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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:34 AM Sep 2013

Costa Concordia salvage under way

Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2013, 06:18 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: BBC





One of the largest and most daunting salvage operations ever undertaken is under way with an attempt to pull the shipwrecked Costa Concordia upright.

The operation was delayed for three hours because of an overnight storm, but began at 09:00 local time (07:00 GMT).

Righting the ship is expected to take up to 12 hours.

Engineers have never tried to lift such a huge ship so close to land. Thirty-two people died when it hit rocks.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24104741



Direct webcam link in real time:
http://www.giglionews.it/2010022440919/webcam/isola-del-giglio/webcam-giglio-porto-panoramica.html



The Costa Concordia is TWICE as heavy as the Titanic and they have to roll her over onto her keel.

There are some pretty crack engineers in Italy. They're really good at enormous operations like this.
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Costa Concordia salvage under way (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 OP
To see the Costa Concordia wreck, go to maps.google.com, get in satellite view if not already ... progree Sep 2013 #1
Good idea! Thanks for the tip. I'd forgotten about Google Maps... Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #4
Thanks for posting. Sherman A1 Sep 2013 #2
My pleasure...wish I could be there to watch in real time! Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #5
seems like a waste quadrature Sep 2013 #3
Sounds like they intend to refloat her. She may well sail Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #6
Sadly, she's heading for the scrapper... Cooley Hurd Sep 2013 #8
Is she? I suppose she's been lying sideways in seawater for too long... Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #18
Ships are very rarely recovered after that kind of wipeout Posteritatis Sep 2013 #31
Uhh, low-income housing? I can't tell if you're kidding or nuts. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #11
The ocean would have pounded her to pieces, causing an environmental disaster. nt hack89 Sep 2013 #15
Webcam on Concordia - real time: Cooley Hurd Sep 2013 #7
thanks for the webcam link! cool to watch! Sunlei Sep 2013 #10
Thanks for the link madokie Sep 2013 #12
Look at the environmental care taken with this project Iterate Sep 2013 #13
Another great link. Well found, Iterate! Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #17
Great site. Thanks for the link, CH! Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #16
all the other cruise ships can't wait to get that scenic coastal view gone. Sunlei Sep 2013 #9
Yeah, hardly an advertisement for a peaceful, relaxing Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #19
The circumstances of this shipwreck seemed really odd until I spoke to a friend who grew up there Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #14
Hum, drug-running on the ship's maiden voyage, when she was Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #20
ship's maiden voyage? Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #21
I believe she'd changed cruise companies and been recently refitted--but I could be wrong... Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #22
Same general owner since 2005. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #30
That's the much more likely outcome; god knows it happened enough Posteritatis Sep 2013 #29
How's it going? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #23
She's at about 45° from the vertical now. They're working Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #24
pretty cool gopiscrap Sep 2013 #25
Company local to me did the foundation drilling intaglio Sep 2013 #26
So, it's a Europe-wide effort. I like that... Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #27
Google Maps satellite view of it. drm604 Sep 2013 #28

progree

(10,909 posts)
1. To see the Costa Concordia wreck, go to maps.google.com, get in satellite view if not already ...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:07 AM
Sep 2013

To see the Costa Concordia wreck, go to maps.google.com,
put the location as: giglio island, italy

If not in satellite view, get in satellite view.

Now look at the east coast of the island -- midway between the north and south ends of the island -- you will see Giglio Porto. That's where it's at. Now zoom in on Giglio Porto.

There is that dashed line labeled Giglio - Porto St Stefano. Well the Costa Contra is about 1000 feet north of that dashed line. And about 50 feet from the coast (the map legend thingy that shows distances is at the lower left). As you zoom in, you can clearly see all the windows ... err portholes and the ship laying on its side.

Sorry, no "street view"

[font color = red]On Edit[/font] - I said "As you zoom in, you can clearly see all the windows ... err portholes and the ship laying on its side.". Well duh on me. You can't see *ALL* the windows ... err portholes -- on the entire ship -- more than half of them are under water and/or on the side of the ship not facing upward.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Sounds like they intend to refloat her. She may well sail
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:32 AM
Sep 2013

the seven seas once again! Much more beautiful right side up!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. Is she? I suppose she's been lying sideways in seawater for too long...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:33 AM
Sep 2013

All of her innards must be corroded beyond recouping, not to mention her electronic circuitry.

What a monumental waste--all because of the big-headed captain showing off for his passengers.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
31. Ships are very rarely recovered after that kind of wipeout
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 06:23 PM
Sep 2013

If she settled on an even keel she probably would have been recoverable; there were liners during the Second World War that were sunk in 1940 and put back into service after the defeat of Germany, mainly because they sank in the "right" way.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
12. Thanks for the link
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 07:37 AM
Sep 2013

I've been looking for a link so I could watch this operation for days now. Being an old 'work with my hands' kind of guy I'd like to watch them do this

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
13. Look at the environmental care taken with this project
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:10 AM
Sep 2013

The project is described here:
http://www.theparbucklingproject.com/page.php?page=progetto

Follow the links to see what has been done. Remarkable engineering, but more impressive is the contrast to other disasters: professionals from all over the world doing the salvage/recovery, insurance companies paying the tab, government in charge of the overall operation and prosecution of the negligent.

Then compare it to the Gulf blowout, Fukushima, or the Exxon Valdez. It's not perfect, but not even close to those. In fact, it may be the best handled of any environmental disaster.

Alternate live sources:
http://media.theage.com.au/national/selections/livestream-costa-concordia-salvage-4751321.html
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Raising_the_Costa_Concordia

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
17. Another great link. Well found, Iterate!
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:27 AM
Sep 2013

Like I said in the OP, Italians take a backseat to nobody in the engineering department. After all, they are the proud descendants of the Roman Army Engineering Corps.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
14. The circumstances of this shipwreck seemed really odd until I spoke to a friend who grew up there
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:31 AM
Sep 2013

The reason certain cruise ships come so close to the coast line in that particular location is to drop off bundles of drugs. He said it's common knowledge in that area and local law enforcement is part of the operation. That's why the captain was acting so weird after the incident, he figured he would be taken care and cleared of culpability since he was just doing what he was instructed to do. and he probably would have been taken care of if the media didn't expose his behavior. It's not like he's sitting in a prison cell awaiting trial. He's kicking back at home with his wife in the seaside town of Meta di Sorrento, near Naples, awaiting a trail that may never happen.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
20. Hum, drug-running on the ship's maiden voyage, when she was
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:42 AM
Sep 2013

right in the media's sights?
I rather think it was a hot-shot, top-gun mentality that led the captain to buzz the coastline to impress his passengers.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
21. ship's maiden voyage?
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:49 AM
Sep 2013

I'm sure I follow you. The Costa Concordia was in service for six years before this incident.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
29. That's the much more likely outcome; god knows it happened enough
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 06:18 PM
Sep 2013

I'm working at a museum right now in the research department; we spent a few months going through a frighteningly exhaustive list of ships which carried emigrants to this city and their histories. The number of them that were lost in astonishingly stupid ways beggars the imagination.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
24. She's at about 45° from the vertical now. They're working
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:58 PM
Sep 2013

under floodlights with the black Mediterranean beyond.

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