhandling of a woman at a party he was working security for, and now this.

The other shoe will drop soon enough.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
7. Most likely already did...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:23 PM
Sep 2013

police don't announce no charges until after the decision has been made with prosecution. I've seen conversations between prosecutors and police in the middle of the night to determine if charges would be filed following an arrest..

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
36. Knowing every detail about a personal situation, CONSTANTLY
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:26 AM
Sep 2013

is a diversion from the things of CONSEQUENCE . That's the fuck .

thucythucy

(8,054 posts)
43. I happen to think domestic violence
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:39 AM
Sep 2013

IS a thing of consequence.

As is the unpunished murder of a black teenager.

The one points to and highlights the prevalence of abuse many women are forced to endure, the other highlighted the racism inherent in our criminal justice system.

Not to mention all the issues around "stand your ground" and the regulation (or lack thereof) of firearms in this society.

George II

(67,782 posts)
44. So you're saying that the Koch Brothers, et. al., were behind Zimmerman punching....
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:17 AM
Sep 2013

....his father-in-law to get attention away from these unspecified "things of CONSEQUENCE"??

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
51. No, you knowing what brand of underwear Assholes father in-law wears
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 05:52 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:27 PM - Edit history (2)

distracts from medias Duty to inform us about the specific things the Koch brothers do to fuck up the world, in the fascist sense . Why weren't any charges filed ? Attention !! Are they going to retry him for stalking a child ? Put down that ' National Inquirer ' and be free .

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. The guy will never be able to
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:20 PM
Sep 2013

cut a wet fart without making the news...he better find himself quickly and lay low for the rest of his life..

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
34. You mean the guy who waited all of five minutes before doing a publicity photo-shoot at
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:45 AM
Sep 2013
the f-ing GUN FACTORY that manufactured the gun he used to murder Trayvon Martin after being acquitted?

I don't think he plans on laying low. Just my opinion. I think he plans on milking this for everything he can get.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401627/George-Zimmermans-lawyer-chides-visiting-gun-factory.html

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
8. It's getting so that a man can hardly kill a black child and threaten a woman with a gun anymore
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:24 PM
Sep 2013

At least, not without generating a big brouhaha about it.


What's this country coming to?

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
10. It probably wouldn't have made the news if he just used a gun, but since a knife was involved too
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:29 PM
Sep 2013

that changed everything, knives can kill people.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
30. That Barely Changes Anything
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:34 AM
Sep 2013
'Oh my God,' that cop is going to let this horse s---t everywhere. So, I was upset about it. So, I stormed across the street and I was like, 'Officer, what are you going to do with all this horse poop?'


Those police officers were not about to bother to clean it up if they are anything like the Omaha police. Besides, this weakens the claim that she "volunteered" to do it. It was more like if I don't do it it won't get taken care of so this horse loving woman put up with the indignity of scooping the cops horse manure.

The first time I posted this link I commented that it was too bad the video didn't start several seconds earlier because important details could be missing. Still, even with this update the cops come off looking like a bunch of jerks because they allowed her to do it rather than cleaning it up themselves. And they did say something like "you missed some" as she was cleaning it up.

Joe Bacon

(5,165 posts)
31. Why ask the question?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:42 AM
Sep 2013

We know Daddy is making sure that his boy is going to get pass after pass no matter what he does!

Kennah

(14,266 posts)
13. Every incident with Zimmerman, post acquittal, is being carefully logged by wrongful death lawyers.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:36 PM
Sep 2013

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
25. I think her lawyer has much too much money to make
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:55 PM
Sep 2013

the longer zimbo stays in the business of gun waving. Prosecute now and it's too easy too quick. They need to get some death into the scene to up the ante.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
14. Someone Should Ask The 6 Jurors
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:45 PM
Sep 2013

What they think of their verdict in light of all of the drama surrounding George Zimmerman since his release. Any remorse? Three of them wanted to put him away but not as much as they wanted out of sequestration so they allowed him to walk.

It is a bitch being right on matters like this but given Zimmerman's background you could see this coming from miles away. And again he is not charged. Whatever happened to making terroristic threats that is so popular with law enforcement these days. Judge daddy must really be able to pull strings for George.

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
16. Nailed it.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:47 PM
Sep 2013

"Zimmerman is NOT going to have a Happy Ending, and unfortunately he's going to take someone else with him."

I agree 100% with this statement.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. In MOST states, when there's a domestic violence incident, regardless of the magnitude....
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:13 PM
Sep 2013

...the freaking perpetrator is taken off to jail for at lest a night to cool off.

But alas, we're talking about Florida..............

Aristus

(66,379 posts)
21. Bastard's got nine lives.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:22 PM
Sep 2013

I don't want to be the one standing around with a mop when his ninth life comes a cropper...

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
22. Karma
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:38 PM
Sep 2013

the guy is a loose cannon. I hope the jury members can sleep at night letting that criminal out.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
24. 9 lives
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:50 PM
Sep 2013

His luck can't go on forever.

O'Mara can talk all day about Zimmerman's "living expenses," but I don't believe for one second he spent all of the money taken in by his "official Website"...even in legal fees. He siphoned off SOME kind of stash and my guess is that his wife wants her cut. She lied about how much money they had while he was awaiting trial, so who the hell would believe either of them now? "Declining prosecution" measn getting her cut and getting rid of him. No one will bother her once she steps out of his orbit.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
29. I read that there is security cameras around the home
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:39 PM
Sep 2013

And that there is a domestic violence investigation taking place, and the cops have the video. If it proves that he did these things the police could then press charges and she would not have to really even lift a finger ( no testifying is one example of that). If she did in fact press charges and they could prove he did those things, she would have to go through a whole ordeal. That's probably why she didn't press charges she waiting for the cops to find enough evidence to do it themselves. But it's hard to tell, every news source seems to be saying different things now. Either way he's an idiot, at least O.J. waited a few years before his next screw up, this guy hasn't lasted 2 damn months!

crim son

(27,464 posts)
38. Maybe Z threatened to use a gun
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:14 AM
Sep 2013

and his wife took him seriously - as would I - even though he wasn't actually pointing it at her. My ex occasionally got rough and it was terrifying, no gun required. In addition, Z allegedly punched his FIL in the face during this incident. That would lend credence to any threats he might make.

The man's a piece of garbage, no question about it.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
41. Consider the news source CNN that is incapable of even superficial reporting.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:42 AM
Sep 2013

Domestic disputes of this nature do not go away. George Zimmerman will ride again.

RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
45. To summarize:
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:24 AM
Sep 2013

Gets a free punch on undercover cops.
Fiancee puts out a restraining order on him.
Breaks up with wife night before he murders.
Says lots of bad words, then kills the next day.
Cowardly refuses to take stand.
Gets caught speeding in Texas.
Makes a gun show photo.
Gets caught speeding in Florida.
Punches elderly man in face.
Threatens estranged wife with gun.

And gets away with it all.

(Little wonder he is the darling boy of the GOP pundits.)

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
49. he does what they want to but are too cowardly and lazy to get off their scooters and do themselves
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:18 PM
Sep 2013

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
47. I hope someone has asked the jurors in the Trayvon Martin trial if they will feel responsible if Z's
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:43 AM
Sep 2013

wife is killed.

And the judge, and the stumblefuck prosecutor.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
48. his (and her) personalities = messy, loud, divorce. poor Inlaws, stuck in the middle.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:48 AM
Sep 2013

could be dangerous too, if either of them rages /w weapon. Good thing there are NO kids.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
50. If they're basing his innocence on her refusal to press charges, they aid and abett domestic abusers
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:03 PM
Sep 2013

The most dangerous time for a woman is when she makes a stand to divorce an abuser. That is when it hits home and the abuser, fearing loss of control or money, face, whatever, is more likely to kill her.

Some states expect the victim to risk their life by pushing the issue with someone who has proven to be violent, vindictive and out of control. At one time that was a common practice and then laws in some states changed, as such things were seen as an assault on public order and not just the victim.

But now some states have taken the road back to the past due to the defunding of services and lack of respect for women and children, seeing their lives and rights less than that of men and protecting 'the sanctity of marriage and the family' where many were done to death. So much so, that some states have dropped domestic violence laws from the books, and not replaced them, either, with what should be done, more harsh treatment as one would a stranger assault. With lack of legal action, society has deteriorated.

A great step backwards. I've lived in states with both systems of justice, and the one where it's considered a crime against public order also respect the rights of women, children, gays, minorties, workers, etc. The others do not.

I don't feel this outcome says anything about the allegations or what we heard on the 911 call. It's the lack of authority to charge in these cases. They have no children, but are still financially entangled and Z has, if reports are true, income of $30K a month from donations.

If Florida is a community property state, she has a right to assets up to a point, which is a motive for him to intimidate her. The interview she made that was unfavorable to him, may have decreased his income.

He feels he deserves the noney for the fallout from killing Trayvon. Some have fallen into the camp of 'he just needed killing' because he was black and resisted being molested by this creepy guy. I'd never let this character, with that look in his eyes and his demeanour, even before this, get anywhere near me. Add stalking a person down the street, and hell, no.

That anyone finds this thug heroic is frightening. For just a moment, I wondered why the father didn't file charges, but he may also feel in danger. Then again, this may just be two sleasy characters getting more airtime and we may be falling for their latest drama staged for the public. Z's income in donations may go up from this because fringe men's rights groups may feel he is being oppressed.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
53. I think he would have been charged here even if the wife didn't press charges.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 05:58 PM
Sep 2013

I think we may have laws in place to charge for domestic abuse even if the abusee doesn't want to press charges.

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