Lake Mary police now calling into question several statements Shellie Zimmerman made to 911
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Source: ABC NEws (local)
LAKE MARY, Fla - Lake Mary Police are now questioning the validity of several statements Shellie Zimmerman made when she told 911 dispatchers her estranged husband, George Zimmerman, threatened her and her father at gunpoint Monday afternoon.
"We did not find a gun, did not locate a weapon," said Zach Hudson, public information officer with the Lake Mary Police Department. "Nobody ever saw a gun. A gun is not part of this story."
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911
Still up to the state whether any charges are filed.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)His lawyer was on CNN about an hour ago saying Zimmy had a gun with him. Its the cops fault they didn't search.
Grrrrr
David Krout
(423 posts)Searching a car wouldn't have found a gun in his holster.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)There are tens of types of holsters you can mount on your vehicle.
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RitchieRich
(292 posts)however this article paints him in a good light. The fact that his Father In Law is willing to house him and they both declined to press charges make the whole thing questionable. Please post the link to the CNN story. There is obviously a lot more to this.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)His attorney said he HAD a gun with him.
His truck was never searched and he was taken in custody. So the only place the gun could've been was in his truck.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)Compared to what? He is moving, the father-in-law does not wish to house him, as I understand it.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)RitchieRich
(292 posts)this one from the same page?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/george-zimmerman-reportedly-in-custody-for-gun-related-incident/
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)RitchieRich
(292 posts)it keeps just taking me to the home page. Thanks for responding with more info though!
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Both the Lake Mary Florida Police Chief, Steve Bracknell, and the departments spokesman Zach Hudson confirmed to ThinkProgress that George Zimmerman told officers at the scene that he did not have a gun on him during the incident. This directly contradicts what ZImmermans lawyer, Mark OMara, told CNN:
OMARA: He acted appropriately. He never took the weapon out. The only thing he really did, which is what he told the police, was on the outside of his shirt, he made sure the gun wasnt moving anywhere and didnt do anything because [Zimmerman's father-in-law] Mr. Dean was sort of coming at him, that can sort of be seen in the video.
COOPER: So he had the gun actually on his person not like, in the glove box of his car?
OMARA: Thats correct.
Bracknell acknowledged the contradiction, telling ThinkProgress Who is telling the truth? Good question. He added that OMara was on scene providing legal advice to hid [sic] client. Bracknell appeared to suggest that OMara was well-informed of the facts of the case and had little reason to invent facts like Zimmerman having a gun that would be damaging to his client.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)that he's a scum bag. I mean this article painting him in a good light tells me where your heart lies.
RitchieRich
(292 posts)didn't think it was necessary. I thought it was obvious that the article was taking it easy on him. My first thought was that the piece had a right slant, hence the request for more information.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)who knows who did what sort of despicable thing in their past and I am sure Zimmy's got all the fucking gun nut lawyers ready to go to tear anyone apart who challenges him in any way. It's always about the god damn money!!!
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)She wasn't making that up.
Guy has a history of violence.
David Krout
(423 posts)That she thought he had a broken nose. Yet the article cited in this thread said the cops found no visible injuries on the father.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)....was because of George Zimmerman himself.
Penalties offset. Replay first down.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)was little more than a racist lie. too bad so many of you bought it.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)you zimpig apologists would soon start showing up spreading cream and cookies over their boy.
Rockyj
(538 posts)If he gets charged and convicted of Domestic Violence, he won't be allowed to own a gun.
Oh how I pray for poetic justice...
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...but it would be a good way to get his ass in jail where it belongs in the near future.
PEACE!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I know...I have an abusive ex-husband who lost his right to legally own a gun.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...he'd probably get a gun illegally. THAT might get his ass in jail where it belongs in the near future.
PEACE!
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...because even though he would likely carry even if not allowed to legally he would eventually find himself in trouble with the law. Then the illegal gun would be found.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)it will never happen!
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)and it sounded pretty real and very fearful how can the fucking state not charge?
wild bird
(421 posts)Most DA's won't file charges if they don't think they can win.
Supposedly there's a surveillance tape from the house that the police are looking at to see if there is evidence of domestic violence.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)Not searching the car?? I don't know what the law is, but it seems they would have the right to do so. That they didn't says they did not want to know. This sounds like typical cops who don't want to fully investigate a domestic disturbance. That seems like a failure of duty, especially if George had stayed or returned and shot someone.
marble falls
(57,097 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)everybody knows the Zimmy don't Lie!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... we are watching a severly dysfunctional marriage break up in slo mo in the public eye.
He's obviously an abusive husband, and she's obviously an abused wife -- telltale symptoms, actions and statements are all there -- it's a trailer park tragedy in the making, and had they any class or sense, they'd both STFU and get as far from the limelight as humanly possible. And get some counseling, too.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)made about this (with 10% of the proceeds going to the NRA as a charitable donation of course)
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)On tonight's episode see if George feels threatened enough by his unarmed wife to shoot her in the face
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And the phantom gun. Sounds like she too has been too involved in police training. But that doesn't mean that Zimmerman didn't try to spook her by putting his hand to his waistband, anticipating how she would react. This was obviously a he said/she said event from the start. And the fight over splitting the pots and pans is not about the pots and pans but a fight over control of the situation and goading her into calling 911 could well have been his plan to have her put in a bad light.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And police deception may be an issue. Mark O'Mara is now confirming that George Zimmerman was armed when he was at the house. Not only that but that he placed his hand on the gun to adjust its position so no phantom gun but a real one -- if this report is any more accurate than any of the other stories. Police are now conceding that he could have put the weapon back in his truck because they did not have a warrant to search the truck. Lastly, I am not sure why O'Mara would come forward with this information. Accordingly, I don't put that much stock in any of the stories being reported. Not this one and not the one linked in the top post. At least this agrees with my "spook her" speculation.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/10/2597251/did-george-zimmerman-lie-police-yesterday/
heaven05
(18,124 posts)to 'probable cause'?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)????? ex-wife calling about a gun. If zpig was black, he would have been spreadeagled on the ground, ransacked car, looking for the weapon. No biggie I knew your crowd would be around soon.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)with murder one.
If the altercation took place outside of the truck, on the grounds or in the house, the police do not have probable cause to search the vehicle, absent a stated connection to the vehicle. But nothing prevents the cops from asking to search. If they didn't, I would say that's deliberate malfeasance on the part of the cops.
7962
(11,841 posts)at least to that particular poster. I've been called every name in the book for simply quoting the law as you did. Back during the trial. Facts don't matter.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)deliberate malfeasance. Well I got that much of a concession. Zimpig should go down!
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Scairp
(2,749 posts)He has quit this particular client as of very, very recently. Not sure what took him so long.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)If not now then soon.
perdita9
(1,144 posts)He's been arrested a number of different times (domestic violence, shooting an unarmed teen), but they always turn him loose.
Color me suspicious.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Nine
(1,741 posts)He DID have a gun and the father DID have a visible injury.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
The question of the gun became confused later when police told reporters there was no gun involved, but George Zimmerman's attorney told CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that he believed his client had a firearm on him.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/09/09/new-photos-shellie-zimmermans-ipad-fathers-nose
I, too, wonder what Zimmerman has on the cops that they keep lying for him.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)of racists, and now misogynists.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Yes indeed.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)By pointing out that Shellie Zimmerman was convicted of perjury so she shouldn't be believed, never mind that she was pressured into lying based on the coded conversations the two had while Zimmerman was in jail awaiting his bond hearing.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)to make life hell for them and drain them dry of assets.
Jacoby365
(451 posts)Zimmerman's wife never said she was threatened at gunpoint, only that George had his hand on his gun. Zimmerman's lawyer said that he did, in fact, have a gun with him.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)WAS IN HIS CAR PATTING HIS GUN AND SAYING " JUST COME CLOSER" so why the hell do all these cops just automatically believe him? Florida law says arrest in domestic cases rather wife presses charges or not. What makes him so special?
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)no1uno
(55 posts)Well hell yeah George Z had a gun. Is he ever without one? Big man, small penis.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)see the problem here. Zimmypig cleared the streets of one young unarmed black male and was protected by the florida justice system and now he is still being protected despite discrepancies coming from lawyer, police, shellie Z. Just keep on letting this trash walk the streets with a gun, we'll be seeing more tragedy soon. he's a white (looking)male in florida with all the rights inherent in that gender and skin color. Give me a fucking break. I expected no other outcome.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Response to 7962 (Original post)
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Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)They knew this before she could speak?
Thanks for your insight.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)and find OJ's "real killer."
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Old lady: Officer, officer! Could you please get my kittycat out of the tree?
Tackleberry: No problem, ma'am. *Pulls out gun*
Old lady: No, no!
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)from the scene of a crime thinking the cops didn't have enough to arrest them.
They were wrong.
I want to see what comes off the Ipad.