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If it's one thing they can agree on is they "hate" the president, and they will do anything to stop Obama care because they know that once it's in place, the people of this country are going to like it, and that just won't do for the GOP. As posted below, the GOP also knows Obamacare will lead to a better chance of seeing a real universal health care program for the country, and we know that is not something their rich backers want to see.

it could very well be the beginning of the end of republican party as a major player in US politics.

why the GOP finds millions of Americans getting access to health care coverage more offensive than say, shoveling trillions of dollars into destroying, occupying, and "rebuilding" Iraq and sending thousands of American troops to be maimed and killed all the while accomplishing absolutely nothing other than the removal of a single tinpot dictator and his degraded regime. I won't even mention the irony of US taxpayers footing the bill to ensure that all Iraqis got healthcare guaranteed to them while Bush was reminding us that all Americans have access to emergency rooms.

because I found that when go into too much detail, my posts gets ripped apart by some other DU'rs. Thin skinned, I guess it's called.
....so, THANKS!

Is start recruiting the far left to assist them.

Me? Obamacare is a good start. And if we hold the line -

It becomes like Bush's Tax Cuts for the Rich . . . it will never go away.

But - we can make it better.

Hold the line President Obama - I know a lot of folks who voted for you think you just suuuuuuuuuuck - but me? I think you are laying the foundation to completely undo everything that has happened in this country from 1980 to January 2009. Death of the Neocon by a thousand cuts.

I couldn't agree more. Obamacare is the foundation to build a universal health care system, and like you said, the GOP knows that and that is why they are doing everything they can to stop it. We can't let that happen.

I freely acknowledge that Obamacare contains some real advances in the public interest (dependent coverage to 26, no pre-existing conditions, a lot more people covered than in the past, etc.), but I do have trouble seeing how it doesn't really serve to entrench the insurance companies, whom I see as parasites that serve to drive up the overall cost of health care while unduly restricting benefits.

I do and I've already seen a huge difference in the way the insurance companies treat claims. I also got a refund from them due to ACA.

I agree that ACA worked with insurance companies, but they did not come out emboldened from their previous position- they are less able to screw over the consumer and held to some standards now. In the past, they would approve an expensive test with pre-authorization and then just not pay for it. Deny care if you got cancer even though it is supposed to be covered. Etc.

Now I'm on Medicare with a ($1000/mo) supplemental policy. I'm pretty much aware of how things used to be, but my current practice is forensic rather than in the health care arena. I have, however, sat through some workshops on how ACA changes things for providers, and it looks like there will be some pretty vast changes that will pretty much eliminate small and solo providers for a variety of reasons.

Might want to do some shopping around.

It covers both my wife & me. Before I got onto MC, it was costing $1800/mo, which was larger by quite a bit than my retirement check. It is a pretty good plan, though.

All across the nation companies are quietly letting full-time personnel go and hiring part time low wage workers.
My guess is the National Chamber of Commerce is the responsible group for spreading the strategy of fail.
But who is the mastermind?
My first instinct would be to check the 2012 guest list of Aspen Convention for the perpetraitor(misspelled on purpose).

[link:http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/09/koch-brothers-million-dollar-donor-club|

Besides, how can they override what would essentially be a Senate veto?


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Boehner talks about wanting the Democrats to "own" Obamacare even though it already "owns" it by having previously voted for it and/or refusing to repeal it. This is strictly a "face-saving" measure designed to placate the teabaggers (who, by the way, are NOT happy with it)

This is news to who?

I say, go for it, baggers!

That contains sequester language whether it has defund Obamacare included or not.